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Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 06:56
is your name lined up for next assessment??????
if yes when it is........????
as i hve not received any confirmation mail yet......:ugh:

vmendes
15th Sep 2011, 07:13
what FL should you fly in case of unlawful interference?

AVIATROZ
15th Sep 2011, 07:16
can some one who has already given indigo exam before ,plz advice the level of numericals questions in the exam..............the question bank of indigo only contain theoretical question...................so plz also advice the percentage of numerical question in this exam..as well............
thanks

vmendes
15th Sep 2011, 07:26
@aviatroz i gave the exam in june 2010.The numericals are fairly straightforward-direct formula substitution and there were not more than 5-6 numericals in the whole paper.Human performance was a very high level,arnd 20 q's

VictorFoxtrot
15th Sep 2011, 07:39
VOR cone of confusion...
Could anyone here please shed some light on how to go about these type of questions

Q)A/c flying at 20000ft enters cone of confusion of ICAO maintained VOR.
What is the diameter of the cone of confusion?
all sin cos tan values are given....


Also a few q's which i could get ans to from the Q bank are as follows:-

1)a/c with 2 static ports,one blocked,slips towards the blocked one..what will happen? overread,underead.

2)How to plot BTP on Ploar stereographic chart?? i mean whats the diff.
between it and mercator/lamberts?

3)What is hysterisis error of altimeter?

skybuster7
15th Sep 2011, 08:37
1) cone of confusion for vor when directly overhead vor; assuming this

tan theta = opposite side (radius) / adajacent side(height)

here theta=50 deg and adajacent side = 20000ft we can get it in nm by dividing it by 6080=3.3nm

therefore oppositeside(radius)=3.3 ^ tan50 =3.93nm

therefore diameter=2^r=2^3.93=7.86nm

makes more sense when u see the actual picture



1)a/c with 2 static ports,one blocked,slips towards the blocked one..what will happen? overread,underead.
ans- overreads

not sure about the 2one

but 3)
hystersis error is lag error in altimeter

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 09:53
are you giving the upcoming september attempt?

Aviator_Prat
15th Sep 2011, 10:05
Friction Less Gyro @ 30 N => ER Drift = 15 Sin30 =7.5 degs/hr (Dec)
I.e Lat Nut Correction at 30 N = 7.5 degs/hr (Inc)
@ 60 N ER Drift => 15 Sin60 = 12.99 degs/hr (Dec)
@ 60 N Westerly Hdg at 545 Kts => Transport Wander = (545/60)X(Tan 60)
= 15.7 Degs/Hr (Inc) [Because we are on a westerly hdg]

Hourly Drift at 60 N on a westerly heading at 545 Kts is
= 7.5 (Inc) -12.99 (Dec) + 15.7 (Inc) = 10.21 degs/Hr (INC)
After 80 Mins = 10.21X(80/60)= 13.61 Degs/80 mins

DI Reading after 80 mins = 270+13.61=283.61

Could someone be kind and share the question bank @ [email protected]??

Thanks

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 10:10
hey everyone......just talked to sandra.......she said they have shortlisted the candidates for this attempt......we will be considered for the next attempt....:ugh:

Jet Blast 007
15th Sep 2011, 10:26
Did she tell you when will the next attempt will b held?? Nd on what basis did they shortlist candidates??:ugh::{

hawaijahaj
15th Sep 2011, 10:29
Heyy flybi ... Can you give me sandra's number?
Thanx in advance.

juliet.alpha.yankee
15th Sep 2011, 10:38
@Flybi...Although they have shortlisted candidates...have they sent out the mail regarding their hall tickets?????

This sounds strange bcos CAE people never do so (that they wil consider ppl for next attempt...)...

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 10:51
@hawaijahaj check your PM



and it is confirmed no reconfirmation mails.......:ugh:
even i asked her about the next attempt, she did'nt confirmed any dates but said we will receive the application letters whenever they will conduct the exam....

VictorFoxtrot
15th Sep 2011, 11:53
@skybuster
Thanx for the reply..
I could not understand how you got the angle as 50 degrees?

aviator_0088
15th Sep 2011, 12:03
This is totally bizarre! How can they call some people and ignore the others? And the next attempt itself is not confirmed.

echo.mike.india
15th Sep 2011, 12:12
@Flybi
check your pm please
thanks

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 12:19
check your PM......:)

mike_sierra
15th Sep 2011, 12:28
anyone with the 2nd confirmation yet?

:confused:

flight517
15th Sep 2011, 12:40
looks like someone is trying to discourage others from studying coz he/she does not want to put in an effort like some others who are seriously trying to study.....for every one else- guys n gals keep ur fingers crossed n keep on studying, most of you will get the email....the wait is killing me too

3greens 1inthemirror
15th Sep 2011, 12:43
check your pm plz

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 12:58
i am praying that whatever i heard from sandra should go wrong........and get the second confirmation mail.....but the truth is truth.....u have to face it and prepare yourself for the next attempt......i m just praying for the next attempt to be in october......i m not misleading and discouraging anyone......just thinking and making others to think positive.......:)

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 13:27
its upon u .......if u wanna believe it, then believe it :)

pilot in progress
15th Sep 2011, 13:44
Dear Candidate,


You have been shortlisted for the upcoming exam in Sept 2011. In case of a no show please be advised that you will not be called for the test for a period of 3 months. To avoid depriving some other deserving candidate from appearing you are requested to kindly keep your appointment for this test by sending a confirmation email to Capt Upendranath at [email protected] latest by 15th Sept 2011.Once he gets a confirmation from your end, you will be issued the hall ticket by Capt Upendranath with the test date and venue details.

this is the confirmation mail guys...

pilot in progress
15th Sep 2011, 13:47
and yes i got this mail yesterday morning...but guys dont loose hope may be u will also get it.... my fingers are crossed for ma mates too...best of luck...

on_demand
15th Sep 2011, 13:58
@ victorfoxtrot : ICAO maintained Vor provide coverage upto a minimum elevation angle of 40 degrees.. So using basic trignometry the cone of ambiguity will be having an angle of 50 (90-40)degrees from the vertical.. I hope that helps..

hifi
15th Sep 2011, 14:09
I call bluff on this one guys. The guys at CAE probably haven't sent an confirmation email yet. There is no solid repost of an confirmation email so far.

on_demand
15th Sep 2011, 14:44
Looks like a bluff to me as well (too much discrepancy in the mail posted before nd now, few claim parul sent it, few radhika and there are few who swear Ms.'Sandra Pinto'!! is the one looking into the matter)..! Dunno what these guys are getting out of it but whatever it is I just hope its making them happy atleast! Checked with like dozens of friends who have appeared previously for Indigo attempts and all of them say that the final call comes as late as couple of days before the exam.. So I believe all these 're confirmation' mails are concocted.. Its not disheartening at all as attempted, its just making us realize how important appearing in this exam is for us!

juliet.alpha.yankee
15th Sep 2011, 14:53
We can not blame such people as well. Reason being "This is a rumour network"...However, one should understand the criticality of the situation. One is going to pass the exam because he/she STUDIED and not because others DID NOT...

:)

GunZ
15th Sep 2011, 15:01
yeah i too have checked with my friends.....nobody has received any mail as of now!!!!

mike_sierra
15th Sep 2011, 15:10
@pilot in progress
Dear Candidate,


You have been shortlisted for the upcoming exam in Sept 2011. In case of a no show please be advised that you will not be called for the test for a period of 3 months. To avoid depriving some other deserving candidate from appearing you are requested to kindly keep your appointment for this test by sending a confirmation email to Capt Upendranath at [email protected] latest by 15th Sept 2011.Once he gets a confirmation from your end, you will be issued the hall ticket by Capt Upendranath with the test date and venue details.

this is the confirmation mail guys...
This is NOT what you call a confirmation..it must include the date, time, and venue for the examination..

good luck for all the guys waiting on one!

Flybi
15th Sep 2011, 15:21
please check you pm

skybuster7
15th Sep 2011, 15:21
The coverage of VOR permits satisfactory operation which has minimum elevation angle of 40 degree from ground so if we assume a VOR and its cone the angle which is made is 90deg-40deg=50deg if the a/c was overhead VOR

I wish i could explain u by drawing the whole picture; hope it helps

aviatepilot
15th Sep 2011, 15:22
confirmation mails wud be sent by tommorrow before 6:30 pm

Thnk beynd Glass wal
15th Sep 2011, 15:28
hi all,
I hv also recieved a mail Frm ms sandra but not yet
Hall ticket Frm Capt upendranath.
my frnds hv who r appearing 2nd time hv Nt recieved tha
I hv applied first time for indigo may b that's why
And I hope may b everybdy will get mail jst couple of days b4..

It was Jst to inform everybdy that's it's nt fake abt this email
Thing

alonelyaviator
15th Sep 2011, 16:38
This is true that no more calls for this attempt for sure..... :ugh:
I m the one who is facing this second time...:{
Hard to digest that fully prepared bt nt getting chance....
Anyways best of luck for those guys who are appearing....:)

vmendes
15th Sep 2011, 17:25
No one is telling you not to study,they are just sharing info which i can confirm is true.My friends in delhi have got a call for the exam so study hard for the next attempt

pilot in progress
15th Sep 2011, 18:53
@mike_sierra:-This is NOT what you call a confirmation..it must include the date, time, and venue for the examination..

