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toledoashley 22nd Feb 2022 16:05

Maybe, but... Flybe Mk1 had an aircraft order it didn't need or could afford, aircraft on leases that were too expensive and a mountain of debt. A clean slate, with proper management it could be very possible those which were either marginal or loss-making, may turn a profit with leaner costs.

ATNotts 22nd Feb 2022 16:17

Still nothing on the media or on the Flybe website. Has Jenny got inside information or is she (?) guessing?

davidjohnson6 22nd Feb 2022 16:25

Jenny Tails' record of past posts suggests credibility. It would not surprise me in the least if information is beginning to leak out by virtue of somebody being a bit loose tongued in the pub after work

OzzyOzBorn 22nd Feb 2022 16:26


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 11188190)
Not being condescending at all, the word 'throughout' wasn't there when you posted it first, hence I stated they were there before. If you knew they were whey before why mention it, it would have no relevance!

Actually, it was. If I'd changed it, you would see the word "Edited" underneath alongside the time of alteration. I suggest you stop digging now.

southamptonavgeek 22nd Feb 2022 16:32


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11188251)
Has Jenny got inside information or is she (?) guessing?

They certainly seem plausible, but of course that doesn't make them true.

Mr A Tis 22nd Feb 2022 17:35


Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn (Post 11187809)
It may not be that simple. Over the weekend, I looked to book a BHD-MAN sector for mid-April, only to find that no carrier has flights on sale. The Aer Lingus A320 is gone ... presumably back to Dublin. But the replacement Emerald AT76 services are not yet loaded for bookings. It is possible that FlyBe 2.0 could launch flights from BHD before Emerald does. They're both new operations. I'm not predicting which will enter the market first, just pointing out that neither are on sale yet - so FlyBe could still be the one with first-mover advantage on some former Aer Lingus routes if they launch before Emerald do.

Of course, I acknowledge that EasyJet operate BFS-MAN throughout. But those routes operated by the Aer Lingus A320 from BHD may be left temporarily vacant.

I'm in the same boat as Ozzy, wanting to book MAN-BHD early April & there is nothing. Only easyJet to Aldergrove, which is not really what I want.
I'm surprised Aer Lingus are not continuing the booking process. I wouldn't hold my breath on Flybe2. Whoever might be operating BHD-MAN in April, might it not be a good idea to open up bookings now?

mart901 22nd Feb 2022 17:52


Originally Posted by Mr A Tis (Post 11188300)
I'm in the same boat as Ozzy, wanting to book MAN-BHD early April & there is nothing. Only easyJet to Aldergrove, which is not really what I want.
I'm surprised Aer Lingus are not continuing the booking process. I wouldn't hold my breath on Flybe2. Whoever might be operating BHD-MAN in April, might it not be a good idea to open up bookings now?

I'd say EIR will announce soon. Granted they've been awaiting UK license but in reality there's unlikely to be too many hurdles to that, I'd put it more to them sitting waiting on BE to see what they will have to compete on.
If those routes are correct BE are going for BHD routes where EIR haven't announced, excluding BHX which is basically the new BE's base and could be scrapped over but more likely will be just one or the other carrier.

​I'm waiting on BHD-BHX myself and agree the EZY offering isn't what I want every time either.

Jamie2009 22nd Feb 2022 18:53


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 11188310)
I'd say EIR will announce soon. Granted they've been awaiting UK license but in reality there's unlikely to be too many hurdles to that, I'd put it more to them sitting waiting on BE to see what they will have to compete on.
If those routes are correct BE are going for BHD routes where EIR haven't announced, excluding BHX which is basically the new BE's base and could be scrapped over but more likely will be just one or the other carrier.

​I'm waiting on BHD-BHX myself and agree the EZY offering isn't what I want every time either.

Aprils still a while away - why not give it just a bit longer and then look at your options🤷‍♂️

SWBKCB 22nd Feb 2022 19:00


Originally Posted by Jamie2009 (Post 11188333)
Aprils still a while away - why not give it just a bit longer and then look at your options🤷‍♂️

Why not announce what you are going to do? What's the hold-up?

