Any thoughts on Southend being a base, or destination? Whilst always wise to take corporate statements with a pinch of salt, SEN are recruiting ahead of a “busy summer season”. The current schedule is 13 weekly passenger flights and a nightly freighter…
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Hoping for something at Doncaster, however unlikely it is. It must be the only airport that didn't have any of the lost FlyBe routes replaced.
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Unless Flybe 2.0 want to make the same mistakes as version 1 they'll be steering clear of 3rd rank airports such as Southend and Doncaster until they are properly established. It's going to be tough for them and there will be little point in casting the net(work) too wide to begin with. The "scattergun" approach rarely works.
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
(Post 11188136)
mart901 - Which bit of my post led you to believe that I was unaware of EasyJet's history on BFS-MAN? I even referred to them. Please don't be condescending like that. Most people using this forum are or have been in the industry and are well aware of the basics. In my case, I've been using (and working with) flights between Belfast and MAN for years.
The point I made was that after Aer Lingus A320 service is withdrawn towards the end of March, nothing is on sale on BHD-MAN. Not Emerald, not FlyBe 2.0, not BA Cityflyer. None of them. So, as I said, FlyBe 2.0 does still have the opportunity to be first mover as the route resumes. Meanwhile, if any of them want some actual bookings (the important bit) they need to open their planned services for reservations. They won't be getting my mid-April booking anyway. I've made other arrangements. April travellers are making their plans now. If any carrier plans to serve the route by then (and perhaps they don't intend to), then they need to be accepting bookings already. They're probably best advised to hold off until at least May at this point. |
Routes
BHX-JER BHX-BHD BHD-CWL BHD-NCL BHD-LPL |
Don't Emerald (UK) have to get a UK AOC before they can start out of BHD?
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 11188145)
Hoping for something at Doncaster, however unlikely it is. It must be the only airport that didn't have any of the lost FlyBe routes replaced.
Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by Jenny Tails
(Post 11188194)
Routes
BHX-JER BHX-BHD BHD-CWL BHD-NCL BHD-LPL |
Originally Posted by BristolexFlyer
(Post 11188210)
There’s a reason for that. They should steer well clear of DSA.
Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by TimmyW
(Post 11188231)
Why's that?
Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by BristolexFlyer
(Post 11188236)
Pretty simple. The routes were loss making, and therefore unviable. Economics.
Regards BristolexFlyer |
Originally Posted by AndrewH52
(Post 11188238)
You could argue that about most Flybe 1.0 routes otherwise they probably wouldn’t have gone bust.
Regards BristolexFlyer |
Maybe, but... Flybe Mk1 had an aircraft order it didn't need or could afford, aircraft on leases that were too expensive and a mountain of debt. A clean slate, with proper management it could be very possible those which were either marginal or loss-making, may turn a profit with leaner costs.
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Still nothing on the media or on the Flybe website. Has Jenny got inside information or is she (?) guessing?
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Jenny Tails' record of past posts suggests credibility. It would not surprise me in the least if information is beginning to leak out by virtue of somebody being a bit loose tongued in the pub after work
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Originally Posted by mart901
(Post 11188190)
Not being condescending at all, the word 'throughout' wasn't there when you posted it first, hence I stated they were there before. If you knew they were whey before why mention it, it would have no relevance!
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 11188251)
Has Jenny got inside information or is she (?) guessing?
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
(Post 11187809)
It may not be that simple. Over the weekend, I looked to book a BHD-MAN sector for mid-April, only to find that no carrier has flights on sale. The Aer Lingus A320 is gone ... presumably back to Dublin. But the replacement Emerald AT76 services are not yet loaded for bookings. It is possible that FlyBe 2.0 could launch flights from BHD before Emerald does. They're both new operations. I'm not predicting which will enter the market first, just pointing out that neither are on sale yet - so FlyBe could still be the one with first-mover advantage on some former Aer Lingus routes if they launch before Emerald do.
Of course, I acknowledge that EasyJet operate BFS-MAN throughout. But those routes operated by the Aer Lingus A320 from BHD may be left temporarily vacant. I'm surprised Aer Lingus are not continuing the booking process. I wouldn't hold my breath on Flybe2. Whoever might be operating BHD-MAN in April, might it not be a good idea to open up bookings now? |
Originally Posted by Mr A Tis
(Post 11188300)
I'm in the same boat as Ozzy, wanting to book MAN-BHD early April & there is nothing. Only easyJet to Aldergrove, which is not really what I want.
I'm surprised Aer Lingus are not continuing the booking process. I wouldn't hold my breath on Flybe2. Whoever might be operating BHD-MAN in April, might it not be a good idea to open up bookings now? If those routes are correct BE are going for BHD routes where EIR haven't announced, excluding BHX which is basically the new BE's base and could be scrapped over but more likely will be just one or the other carrier. I'm waiting on BHD-BHX myself and agree the EZY offering isn't what I want every time either. |
Originally Posted by mart901
(Post 11188310)
I'd say EIR will announce soon. Granted they've been awaiting UK license but in reality there's unlikely to be too many hurdles to that, I'd put it more to them sitting waiting on BE to see what they will have to compete on.
If those routes are correct BE are going for BHD routes where EIR haven't announced, excluding BHX which is basically the new BE's base and could be scrapped over but more likely will be just one or the other carrier. I'm waiting on BHD-BHX myself and agree the EZY offering isn't what I want every time either. |
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