You have been shortlisted for the upcoming exam in Sept 2011..In case of a no show please be advised that you will not be called for the test for a period of 3 months. To avoid depriving some other deserving candidate from appearing you are requested to kindly keep your appointment for this test by sending a confirmation email to Capt Upendranath at [email protected] latest by 15th Sept 2011.Once he gets a confirmation from your end, you will be issued the hall ticket by Capt Upendranath with the test date and venue details.

NO offence buddy:-may be my english is not up to the mark as yours or others in this forum...but wat i understood from this mail was they have shortlisted me and now dey need me to send a confirmation letter to capt. Upendranath so (Once he gets a confirmation from my end, i will be issued the hall ticket by Capt Upendranath with the test date and venue details.

and yes i am not saying anybody to stop studying...i have no profit or neither do ane1 who has posted this mail here...all the fellow pilots who have been checking this forum and are givng feedbacks have asked to post the mail if somebody gets it...nobody is fool here if i say dont study human performance would u not study it...so please guyd keep on studying i rilli pray n hope that all guys get the tickets

cheers

pilot in progress
15th Sep 2011, 19:35
Guys leaving behind everything about the mails n all....lets talk about problems..

Q1)at 0900 relative bearing of NDB is 045 and at 0910hrs bearing is 090...if ground speed is 150 kts.. wat is the distance from aircraft to the beacon?

Q2)what is the initial great circle direction from 45N 14'12W to 45N 12'48E?

Q3)Range of NDB at 10kw;(wat is the formula to calculate it...)
a)500nm b)100nm c)1000nm d)50 nm

Q4)assuming the maximum error in vor of +/-5.5degrees,what is the maximum distance apart the beacons can be situated on the centreline of the uk airway in order that an aircraft can guarantee remaining within the airway boundary...
a)54 nm b)109 nm c)66nm d)132 nm

Q5)an aircraft is homing towards VOR which marks the centreline of the airway.the beacon is 100 nm distant. if the pilot had the airway qdm set on the OBS what deflection of the deviation indicator would be given if the aircraft was on the boundary of the airway?(1 dot equals 2 degrees)
a)3 dots b)2 dots c)2.5 dots d)1.5 dots

6)during deceleration following a landing in northerly direction the magnetic compass will indicate:
a)an apparent turn to west
b)a heading fluctuating about about 360
c)no apparent turn
d)an apparent turn to east

7)what is the chart length between 180E and 180W on same latitude?

beinghuman
16th Sep 2011, 05:00
So I haven't received the email about being shortlisted as well. So I assume, my chances of giving this attempt is over. (Sigh) Next attempt now :uhoh:

starboard737
16th Sep 2011, 05:32
i havent received any mail from them yet regarding shortlisted candidates.:uhoh:
a friend of mine did.
any idea when the next attempt is?? :confused:

Flybi
16th Sep 2011, 05:42
hey friends...hope so that the next attempt will be conducted soon.......we can only pray ...........:uhoh:

pilot in progress
16th Sep 2011, 05:55
is anybody there who can help me with the questions i posted:-

and yes as my sources claim next attempt is in october...cheers

Flybi
16th Sep 2011, 06:55
check your PM

flyme01
16th Sep 2011, 07:17
Ans. 01) Here you cant apply 1:60 Rule because 1:60 rule is valid when bearing change angle is _< 20 degress..in this case the bearing change is 45 degress..therefore, the time of bearing change is equal to the time to go to the station..ground speed is 150kts..time is 10 minutes..(from 0900 to 0910)
simple formula..
D= SxT
D to go to the station= 150x(10/60)
D to go to the station=25NM.

Ans. 02) I think the great circle direction is East..(guys correct me if i am wrong).

Ans. 03) i want to ask you is it over land or over water?

Ans. 06)option c

Ans. 07) In this case..there is nothing like 180E or 180W..it is 180E/W..its anti-meridian..there is no distance travelled..Earth distance is therefore ZERO..if Earth distance is ZERO..Scale factor will be infinity..Either the Chart length cant be found or Chart Length is ZERO because Earth Distance is also ZERO..

S.F.= C.L./E.D.
C.L.= S.F.x E.D.
C.L.= infinity x ZERO
C.L.= ZERO

(guys if i am wrong please correct me)

sorry i dont know the answers for question 4 and 5..

skybuster7
16th Sep 2011, 07:36
Q 4) ans is B 109nm

Q5) ans is C 2.5 dots bcoz an airway is 5deg from the airway centerline on both the sides and since its on airway boundary it will show 2.5 dots

Thnk beynd Glass wal
16th Sep 2011, 07:40
Ques 4
5.5 = (5*60)/x
Find x
X comes out to b 54.5
But at reaching mid way we change over
To 2nd vor located at destination
So ans is 109( double of 54.5)

Ques 5
Airway is 5nm either side of centre line
Now Frm 1 in 60 rule
X = (5*60)/100
x=3 deg

I.e 1.5 dots

flyme01
16th Sep 2011, 07:54
what is 5*60?i am not able to figure out..

guys i am wondering why very few people have got the second email from indigo?why not everyone who got the first email for september 2011 exam?does that mean we all will be called for October attempt?if yes, then people who will get first email for October attempt will be called for next attempt lets say November or whenever they will conduct the exam?

i believe in this case it is not managed properly for indigo..no offense..but this way it will only delay the process..why i am saying this because i am not able to understand the logic behind this..that only few people have got the second email not everyone..what is the logic behind this?

We are not even sure if we will be called for the next attempt..

kettanm
16th Sep 2011, 08:04
hello buddy , would you be kind enough to email me the indigo question bank.. i do not have access to any of questions discussed here.. please share the bank with me.. send it at , [email protected]
thank you in advance. god bless you.

flight517
16th Sep 2011, 08:21
Range of NDB at 10kw;(wat is the formula to calculate it...)
a)500nm b)100nm c)1000nm d)50 nm

range of ndb over water(nm)=3xsqroot(power in watts)
range of ndb over land(nm)=2xsqroot(power in watts)
if we use these formulas the answers are 200nm and 300nm respectively....and none of these are given in the options.........guys please let me know if am going wrong somewhere or if there is a different formula for it...thanks in advance

AVIATROZ
16th Sep 2011, 08:32
Q.An a/c initiate a rate one turn at a Tas of 270kts.how far will it have travelled after 25 sec.

Ans--1.96nm

flyingmachine3
16th Sep 2011, 08:46
Q.An a/c initiate a rate one turn at a Tas of 270kts.how far will it have travelled after 25 sec.

Ans--1.96nm

TAS X TIME
270*25SEC
1.87 NM
APPROX
1.96NM

beinghuman
16th Sep 2011, 08:48
Indigo basically takes about 100 Pilots per batch. So 2 days, at a max 200 Pilots. I'm sure they sent emails to more than 200. But its difficult to comprehend how they're planning to go about with their short listing. Are they giving chance to only freshers first and then to Pilots who are attempting it the second time ?

We could argue that Indigo should recruit the way Jet does, but on the other hand, Indigo gives more chances to others who are momentarily not prepared at the time of exams by recruiting every other month.

Did they sent confirmation to Pilots who are attempting the written second time ?

bombayhues
16th Sep 2011, 09:25
@beinghuman: Where do you get such numbers (100 per batch) from? The intake is based solely on the number of people making the cutoff of 70%. The pass percentage used to be around 10% earlier and has increased only recently

pilot in progress
16th Sep 2011, 09:44
thanks to all my friends for helping:-


Q2)what is the initial great circle direction from 45N 14'12W to 45N 12'48E?
a)270M
b)080.4T
c)086.5T(ans)
d)090M

Q3)what is the final position after the following rhumb lines tracks and ditanceshave been followed from position 60'00N 030'00W
south for 3600nm
east for 3600nm
north for 3600nm
west for 3600nm

the final position of aircraft is
a)59'N 90'W
b)60'N 90'W
c)60'N 30'E
d)59'N 60'W

Q4)on the 27th feb at 52'S 40'E the sunrise is at 243 UTC on the same day at 52'S 35'W the sunrise is at:
a)0243 UTC
B)0523 UTC
C)0743 UTC
D)2143 UTC

errordetector
16th Sep 2011, 10:13
2) Convergency is Dlong X Sin mean lat
= (14 '12' + 12*48*) X Sin 45'
= 27' X Sin 45'
=19'5'30.78
Conversion angle= 1/2 X Convergency
= 19'5' / 2
= 9'32' 45.39
Rhumb line track is 090. The great circle track is 090 - 9'32' 45.39 the answer should be 80' 27' which is = 80.4

The next two questions are simple calculations of the distance along a latitude and longitude using Dlong cos lat along a latitude and Dlat along a longitude.

Hope you got it. :ok:

9FLYJET9
16th Sep 2011, 10:14
Anyone received the final call letter with the date, venue and roll number details ?

Flybi
16th Sep 2011, 10:53
check your PM

beinghuman
16th Sep 2011, 11:44
Na, you got me wrong. I was referring to Pilots appearing for the exam per batch.

flyme01
16th Sep 2011, 12:18
Ans. 03) i think there is some printing error..the a/c is moving 60 degree(3600NM) in south east north and west direction..which will make the a/c to reach back to its starting position..
it has to be on 60*N because in this latitude is not changing..therefore we ommit other two options..it cant be in east because a/c first crosse PM and returns back while crossing PM which makes it to come back in Westerly heading..

the answer should be 60*N and 30*W..i think option c has some printing error it has to be 60*N 30*W and NOT 60*N 30*E..