What's the betting that when they do say something the strapline will be something about 'the passenger being at the centre of everything we do'? :rolleyes:

BA318 22nd Feb 2022 19:15


Originally Posted by Jamie2009 (Post 11188333)
Aprils still a while away - why not give it just a bit longer and then look at your options🤷‍♂️

Itís five weeks away. People have other things to book as well usually. And then if they have left it too late and no flight shows up they are left paying higher last minute prices.

When they report Q2 loses the same people will be using the excuse of how flights went on sale late and therefore they didnít get a fair shot at summer 22.

Albert Hall 22nd Feb 2022 19:30

It sounds like next Monday will be a fine day for playing airline "bulls**t bingo".

From what I'm told, there are several other routes to be added to this. BHX-JER is a Saturday only service through the summer. BHD-MAN and SOU-MAN are also on the cards and the latter suggests a SOU base.

TartinTon 22nd Feb 2022 19:34

I suspect aircraft and deliveries may be an issue. Given the history that they had with some very late deliveries before I see no reason why that might not be the case again with the hulls having been sat around for some time.

AirportPlanner1 22nd Feb 2022 19:42


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11188337)
Why not announce what you are going to do? What's the hold-up

Whether by accident or design I canít say but theyíll want to be towards the top of the news cycle. There hasnít been much room over the last few weeks because of Partygate, Ukraine, ĎFreedom Dayí etc. I know this because of something Iím involved in. Not that Monday will necessarily be any better, but you have to go eventually.

A short lead-in shouldnít be an issue. Ryanair have announced new routes for 5 weeks time.






BA318 22nd Feb 2022 19:46


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 11188368)
Whether by accident or design I canít say but theyíll want to be towards the top of the news cycle. There hasnít been much room over the last few weeks because of Partygate, Ukraine, ĎFreedom Dayí etc. I know this because of something Iím involved in. Not that Monday will necessarily be any better, but you have to go eventually.

A short lead-in shouldnít be an issue. Ryanair have announced new routes for 5 weeks time.

Ryanair have an established marketing machine, huge funds to bankroll any loses and can offer very cheap lead in fares. Does Flybe2 have any of that?

SWBKCB 22nd Feb 2022 19:50

Sorry but that sounds like b*llocks - do BE really think they are going to top of the news cycle, even on a quiet day? The percentage of the public that will be flying with them is tiny, but they need to be engaging with those potential passengers and not alienating them

Atlantic Explorer 22nd Feb 2022 20:02


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11188376)
Sorry but that sounds like b*llocks - do BE really think they are going to top of the news cycle, even on a quiet day? The percentage of the public that will be flying with them is tiny, but they need to be engaging with those potential passengers and not alienating them

Agreed! Just more waffling and hot air from the BE camp.

Jamie2009 22nd Feb 2022 20:18


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11188348)
Itís five weeks away. People have other things to book as well usually. And then if they have left it too late and no flight shows up they are left paying higher last minute prices.

When they report Q2 loses the same people will be using the excuse of how flights went on sale late and therefore they didnít get a fair shot at summer 22.

I couldnít agree more buddy. Donít waste your time Flybe bashing on here - get on the blower to your IAG mates and get them to sort it out.

Jamie2009 22nd Feb 2022 20:19


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11188372)
Ryanair have an established marketing machine, huge funds to bankroll any loses and can offer very cheap lead in fares. Does Flybe2 have any of that?

Just like IAG👍



BA318 22nd Feb 2022 20:29


Originally Posted by Jamie2009 (Post 11188389)
I couldnít agree more buddy. Donít waste your time Flybe bashing on here - get on the blower to your IAG mates and get them to sort it out.

Not sure what that means. Iím not a fan of IAG or BA. My username was purely an interest in the BA A318 which I flew on and working at LCY at the time. Not sure why you need an attitude constantly. People are allowed to debate this topic. Itís not Flybe bashing to ask about their resources or question their techniques.


BA318 22nd Feb 2022 20:37

More complaints about Flybe emailing people.


this time because they donít appear to have an EU nominated rep.


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