Ans. 04) correct answer is option b..the sun will rise 5hrs late..the second day..because earth is roatating from west to east direction..therefore sun will rise first in east direction and then in west..
therefore, the answer is 0543..

bombayhues
16th Sep 2011, 13:01
@beinghuman: Apologies buddy. Got you wrong there

skybuster7
16th Sep 2011, 13:03
Has anyone got their hall tickets or roll number; date and venue for the examination...... Kindly reply , it would be a help

Flybi
16th Sep 2011, 13:17
does anyone know when will be the next attempt........:ugh:

panxe
16th Sep 2011, 14:28
Some one please confirm about the call letters please.
Thank you

hawaijahaj
16th Sep 2011, 15:03
Seems like a lot of guys including me have not received a confirmation mail.
Better luck next time.
:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Flybi
16th Sep 2011, 15:23
check your PM

AVIATROZ
16th Sep 2011, 17:36
Q. you intend to overfly a mountain ridge at an altitude of 15000ft AMsL.The average air temp i s 15degree lover than IsA.the sealevel pressure 1003Hpa.which altimeter indication is needed?

Ans--16170ft...............plz explain hw to solve this problem
thanks

Thnk beynd Glass wal
16th Sep 2011, 17:54
Q3)what is the final position after the following rhumb lines tracks and ditanceshave been followed from position 60'00N 030'00W
south for 3600nm
east for 3600nm
north for 3600nm
west for 3600nm

the final position of aircraft is
a)59'N 90'W
b)60'N 90'W
c)60'N 30'E
d)59'N 60'W

ans
in south it will travel 60 and reach equator
on equator it willl travel 60 to reach 00N 30 E
then travel north 60 deg(3600nm) to reach 60N 30E
and will travel west 3600nm equal to 120deg at 60Lat
and will reach 60N 90W

pilot in progress
16th Sep 2011, 18:13
Ans. 04) correct answer is option b..the sun will rise 5hrs late..the second day..because earth is roatating from west to east direction..therefore sun will rise first in east direction and then in west..
therefore, the answer is 0543..

how did we get 5 hrs

Jibu
16th Sep 2011, 18:26
Not received any second mail.
I am worried and becoming patienceless

alonelyaviator
16th Sep 2011, 18:41
Dear Friends dont worry there will be exam in october for sure...come to know from very reliable source frm 6E....So, Dont worry and study and hope that u willget call for next exambecause this is now the biggest hurdle in ur journey to LOI....even I am so well prepared for the exam(acco. to me)...but not getting the chance to give exam..in may got the first mail...in june got th first mail..in july got the first mail bt no confirmation...and now this time got mail then a call from Ms. Parul bt no confirmtion mail....hope will get next time. and good luck to u all...:)

AVIATROZ
16th Sep 2011, 19:44
Q. you intend to overfly a mountain ridge at an altitude of 15000ft AMsL.The average air temp i s 15degree lover than IsA.the sealevel pressure 1003Hpa.which altimeter indication is needed?

Ans--16170ft...............please explain hw to solve this problem
thanks


please some one guide in solving this problem

pilot in progress
16th Sep 2011, 22:36
Hi everyone,

could anybody please help me with a couple of questions. Cant figure them out!!

1. The total length of the 53° N parallels of latitude on a direct Mercator chart is 133 cm. What is the approximate scale of the chart at latitude 30° S?

A) 1 : 25 000 000



2. On a Direct Mercator chart at latitude of 45° N, a certain length represents a distance of 90 NM on the earth. The same length on the chart will represent on the earth, at latitude 30° N, a distance of:

A) 110 NM.



Really appreciate for time and help..thankyou

pilot in progress
16th Sep 2011, 22:42
Q) apparent wander at 45N is:

Flybi
17th Sep 2011, 05:26
how did u applied for the written?
only through cae website or by mailing the hr's also?

sharma1prash
17th Sep 2011, 05:44
hey
so thats how it works? first the candidate gets a mail from Radhika/Parul and you reply with the details.Till here i have the same story.Afterwards i have not got any kind of correspondence from CAE/Indigo for the assessment on 21st/22nd.so i guess that is not good?

SaabCapt
17th Sep 2011, 06:07
What is the UTC time of sunrise in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (49N 123 30 W) on the 6th December?
A)1552 UTC B)0724 UTC C)0738 UTC D)2324 UTC



Help! ..?

mike_sierra
17th Sep 2011, 06:09
1. The total length of the 53° N parallels of latitude on a direct Mercator chart is 133 cm. What is the approximate scale of the chart at latitude 30° S?

A) 1 : 25 000 000

For a Mercator, Scale at lat = Scale at equator * sec lat
in other words,
Denominator A/Denominator B = cos A/cos B = Earth dist A/Earth dist B

length of 53deg parallel is 360*60*cos 53=13000nm. Scale at 53 is 1:18112720
18112720/Denominator B = cos 53/cos 30
Denominator B =26,065,264
i.e. Scale at 30deg S is 1:26,065,264 (1:25,000,000 is the closest i suppose)

2. On a Direct Mercator chart at latitude of 45° N, a certain length represents a distance of 90 NM on the earth. The same length on the chart will represent on the earth, at latitude 30° N, a distance of:

A) 110 NM.

You could solve this using the same method.

mike_sierra
17th Sep 2011, 06:11
Q) apparent wander at 45N is:

Apparent Wander = 15deg * sin lat
at 45 N, apparent wander is 15*sin 45=10.6 deg/hr DECREASING

pilot in progress
17th Sep 2011, 06:43
check you pm

9FLYJET9
17th Sep 2011, 07:58
ANYONE WITH THE FINAL CALL LETTER FOR 21st or 22nd ?

Percept
17th Sep 2011, 09:05
No Hall Ticket or Venue Details yet, i guess the exam will be delayed or we will just get a surprise email on Monday

9FLYJET9
17th Sep 2011, 09:35
@percept
LOOKS LIKE.. LETS SEE..
WHEN DID YOU SEND A REPLY TO THE SECOND MAIL ?
DO POST ONCE YOU GET THE FINAL CALL LETTER..
TC..

Percept
17th Sep 2011, 09:47
@ 9FLYJET9

I received the second email on September 14th around noon, i sent a confirmation email to Capt Upendranath immediately.

I have heard that an exam previously was delayed by a couple of days - so that is a possibility.

But then again they can always send us a Hall ticket with Venue details on Monday, so lets keep studying!

A delay is good cuz then we have more time to prepare.

Best of luck to all of us. :ok:

pilot in progress
17th Sep 2011, 10:20
check your pm

capt.neo
17th Sep 2011, 10:36
Hey guys can u help me out

Q.)an a/c is intending the track from NDB A to NDB B on a track of 050(T),heading 060(T). If the RBI shows relative bearing of A to be 180 abd relative bearing of B to be 330 then the a/c is:

1.port of track and nearer A
2.port of track and nearer B
3.starboard of track and nearer A
4.starboard of track and nearer B

Ans:4

I figured out the starboard part of the track but can't understand how the a/c is nearer to B. Can someone help me out on this...???

AVIATROZ
17th Sep 2011, 12:32
thanks bro don`t mind but i hav 1 more doubt for u


Q2.An OAT of -55degree at the 200Hpa pressure level:
A)+/-5degree IsA.
B) is low...............
{acc. to me ans should be +10degree IsA DEVIATION}
please advice regarding this problem

errordetector
17th Sep 2011, 12:38
@ AVIATROZ

True altitude = Indicated altitude + 4% of Indicated every 10 deg above ISA if ISA deviation is positive.
= Indicated altitude - 4% of Indicated every 10 deg below ISA if ISA deviation is negative.

Here 15000 is the true altitude. Temp is 15 deg lower so Indicated altitude will be higher. 4% for 10 deg so 6% for 15 deg.

6 % of 15000 is 900. So Indicated altitude is 15900.
The altimeter setting is 1003 so you will need to set 27 x10(1013-1003) = 270 feet higher.

15900 + 270 = 16170 feet which is your answer.

Hope you got it.

Percept
17th Sep 2011, 13:09
@ AVIATROZ

at 200mb pressure you are in an approximately at 38,600feet in the isothermal layer with a constant temperature of -56.5 degrees Celsius.

Since the OAT is -55, A)+/-5degree ISA should be the right answer.

AVIATROZ
17th Sep 2011, 13:20
ohhh .........so dumb of me not to think that silly think............thanks bro

a big thank to percept and error detector..........when no one replied to my problem u guys were life saver............keep it up guys keep helping each others

SaabCapt
17th Sep 2011, 13:34
On a 12% glide slope, your groundspeed is 540 knots. What is your rate of descent?
A)6550 feet/min. B)3120 feet/min. C)8740 feet/min. D)4820 feet/min.




Now how do we do this??

Percept
17th Sep 2011, 13:55
12/100 x 540 x6080/60 = 6566.4

It should be A

VictorFoxtrot
17th Sep 2011, 14:53
Q)Echoes recvd. 30 degree left of track.A/c hdg 120M.Find QTE.

aviatepilot
17th Sep 2011, 16:29
Dear Applicants,






You are invited for the CAE IndiGo assessment for A320 Type Rating programme as per the following schedule:






Date: 21 / Sept/ 2011





Reporting Time: 9:30 AM





Exam Time: 10:00AM to 12:00 Noon.





Venue: The Parkland Hotel
Kalkaji

Address: CC-30,31, Nehru Enclave,
Opposite Nehru place, Opp PARAS CINEMA.
New Delhi-110019
Phone: +91-11-40688888








Kindly carry the original and photocopy of all the documents mentioned below:
(Candidates not in possession of Original Licences & Logbook -Proof of Current Medical Certificate - Not permitted)






Photocopy of all these documents have to be submitted to us.

CV (with complete postal address),CPL License, FRTOL, RTR, last 3 pages of logbook, Medical, Passport (First & Last Page only)







Along with the above mentioned documents, please carry Admission Ticket (Printout of this e-mail) and a photo id to the examination center.


Results of the 1st stage (Aviation Knowledge Test) will be declared on the same day(SCORES WILL NOT BE DISCLOSED ). Successful Candidates will be called for the subsequent stages shortly there after, which will be held in Delhi. Date and venue details for the same will be communicated to them by email.



Please Note: Its mandatory to carry Admission Ticket and photo id to the examination center. Parents/Guardians are requested to wait outside the Premises (Examination Venue).






We look forward to meeting you!


Best Wishes



Capt Upendranath Bharati
Test Pilot
Pilot Provisioning
CAE India Pvt Ltd

juliet.alpha.yankee
17th Sep 2011, 16:43
@Aviatepilot...All the best buddy...when did you get this mail?

Flybi
17th Sep 2011, 16:52
All the best for all who are appearing in this attempt......:)

attitudeFlying
17th Sep 2011, 17:08
All the best to all appearing for the exam. :ok::ok:

aviatepilot
17th Sep 2011, 17:47
i havent got the mail yet!!!!its one of my friend who got it!!!!!!
the mail has come at 9:15pm in the nite..bt it was shot from Mr upendra's inbox at 8 in the morning

SaabCapt
17th Sep 2011, 17:56
@Percept

Thanks

aviator.hemanand
18th Sep 2011, 00:32
Dear aviate pilot I am Hemanand from Chennai. I am one of the candidates who got the shortlisted email but yet to receive the call letter. How come we haven't get anything yet. Should we show up at the venue in any case if they fail to send the hall ticket? Is there any way to contact the concerned persons? email doesn't seem to be the best option as they never revert to you back.

My last question is can you ask your friend and post here the exact email id from which the email was sent.(Because the email Ids which we send to and the email Ids they send us the letters differ) eg: [email protected] is the email we send and we get reply on [email protected]. Same is the case with Sandra. Please do respond at the earliest. Thankyou

cpt_ssg
18th Sep 2011, 00:37
the duration of examination as posted above is 2 hours,
so my question to all who have appered before is how many questions will be included in 2 hours duration of exam and does every question carry equal marks?
will appreciate for help, thankyou.

Shabez
18th Sep 2011, 03:05
any chance that the people who did not recieve the second letter might still get a call?

aviatepilot
18th Sep 2011, 03:17
[email protected]..

this is d id people r getting call 4rm

beinghuman
18th Sep 2011, 04:50
Hey guys,

I've given Indigo's written once. I recommend everyone who's attempting the paper to study Oxford ATPL's Human Performance and Limitations inside out. That carries a good 10 - 15 marks in the paper. All the best. :ok:

aviator.hemanand
18th Sep 2011, 04:52
Your response appreciated. Please kindly keep us posted if u personally do get ur hall ticket. I believe you are one of the shortlisted candidates for the Sep 2011 exam. Thanks again.

Percept
18th Sep 2011, 05:00
Is it possible to not get a hall ticket if you have got an email that you have been shortlisted? Maybe they havent started sending the hall tickets for the 22nd exam? Im just assuming,

flight517
18th Sep 2011, 07:31
has anyone received the hall ticket for 22nd???

flyme01
18th Sep 2011, 07:45
one of my friends got the hall ticket last night..in this case i am assuming we will get the tickets at any time..i think we all should just keep studying..lets keep our fingers crossed..

acepilott
18th Sep 2011, 08:00
is any of u guy who got confimation mail but not get hall ticket yet
because i m assuming guys who didn get hall ticket will be on for 22nd
n if all applicant who got confirmation also got hall ticket den there will chance
of oders for 22nd who didn even get confirmation:rolleyes:
anyways best of luck to all who r appearing:)

Percept
18th Sep 2011, 08:39
@ flyme01

Your friend who got the hall ticket last night - was it for the 21st for the 22nd?

PP351
18th Sep 2011, 08:55
@ flyme01 check your pm

Percept
18th Sep 2011, 09:46
@ PP351

check your pm

tomphunk
18th Sep 2011, 10:52
please send some question for indigo

flyme01
18th Sep 2011, 11:47
my friend got the hall ticket for 21st..i hope we all should get it by tomorrow..many friends of mine who have already appeared for the exam are telling me its possible that we can get the hall ticket even a day before..you never know..so lets keep studying what else we can do..but i just have a question what if we wont receive the hall ticket for september attempt..will be get the hall ticket for october?anybody any idea?

TUXEDO
18th Sep 2011, 13:19
Now IndiGo conducts exam every 1n1/2 months. Confirmed.
Nest attempt is Mid-November. Confirmed.
From IndiGo First Officer.
(Exam is between 12-20 November for 2-to-3 days)

Percept
18th Sep 2011, 14:50
Thanks for the info, yea it is possible that we get the email at any point. But it sucks that they are gonna do it so late. Lets hope for the best.

Thnk beynd Glass wal
18th Sep 2011, 15:33
@ to all
here i m posting some questions from the question bank
try to post the answers thanks in advance...

2.A signal is received after fading at the receiver,Which is the most likely reason a.Quadrental Error b.
Night effect c. mountainous/terrain effect d. Coastal error

3.Echoes are received 30 degree to left.A/c hdg is 120 M , Find QTE?

4.On reaching the saturation vapour pressure,
a. it will stay at the same temperature b. it will become colder
c. it will become warmer.

5.Worload is defined as-
a.90% of crew resources have been utilized b. 60% of crew resources have
been utilized c. Depends on Pilot expertise d. Availability of resources

6. When acknowledging mode and code pulse from ATC,pilot will reply by
a. Repeating both mode and code pulse b. repeat only code pulse

7.FL 150 , TAS=250 Kts , OAT= --12Degree Icing will occur-
a. Over flat terrain,away from fronts,moderate to severe Mixed Ice
b. Pushed by clouds against the mountains,moderate to severe Mixed Ice
c. Moderate to severe Rime Ice

8 A/C is going from A (QNH 1012HPa) to B (QNH 1012Hpa), the altimeter reading differs.What could be the possible reason for this?
a. Aircraft is flying over a warmer airmass
b. Flying over a colder airmass
c. Altimeter error

9.Radio altitude is shown on the EADI and changes from a digital display to a circular scale:
A) below 1000 ft AGL.
B) at 1000 ft and below AGL.
C) at 2500 ft.
D) at DH.

pilot in progress
18th Sep 2011, 17:12
one altimeter is calibrated for inst./pos. errors and other 1 is not...what happens to IAS changes..

pilot in progress
18th Sep 2011, 17:16
what happens to tas and drag when height increases...explanation required

ak129
18th Sep 2011, 17:16
hi
indicated airspeed (ias) is effectively the measure of dynamic pressure given by 1/2 * rho (air desity)*v^2 ;where v is tas.
if climb is made at constant ias then tas increases this is because in this case to maintain constant dynamic pressure(ias) as rho decreases v needs to be increased. so tas increases with heaight.

drag = coeff drag * 1/2 rho v^2 where v is tas
drag decrease with height if we are climbing at a costant tas (coz of decrease in density ) but if we are climbing at a constant ias then drag remains the same that is because dynamic pressure (1/2 rho v^2) remains constant

ecks
18th Sep 2011, 17:51
If TAS increases , the altimeter which is not corrected for position will over read .

Percept
18th Sep 2011, 22:06
Dear Applicants,

You are invited for the CAE IndiGo assessment for A320 Type Rating programme as per the following schedule:

Date: 22 / Sept/ 2011

Reporting Time: 9:30 AM

Exam Time: 10:00AM to 12:00 Noon.

Venue: The Parkland Hotel
Kalkaji

Address: CC-30,31, Nehru Enclave,
Opposite Nehru place, Opp PARAS CINEMA.
New Delhi-110019
Phone: +91-11-40688888

Kindly carry the original and photocopy of all the documents mentioned below:

(Candidates not in possession of Original Licences & Logbook -Proof of Current Medical Certificate - Not permitted)

Photocopy of all these documents have to be submitted to us.
CV (with complete postal address),CPL License, FRTOL, RTR, last 3 pages of logbook, Medical, Passport (First & Last Page only)

Along with the above mentioned documents, please carry Admission Ticket (Printout of this e-mail) and a photo id to the examination center.

Results of the 1st stage (Aviation Knowledge Test) will be declared on the same day(SCORES WILL NOT BE DISCLOSED ). Successful Candidates will be called for the subsequent stages shortly there after, which will be held in Delhi. Date and venue details for the same will be communicated to them by email.
Please Note: Its mandatory to carry Admission Ticket and photo id to the examination center. Parents/Guardians are requested to wait outside the Premises (Examination Venue).

We look forward to meeting you!
Best Wishes


Capt Upendranath Bharati
Test Pilot
Pilot Provisioning
CAE India Pvt Ltd


This email arrived at approximately 3am.

vrg380
19th Sep 2011, 05:24
Did every 1 received the call letters or there are some who sent there conformation bt didnt received hall ticket fm Mr.Upendranath????

mike_sierra
19th Sep 2011, 05:31
those who have received a confirmation, all the best!
tough luck here :ugh:

vrg380
19th Sep 2011, 06:06
Did u got short listed for sept attempt nd u sent d conformation 2 mr. Upendranath?

Uniform.
19th Sep 2011, 06:09
Even I got the 1st mail from Ms. Radhika asking to reply with details before 8th Sept but after tht no show... :ugh:
i thought all can give the exam but now it seems its on them whom to call for written. :( Hoping to get the call for next attempt.

buddyaviator
19th Sep 2011, 09:39
Hey Friends Anyone who cleared the July Exam & also Cleared the CASS & Interview has any Idea when & where are they going for Training ??
Also Please What shall we study before going for the A-320 Endorsement ??

VictorFoxtrot
19th Sep 2011, 09:54
Met charts...
could anyone please advise what type of charts do they ask and what are the questions
like?
Is it synoptic charts with station model given or what is it?

Thnk beynd Glass wal
19th Sep 2011, 11:30
@ all
Can anybdy plz post the answers

aviator_0088
19th Sep 2011, 12:56
Are people over here still getting their calls for the written? Does anyone have Capt. Upendranath's contact number? I haven't got mine as yet :ugh::ugh::ugh:

pilot in progress
19th Sep 2011, 17:00
In the northern hemisphere the wind at 2000' is 210 degrees at 60 knots. The thermal wind is 20 knots with the lowest mean temperature in the north west.. the upper level wind is:
a)210 degrees 40 knots
b)210 degrees 80 knots
c)300 degrees 40 knots
d)030 degrees 80 knots
with explanations:confused:

skybuster7
19th Sep 2011, 18:04
Answer is b)210 degrees 80 knots bcoz here in this case with the low mean temp of the air above the direction will not change from the geostrophic wind but the speed will increase (its an low pressure area) option a) and c) dont make sense where as option d) if high pressure area were to be concerned then there would have been an reverse in wind direction which is 030 correct but the wind speed would have decreased too which is not the case, its increasing 80 kts instead of being 40 kts

alonelyaviator
19th Sep 2011, 18:30
Capt. UN Bharti - 9833840552
Sandra - 8042649123
Radhika - 9731596249
Parul - 9560448585

alonelyaviator
19th Sep 2011, 18:34
Guys If someone knows trick to get the call for the exam please share with me as struggling for a single call since june attempt always got the first mail but no hall ticket....spoke to upendranath many time regarding this but no positive answer except just wait.....pls send pm:(

aviatepilot
19th Sep 2011, 19:07
got the call letter now for 22nd..the mail arrived at 12:13am...very strange they send call letters at dis hr of nite..

aviator_0088
19th Sep 2011, 19:14
@ aviatepilot
Are you appearing for the first time bro?

aviator_0088
19th Sep 2011, 19:36
@ alonelyaviator

thanks for the numbers, pls check your pm.

flight517
19th Sep 2011, 20:04
@aviatepilot
you mean you received it today(20th sept 2011) at 12:13am?
did you receive the second email before this(the one in which you had to reply to upendranath to get the hall ticket)

pilot in progress
19th Sep 2011, 21:01
2.A signal is received after fading at the receiver,Which is the most likely reason a.Quadrental Error b.
Night effect c. mountainous/terrain effect d. Coastal error

3.Echoes are received 30 degree to left.A/c hdg is 120 M , Find QTE?

4.On reaching the saturation vapour pressure,
a. it will stay at the same temperature b. it will become colder
c. it will become warmer.

5.Worload is defined as-
a.90% of crew resources have been utilized b. 60% of crew resources have
been utilized c. Depends on Pilot expertise d. Availability of resources


8 A/C is going from A (QNH 1012HPa) to B (QNH 1012Hpa), the altimeter reading differs.What could be the possible reason for this?
a. Aircraft is flying over a warmer airmass
b. Flying over a colder airmass
c. Altimeter error

pilot in progress
19th Sep 2011, 21:02
thanks all my fellow pilots for the help in answers and explanations....

have few more question posted above...thanks in advance
:ok::)

amriteshagarwal
19th Sep 2011, 22:07
any one who didn't received second email from ms radhika got the final call letter as yet by any chance?
:ugh:

skybuster7
20th Sep 2011, 06:16
answer for 2.A signal is received after fading at the receiver,Which is the most likely reason a.Quadrental Error b.
Night effect c. mountainous/terrain effect d. Coastal error

answer : b. Night effect

M figuring out other questions

skybuster7
20th Sep 2011, 07:23
Dont know on what basis they are calling people for the examination :sad: whatever it may be the only thing is we need is to wait for a green signal from them

vrg380
20th Sep 2011, 07:27
Are people still receiving Hall Tickets???? I got short listed for Sept 2011 attempt but have'nt received my Hall Ticket yet. Any 1 facing the same problem here?:uhoh:

vrg380
20th Sep 2011, 07:40
hy bro..!!! r u in delhi...I mean r u gonna cm 2 venue tomorrow...I had a talk wid sandra she told me that we might still get mail or might be mail have sent bt we didnt got due 2 sm technical reasons

kapoor.varun
20th Sep 2011, 10:38
no confirmation from CAE for exams this month yet.... :confused:

can i still expect them to send a mail today or tomorrow ? anybody get their mail one day before for earlier exams...?

good luck to evryone appearing this time

pilot in progress
20th Sep 2011, 10:52
@ skybuster7
answer for 2.A signal is received after fading at the receiver,Which is the most likely reason a.Quadrental Error b.
Night effect c. mountainous/terrain effect d. Coastal error

answer : b. Night effect

shoudn't it be mountain/terrain effect (just clearing my doubt)

skybuster7
20th Sep 2011, 11:11
mountainous regions cause reflection and diffraction of the transmitted radio signals it doesnt cause them to fade at the receiver the only we get away with this error is by flying at higher altitude

during day the D-region absorbs signals in LF/MF bands; at night D-region disappears allowing for the sky wave contamination; its bcoz of the phase interference between skywave and surface wave bcoz of their different paths; this effect is reduced by aerial design having short vertical elements but is not eliminated; the effect is manifest by fading of the audio signals and the needle 'hunting'

pilot in progress
20th Sep 2011, 11:39
thanks mate...

mgrandhi
20th Sep 2011, 16:16
Next Indigo Assesment is on oct 20th and 21st
Confirm news

AVIATROZ
20th Sep 2011, 17:25
friend r u surely sure about the next indigo assessment on 20-21oct..........please confirm with your sources.........if that`s true that`s really a good news.........but wanted to check its genuinity............as indigo will require some time for pilots being inducted in sept attempt..........i don`t think 20 days will be enough for them to complete there Cass and interview,medicals etc...........anyways hope what u say is right

attitudeFlying
20th Sep 2011, 17:35
Hey even i called up and they told me next attempt will be in November!!
Whom did you talk to?

flight517
20th Sep 2011, 18:52
@attitudeFlying & @mgrandhi: whom did both of you talk to????

TUXEDO
21st Sep 2011, 04:41
Next attempt in November....2 to 3 days...between 10-20 November.
Confirm.

mgrandhi
21st Sep 2011, 05:34
Oct 20 and 21st are the confirm dates i promise tht u can believe me blindly
just keep the studies up.

Transponder7777
21st Sep 2011, 08:28
Dear fellow pilots of PPrune,

I have got my invite for the exam on 22nd.. I m sure that its the student who fault when they are not called. Reckon this, 2 of my friends have got expired IR on their multi and were sitting with their fingers crossed in order to get their invite.. They dont get it.. I will talk to Sandra or RAdhika whoever is present to the venue tomoro.. n post whether the next exam is in October or November..

Happy Landings every1:O:O:)

cyrilroy21
21st Sep 2011, 08:31
@Transponder777

I have Two friends who's multi IR expired in August 2011......

Both of them got called for tomorrows exam.

Thnk beynd Glass wal
21st Sep 2011, 08:41
@ to all.....PLZ do try to give the answers as well.......
thanks in advance......
and dont get disheartened as you are jst getting extra time for prep...
as preparation is never complete and alot is always there to learn......

ALSO, its not reqd to have a valid multi IR for Indigo exam but one should have endorsed....

ecks
21st Sep 2011, 09:12
Friends kindly
, post the questions those who have appeared on. 21 sept ie todays exam .it would be of great help for all of us .

thearsenal
21st Sep 2011, 10:51
Q1 An a/c is desccending a 12% slope at a GS of 540 kt. what is the rate of descent?
A 4500fpm
B 3900fpm
C 6500fpm
D 650fpm

Q2 wpt 1 60S 30W
wpt 2 60S 20W
What will be the apprx lattitude shown on a display of an INS at longitude 25W
ANS 60degrees6min S

Having a bit of trouble with this. I would appreciate anybody trying to explain these questions. cheers.

aviator_0088
21st Sep 2011, 11:00
@thearsenal

Explanation to Q1:

The % slope is the tan of the slope angle * 100%.
So, in a 12% glideslope. tan of the slope angle is 12/100 = 0.12.
This gives a slope angle of 6.843deg.

But the tangent of the slope = ROD/Groundspeed
Therefore, ROD = tan slope * groundspeed which gives
ROD = 0.12 * 540KTS = 64.8KTS
Converting 64.8kts in fpm (MULTIPLY IT BY 101.33, SINCE, 1KT = 101.33ft/min)

ROD = 6564.24 ft/min

Option c) is closest to this answer.

aviator_0088
21st Sep 2011, 12:07
At medium lat, Coriolis Force experienced is:
a. 7.5 deg to the right
b. 15 deg to the left
c. 7.5 deg to the left
d. 10.5 deg to the right

The question doesn't mention the hemisphere. Could anyone pls explain this?

Thnk beynd Glass wal
21st Sep 2011, 13:13
@ aviator ( done it well) and the arsenal
ques 1
descending with a 12% slope means a/c loses 12% of ht per nm
i.e 12% 0f 6080 feet = 729.6 feet

so for 540 kts => 540 nm/hr =>
540/60 = 9nm/min
and 12% of 9nm => (9/100)*12 = 1.08nm or 1.08 * 6080 = 6566.4 feet
approx to 6500

flight517
21st Sep 2011, 14:55
people who appeared today-
Q1 How was the exam??
Q2 How many appeared??
Q3 How many made it to the next round??
Q4 Was the exam on the same pattern ie. 100 questions, same topics??
Q5 Any idea when the next attempt is going to be??

adi6515
21st Sep 2011, 15:44
Guys I appeared for the exam today.

exam pattern was pretty much the same lots of questions on human
performance, ifr procedures, few air regs questions, 2-3 cdmvt questions, few met questions (clouds at mid level/low level), feq qff qfe qnh questions , 5-6 questions on a/c intercepted by other aircraft procedures, 5-10 questions came from the question bank earlier posted in this thread.....

Rest will update later....

Total 52 people appeared out of which 14 cleared.....

cyrilroy21
21st Sep 2011, 15:57
@adi

Hi

I am not familiar with the term cdmvt

Could you expand the term for me please :O

Transponder7777
21st Sep 2011, 16:11
Its a synonym used to find out the compass or magnetic or true heading whatever has been asked in the question.

C- Compass heading
D- Deviation E/W
M- Magnetic Heading
V- Variation E/W
T- True Heading.

Add or subtract acc. to East least West Best rule and you can find the answer directly..

all the best for tomoro..

:O:)

niksmathew24
21st Sep 2011, 16:21
C D M V T is an acronym used for compass, deviation, magnetic, variation and true.
For the ease of remembering the order its known as,
Chocolate Delhi Milk Very Tasty! Can Ducks Make Vertical Turns! Can Dead Men Vote Twice! when doing conversions from compass to true.

Vice-Versa from true to compass its known as True Virgins Make Dull Company!

You should have come across this for your DGCA Nav papers.

Given below is a link with a pictorial representation for a quick look.

http://www.wetpaper.com.au/products/StudentWorkbooks/navpdfs/P42Nav.pdf

cyrilroy21
21st Sep 2011, 17:23
Thanks guys

Yes i did come across such question relating to such questions during the nav exams .

I have a manual E6B on which the formula to convert is printed on it and hence always used that to solve such problems

PPRuNe is the first place that i heard use this particular acronym

Anyway thanks once again

Any idea how long it took for them to announce the results today ?

alonelyaviator
21st Sep 2011, 18:04
Guys congrates those who manage to get to second stage...:D
I am planning to write next attempt if i will get the call..
So, its a genuine request please make some efforts like previous member did and give brief details of the paper like subject wise numbers ( total to 100) , topic covered, any new topic they added , and still no technical(engine, airframe and systems etc.)....:D
thanks in advance
ala

aviator_0088
21st Sep 2011, 18:42
Came across this question in Oxford-Radio Nav, bit confused about the correct answer.

An accuracy of +/-5deg in VOR bearings received at an a/c is achieved:
a) within the cone of confusion by day only
b) at all ranges within the DOC limits day & night
c) within the DOC limits by day only
d) beyond the cone of confusion as far as the DOC limits by day and night.

Pls help me out with this one.

flyygirl
22nd Sep 2011, 04:16
congrats to all those who got through yesterday.
good luck for round 2! and further.
the test was what we expect :much from oxford human performance,qnh-qfe questions,regulations about 25 questions and basic nav .
for all those who are preparing the paper comprises of 100 questions in 120 minutes including basic numerical s.so its good to be quick!

TUXEDO
22nd Sep 2011, 04:43
Any news regarding the next tests? is it end of October for sure?
Coz am gettin newz mid-November?
Plz ppl share the news.

elitepilot20
22nd Sep 2011, 05:49
date is not fixed yet.. but end Oct or mid Nov. doesn't make a big difference and they are gonna mail you again with the details of exam so don't worry even if they don't mail you, some one else on this thread will receive n you will come to know eventually.so keep your prep. up and be ready...good luck:ok:

thearsenal
22nd Sep 2011, 06:13
Just to clarify this is not an exam question. Just a question which Ive come across while studying

Q On a polar stereographic projection chart depicting the south pole a straight line joins psn A (70S 65E) to psn B (70S 25W)
The true crs on departure from A is apprx

A 315
B 225
C 250
D 135

Any help would be appreciated. cheers.

kapoor.varun
22nd Sep 2011, 08:45
@niksmathew24



the pdf file u loaded... possible for u to link me the entire notes.... im lookin for some formulas for time, GC tracks, etc... anything of that sort would be of help...goin through the ATPL manuals but need some formulae help.... thanks in advance

flight517
22nd Sep 2011, 12:49
they are gonna conduct exam every month for sure but as they reached the saturation level, they r planning to take very few from oct attempt.
thank you for the information about the next attempt, I really appreciate that but I wish to disagree with you on the 'saturation level' due to the following reasons:
IndiGo has a very big order pending- out of the 100 a/cs ordered only 43 have been delivered till now and then there is the 180 a/c order(I do not know if they have finalized it, or it is still a MoU)
Secondly it takes about 8-12 months for a cpl holder to go online- i think an airline like indigo, who had the paperwork ready a year before they were supposed to go international would not want to train their pilots after getting the deliveries.

But that is my own perspective, i could also be wrong about it. I know everyone has their own opinion about things, and I respect yours. Good luck to everyone for the next attempt.

juliet.alpha.yankee
22nd Sep 2011, 13:25
Guys...Please share your inputs about today's exam...How was the paper, how many appeared and how many managed to clear today's exam?

@Manoj...how could you be so sure about the stats that you have presented about the Modus operandi of Indigo in coming time?

Many a times it has happened that Indigo has dismantled all the speculations made by people like us by giving the results totally opposite to what we had thought about....:rolleyes:

VictorFoxtrot
22nd Sep 2011, 14:29
20 out of 50 cleared today..including me....
paper was pretty easy..there were a lot of regs q's, cdmvt,departure,time,adf/vor,altimeter,dme numericals,climb descent
human performance in depth as usual,lot of radio aids q's,met not much
principles of flight in depth...

cheers!!

cyrilroy21
22nd Sep 2011, 16:07
Just spoke to one of my friends who managed to pass today's exam :)

CAE informed him that from now on the CASS test and english test will be used as an elimination round . Apparently this has been in force since the July attempt and already two candidates have not managed to pass the CASS test .
Previously there was no pass or fail during the CASS test and everyone would be forwarded for the interview .

flight517
22nd Sep 2011, 16:10
this question is for the people who have cleared the first round after CAE stopped charging for the aviation knowledge test- how many of you have made it till the final step ie. LOI ??
The reason i am asking this is because earlier the passing rate was not even 10% and suddenly it has shot up to 25-40%.....is it because of the demand or an alternate way to make money??

Thnk beynd Glass wal
22nd Sep 2011, 18:38
hi to all.....
it was my first time for Indigo and it could be cracked if worked along some strategy
human performance ques.... alcohol, kyrie smthing cockpit ques, acute stress,
met... lapse rate, hail, clouds
nav- vhf range, dme range, frquencies of ssr, mode of ssr, etc

but still i would say to my opinion dont just only concentrate on human performance, that is must but gen navigation, and radio aids and
TIME MANAGEMENT i.e understanding, solving and putting right square on ans sheet is also very imp..........

will keep posting ques as i get back smthing from my short term memory...

PP351
22nd Sep 2011, 20:08
what is the answer of the 4th question i.e
A/c has to climb from 1500 to FL 75. QNH - 1023 hpa. Temp-ISA.

a. 6000
b. 6600
c. 7000
d. 8500

amtr
23rd Sep 2011, 00:04
Yes, I got the same question. Whats the answer ? Already Tried solving it but my answer matches none of the options given :(

TUXEDO
23rd Sep 2011, 04:30
@Transponder7777

In AviationTire.com (http://aviationtire.com) ...... ATPL question bank right????

and in In JAAexam.com ...... ????

could youe please guide on the same? plz.

Thank u :)

9FLYJET9
23rd Sep 2011, 06:57
ANY NEWS ON THE 28th and 29th JULY EXAMS ?
I THINK 14 CLEARED ON 28th AND 25 ON 29th JULY.
ANY IDEA OUT OF THE TOTAL 39 HOW MANY DID THEY FINALLY SELECT ?
HOW MANY GOT THE LOI ?

Thnk beynd Glass wal
23rd Sep 2011, 09:28
@transponder good work but wd like to make things lil more clear

ques 1 option d) to reduce cockpit workload..... it was the answer as well.

2. a/c coming behind making in line with ahead goin A/C a degree will be considered as overtaking

a. less than 50 deg
b. less than 60 deg
c. less than 70 deg
d. less than 80 deg

3. ans is b/n True North(TN) and Magnetic North(MN)

4. b option was 6300 not 6600...
and it looked right to me as from 1500 to 7500 diff is 6000
but it says FL 75 i.e altimeter set to 1013
and we can find the error comes out to b 300 feet

Thnk beynd Glass wal
23rd Sep 2011, 09:33
relative bearing ques, ndb and vor, ht of a/c, find out dist so that a/c can reach a given FL with ROD and GS given etc
but it looked to me as they change the things everytime

Transponder7777
23rd Sep 2011, 10:16
@tuxedo,

Yep..thts true.. The ATPL question bank given in the right.. and as for JAAexam.com.

You will have to download each and every module from that site you wanna work on.

It has seperate modules on Human performance, Radio Nav, Gen Nav, Met etc.

SO download it and start studying.

@think beyond Glass wal.

Thanks for the rectification brother, Appreciated!! and yes u r rite on yr aspect of human performance vs. G NAv.. but I would still say to go through thoroughly with Human Performance because that can be a life saver in the exam..

Tc

kush3370
23rd Sep 2011, 10:40
Hello folks..

By any chance is anybody here remember the exact month from where indigo started this first 2 attempt free????

aviatepilot
23rd Sep 2011, 11:44
Dear all,
There is no specific or special reason for more number of people to pass as quoted by many of the people here.

Its just that previously 2 yrs back not many people were aware of aviationtire.com and Dauntless or Bristol aviation{All these are JAA/ATPL question bank companies from where indigo makes it papers)..Not just 80% of the paper infact 99% of the questions come from aviationtire.com only.
Guys who would studied previously from these site would be able to shed some light on that.

Now since last one year more and more people have got to know of these sites.Hence the pass %% has increased drastically.

I agree that its very tough to study the 8000 odd questions in aviationtire,bt it is not an impossible task.Many of you would agree with me.!!!!!

So study hard dont just Byheart or mug up things.If you study by making few logics in mind it would be easy to remember things..

TUXEDO
23rd Sep 2011, 13:36
Can someone plz recollect and write down few REGS questions/topics asked in these 2 days - Sept 21 and 22 attempt. Plz.
would be of gr8 help!

TUXEDO
23rd Sep 2011, 13:40
Isnt it that accessing alll about 7-8 thousand questions one has to pay on that site..on -Aviationtire.com ????
how to access all of it??

speedbird787
23rd Sep 2011, 16:01
guys please make a note

yes the pass % in the written has gone up quite high.....but mind you the pass % in the interview has come down at the same rate if not even more.......just passing the written is not enough and recently they have made the CASS round as an elimination round as well.

the day i had my interview 9 were on the rolls....but only 3 got through:{

fortunately i was one of them.;)

so all the best to all who have passed.........and there is allways next time for those who didn't.:ok:

cheers

cyrilroy21
23rd Sep 2011, 16:07
the day i had my interview 9 were on the rolls....but only 3 got through

And the worst part is if you fail at the interview stage you can never ever apply with them again :( :{

@speedbird

WHen was your interview ? Also do they use the GD stage as an elimination round ?

speedbird787
23rd Sep 2011, 16:52
the interview was in august . The GD is before interview on the same day. well i dont think the use GD as an elemination round but yes it does count towards your selection.......yes its not as intensive as the jet GD where u have about 5 rounds but rather its just one round.

Johny Boy
23rd Sep 2011, 17:13
SpeedBird

Have they changed pattern of CASS now?
What was given in the CASS round - Topic's/worklog's or skills?

Would be helpful to all if you can explain the CASS round a bit more.

speedbird787
23rd Sep 2011, 17:28
well they send you a candidate handbook by e mail........one just has to go through it to have an idea of what CASS is all about?

basically its an assessment tool to measure the overall capability as a pilot.

which includes psychometry, mathematical skills, Perceptual Speed & Accuracy, English and speaking skill,reasoning skills like verbal, abstract and non verbal , , memory (short and long term), basic CRM skills, managing a lot of stress and a whole lot of different skills a good pilot should have. most of these skills are tested while flying on a simulator and thats where its gets difficult.

at the end of the day.. 375USD well spent ...no matter you pass or fail.

Johny Boy
23rd Sep 2011, 17:44
SpeedBird

That was detailed explanation of CASS.
So no one fails in the CASS then it means the whole CASS worklog is discussed/assessed in Final Interview by the interviewer?

One more query :- Do they bombard candidates on SIM seat with un usual level of stress related work/skill test while analyzing candidates body language coupled with emotional state.After done with rating, in CAE SIM checks what kind off SIM routines/procedures do we need to show our skills ?

speedbird787
23rd Sep 2011, 18:03
yes exactly . whole performance in CASS is looked in by the interviewer and the final call is taken .

yes they do bombard with questions while on the sim .

and whats to be done after the rating .i dont know.....cos i am not up to that stage as yet

Johny Boy
23rd Sep 2011, 18:20
Thank's a ton SpeedBird.

Your detail post regarding CASS will be very helpful for those who are done with written's.

All the best for TR & SIM checks.Hope to hear your RT Call soon....:)

cyrilroy21
23rd Sep 2011, 18:59
@speedbird 787

Check pm :)

flyygirl
24th Sep 2011, 05:01
thankyou much speed bird.very informative.
good luck to you

TUXEDO
24th Sep 2011, 07:11
@Speedbird could i get the same PM info as well plz.
thnk u.

SaabCapt
24th Sep 2011, 08:30
Hi guys,

Does anyone have an idea about how far is the cae test center from the Bangalore airport?

Those who have been there, could you suggest any good/cheap hotels nearby..?

errordetector
24th Sep 2011, 14:24
I had stayed at this hotel during my CASS

Hotel Narayana Comforts
Address:
No 9/9,Yelahanka,Yelahanka New Town,Bangalore,560064
Phone:
+91-80-28462751, +91-80-28462752.

They gave me a student discount,so the amount was around 900Rs for one day.The rooms and service both are good.....its situated on the Nh7 highway so the time to Cae will be about 25mins by taxi......the hotel also arranges taxi.My experience was good at this hotel.......I hope this will help someone.......good luck for CASS.

superdunkaroos
24th Sep 2011, 16:56
To the guys who have got call letters for the examination so far, the cae page says to fill up the 'online application form' to start the screening process, now I am assuming this refers to your profile/apply to this program on that page.

Or is there some other link that seems to elude my eyes?

SaabCapt
24th Sep 2011, 17:21
@errordetector

thank you!

ntab_him
25th Sep 2011, 04:06
hi guys . people who have their CASS test on 5th october. plz reply.

rushedyou
25th Sep 2011, 06:40
yes that is correct. fill up the profile page wid ur details...

P51mustang
25th Sep 2011, 08:42
@ SaabCapt , I had posted this earlier .....here is a place for around 200 - 300 Rs

I was in the same situation , i was able to find a near by lodge which is pretty close to the center ,the place is called R.V LODGE ,2ND FLR, DRV Plaza, NR Old Bus Stand, B B RD, Devanahalli, Bangalore - 562110 . i think i paid them 300 Rs for a non a/c room , and they have auto's available near the bus stop nearby so that you can make it to the center in the morning take about 15 mins ,thier website is R.V Lodge & Function Hall , there are hotels near the airport but in the range of 2000 - 3000 Rs aswell . Hope this helps and All the best for your CASS !!

SaabCapt
26th Sep 2011, 13:51
@P51mustang

Thanks! that's helpful

TUXEDO
26th Sep 2011, 14:30
Does anybdy have JAAatplexam.com ... key /unlocking password ......to unlock the full mode of the software / exam?? plz.

SaabCapt
26th Sep 2011, 16:43
Guys!

How to prepare for CASS.. (other than their handbook) ?

Any tips ..

Transponder7777
27th Sep 2011, 06:55
I am trying to shoot approaches on the microsoft flight simulator. Thats a bit tough but can prove to be an overall "Multi-tasking".

If u find any other info.. do lemme know..thanks

:):):O:O

aniqua
27th Sep 2011, 15:35
@ tuxedo
chk pm

randeep
28th Sep 2011, 02:39
Good luck to every1 giving CASS this time around!

Uniform.
28th Sep 2011, 05:43
hey guys..!!

whoever gave the Sept attempt, could you please let us know if there were any questions related to Powerplant and topics from Instrumentation like Automatic Flight Control systems, Warning and Recording, power plant and systems monitoring instruments :confused:
also, does the paper includes Indian Climatology related questions? :confused:

Please please do reply,
thanks in advance :)

SaabCapt
28th Sep 2011, 06:05
Not a single question came from the topics you have mentioned above.

Uniform.
28th Sep 2011, 06:18
thanks a ton SaabCapt :)
i appreciate that.

9FLYJET9
28th Sep 2011, 08:46
How is CASS going this week guys.Any one appeared this week.
How long do they take to declare CASS results, i heard its an elimination round now.

airbus320fan
28th Sep 2011, 13:41
Hey Guys,

Any new updates on the CAE assessment to be held in October??From what i heard last,it is rumored to be on the 21st and 22nd of Oct,but few speculate it to be in the second week of Oct . Any one with confirmed news,kindly share with the rest of the crowd.............Much appreciated.

mgrandhi
28th Sep 2011, 21:17
oct 20th and 21st confirm

beinghuman
29th Sep 2011, 06:28
Are you talking about the written test or what on the 21st ?

TUXEDO
1st Oct 2011, 04:05
Can anyone share what was asked from Instruments/Radio Aids/Nav - only from these 3 subjects in the last paper?? PLEASE.

LieDetector
2nd Oct 2011, 08:18
If the exam is conducted on the 21st of this month, what would be the general timeline for receiving the first and the second email from the HR?

3greens 1inthemirror
2nd Oct 2011, 10:22
last month, the exam was conducted on the 20th & 21st.

first mail came around 5th-8th
Second mail - the following week - 14th-15th

aviator.hemanand
3rd Oct 2011, 01:31
Hai all, as far as the CASS is concerned going over the booklet as many times you can grasp all information is important. I did 5 times.

Some do 15 times. It depends.

The game used for CASS is Lock on Flaming Cliffs Version 1.12( try in torrent or somewhere) or else use Microsoft Flight Sim.

I used a Psychometric test (got from my uncle online access code private for him) on one computer and at the same time done tough missions on Microsoft Flight Sim X to make it more tough for me and tried to make a mock test.

BUT Remember, its not the Physical assessment Stage alone which will determine your success its more about the psychological questions which Parul and Sandra shoot at you in the structured interview and Debriefing stage. Do not go with prepared answers, if its in you u will be able to answer what they expect.

They told me the results for the CASS will take 3 to 4 weeks. So I am not sure if they are going to take 4 weeks or might be even 4 days.

Being CONFIDENT(optimal level) and relaxed(as much as you can) is the key. Throughout the test never show your stress or frustration. You are being video graphed. All the Best:ok:

airbus320fan
3rd Oct 2011, 12:11
Thanks a lot MGRANDHI for the reply . Any news on wethr indigo has started issuing the first call letter??Kindly advice,

mgrandhi
3rd Oct 2011, 14:16
not yet but they should be issuing the 1st email before the end of this week. I think in next 3 or 4 days

cyrilroy21
3rd Oct 2011, 21:07
And in other news.....


IndiGo posts profit third year in a row


http://www.livemint.com/2011/10/03235615/IndiGo-posts-profit-third-year.html?h=B

airbus320fan
4th Oct 2011, 12:05
Thank you for the update . Kindly do share with the rest of us if any such mail comes up to your knowledge.............

Uniform.
4th Oct 2011, 18:32
when an aeroplane is flying with an airspeed which is 1.3times its basic stalling speed, the coefficient of lift as a percentage of the maximum lift coefficient would be ?? :confused:

and = 59%

HOW..!

If anyone could explain... plz

Maverick2167
4th Oct 2011, 18:59
when you fly at Vs you are flying at the optimal AOA that is to say the CL max.at that weight. therefore if you fly at 1.3 X Vs you are flying at a lower AOA or Lower CL max than at Vs . now from the Lift equation we have L= CL 1/2 p V(squared) S, (Not taking to account the Constants) we have CL = L/V (squared) so. assuming Vs = 1 then Cl= 1/(1.3) squared = 1/1.69 = 0.5917 multiplying by 100 gives you percentage which equals 59% :8

CaptGalaxy
5th Oct 2011, 12:56
Hi Folks,
Posted this in the ATPL questions section without much luck .. please do explain if you have a better understanding here .

i was going through the Oxford ATPL, Principles of flight and found a few statements which, i cant seem to understand. I feel they contradict each other so please advice if i'm reading it wrong.

1. Chapter- Drag > Parasite drag> skin friction
"Because of the adverse pressure gradient existing on a curved surface, the transition point will be further forward than if the surface was flat"

2. Chapter- High Lift Devices> Leading Edge Flaps
"On high speed aerofoil sections the leading edge may have very little camber and have a small radius. This can give flow separation just aft the leading edge at quite low angles of attack"

Now which of the above is right and is there something i'm missing in the above concepts?:sad:

Also - i dont seem to see the definition for Form drag : "Because of separation there will be a lower pressure at the trailing edge than the leading edge. An aerodynamic force will act in the direction of the lower pressure - form drag"
How would this be a drag if there is airflow from the leading to the trailing edge? wouldnt this infact contribute to the thrust for the aerofoil?
I understand the concept of adverse pressure gradient but the above reason has been quoted as a separate factor.

thanks in advance.

cheers,
P

CaptGalaxy
5th Oct 2011, 13:01
Hi,

I'm unable to solve a particular type of problem on convergency and conversion angles.
here's a sample - kindly let me know the process if you're able to solve them.

The GC bearing of position B in latitude (30 00 S) from Position A (30 00S 165 00E) is 100deg T
What is -
a. the GC bearing of A from B?
b. the longitude of position B?


Similarly - The initial GC track from C (36 00 N 15 00E) to D in latitude 42 N is 300deg T and the final track at D is 295deg T

a. What is the longitude of D?
b. What would be the approximate track direction at 11E ?

thanks
P

adi6515
5th Oct 2011, 15:13
Ans. 1 a)
As both points A and B are on same latitude....

R/L track from A to B is 090

R/L track from B to A is 270

As we know G/C track from A to B is 100

C.A.is 10 degrees

hence G/C bearing from B to A is 260 as both the points are in southern hemisphere.

b)
Now Conversion angle is 10 and convergency is twice of conversion angle=20

Now apply convergency formulae and find out the dlong
20= D.Long X Sin 30

Hope you can solve from here and find the longitude of B......


Ans. 2 a)
convergency = Difference between both the great circle tracks

which is here = 300-295 = 5

now again convergency formulae

5=d.longX sin39

Find dlong and then Longitude of D........

b) ????/

LieDetector
5th Oct 2011, 15:14
So looks like no exam on the 21st this month.

dragstar
5th Oct 2011, 16:49
@LieDetector

What makes you say 'no exam this month'??

LieDetector
5th Oct 2011, 17:07
Well its already the 5th no 1st round of emails have been sent out. Usually they ask you to confirm by the 8th or so.

johney_flying_high
5th Oct 2011, 18:29
Guys just heard from a friend who in the evening got a mail from Indigo saying exams on 21st and 22nd this month. Has anyone else got it yet??

hifi
5th Oct 2011, 19:15
Yes it is confirmed. People have received the initial call letter asking for their details and the exam is on Oct 20 and 21st.

Good Luck to everyone appearing this time!:ok:

flight517
5th Oct 2011, 20:20
@hifi: have you received the email???

AVIATROZ
6th Oct 2011, 03:56
Q1. A great circle has its North vertex at 70N130E, at what longitude and in what direction would the great circle cross the equator assuming:

a. Initial direction is east from the northern vertex{ans-140W 160{T}}

b. Initial direction is west frm northern vertex{ANs-040E200{T}}

Q2. Given that the compression value of the earth is 1/297 and that the semi major axis of the earth,measured at the axisof equator is 6378.4km,what is the semi major axis of the earth measured at the axis of the poles?
ans- 6356.9km

TUXEDO
6th Oct 2011, 04:53
Has seriously any one received the 1st email for the OCtober Attempt...PLEASE share ppl. Please.

smurf84
6th Oct 2011, 04:59
Sincere apologies if I'm bringing down the spirit here. It is disturbing to see this happen frequently. One person gets the invitation for the IndiGo selection test and then things go berserk in this forum. Everybody wants to know when they got the email, how they got it and who sent it. Is it really necessary? Why don't you guys wait for their email, rather than crying over it and polluting this forum. I was not called for the exam last month. Simple solution - just write to them and wait patiently for your turn. It will eventually come.

Uniform.
6th Oct 2011, 05:27
thanks Maverick2167 :)
tht was easy but lil twisted

wings of fire
6th Oct 2011, 06:26
Guys please share from whom have you received the emails. Radhika, sandra or parul for the october attempt. also please share the email id through which the sender is sending the emails.

smurf84
6th Oct 2011, 08:05
There you go! This doesn't seem to end at all.

hifi
6th Oct 2011, 08:14
Email was received yesterday Oct 5th from Parul Huria. This is the first email requesting CV and license details. Last date for reply is tomorrow Oct 7th.

As stated before, exam on Oct 20 & 21.

flight517
6th Oct 2011, 08:15
Sincere apologies if I'm bringing down the spirit here. It is disturbing to see this happen frequently. One person gets the invitation for the IndiGo selection test and then things go berserk in this forum. Everybody wants to know when they got the email, how they got it and who sent it. Is it really necessary? Why don't you guys wait for their email, rather than crying over it and polluting this forum. I was not called for the exam last month. Simple solution - just write to them and wait patiently for your turn. It will eventually come.
the whole point of this thread on this forum is to discuss about the indigo-cae assessment, hence everyone has every right to ask whatever questions they have, if you find that annoying then please stay away from the forum