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SWBKCB 31st Jan 2022 15:13


Originally Posted by manx crab (Post 11177800)
I hope that the compensation would be based on the total amount charged to the consumer.

From the link posted:

Under the new plan, which is under consultation, passengers would be entitled to:
  • 25% of the ticket price for a delay of more than one hour but less than two hours
  • 50% of the ticket price for a delay of more than two hours but less than three hours
  • 100% of the ticket price for a delay of more than three hours.


TCAS FAN 1st Feb 2022 08:40

Have just received an email from "[email protected]" inviting me to update my contact details. Looks as if its going to happen, only question is when and apart from BHX, where from?

Sharklet7 1st Feb 2022 08:56


Originally Posted by TCAS FAN (Post 11178118)
Have just received an email from "[email protected]" inviting me to update my contact details. Looks as if its going to happen, only question is when and apart from BHX, where from?

Well there appears to be alot of their existing BHD are being recruited! Potential second Base at Belfast to add to their Birmingham base??

Interesting to see of they announce BHD base given Emerald Airlines (Aer Lingus Regional) plans to set up a base there as soon as they receive their UK AOC!!

BA318 1st Feb 2022 09:15


Originally Posted by TCAS FAN (Post 11178118)
Have just received an email from "[email protected]" inviting me to update my contact details. Looks as if its going to happen, only question is when and apart from BHX, where from?

Iíve seen people on social media claiming this breaks GDPR rules given itís supposedly a new company? Anyone know if it is? Someone had tweeted that they had made a complaint to the Information Commissioner.

ATNotts 1st Feb 2022 09:25


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11178137)
Iíve seen people on social media claiming this breaks GDPR rules given itís supposedly a new company? Anyone know if it is? Someone had tweeted that they had made a complaint to the Information Commissioner.

I imagine that given the "new" Flybe bought the database from the administrators, and they are now "inviting people to update their contact details" with, I'm sure somewhere towards the foot of the email, an "unsubscribe" link they'll be fine. Had they simply started bombarding the entire database with spam then I suspect things might have be different.

I assume that this database update is a prelude to the launch of their Summer 2022 programme, though actually I'm slightly surprised that since slots must have been applied for at BHX at least, unless they have entered spurious destinations, there hasn't been a "leak" from someone subscribing to ACL data by now. It would be naughty to start selling Summer 2022 flights without departure and arrival slots I would have thought - not that that bothers the likes of Jet2 and TUI flogging 2023 Summer already!

GayFriendly 1st Feb 2022 18:38

I've had an email too. Last flight I did with them was May 2019 BHX-DUS.

I think there's a lot going on behind the scenes. I n past times I worked with the person who seems to be heading up the ground teams recruitment and they are a very experienced and credible aviation professional.

I also know a number of people who've started their cabin crew training.

The only strange thing is the lack of any news about when they're starting and where, not even any social media teasers which suggests it might be a big one off all over the press launch?

I think they will reappear but as a much smaller and simplified version of BE Mark 1.

BA318 6th Feb 2022 20:18

https://www.cityam.com/flybe-pilots-...y-again/?amp=1

Flybe is under fire for itís ďunusually aggressiveĒ non-disclosure agreements for staff about their working conditions.

BusterHot 7th Feb 2022 19:49


Originally Posted by BA318 (Post 11180706)
https://www.cityam.com/flybe-pilots-...y-again/?amp=1

Flybe is under fire for itís ďunusually aggressiveĒ non-disclosure agreements for staff about their working conditions.

I hope Iím proved wrong, but sadly I donít see this ending (starting?) well.

Lots of professionals desperate to make it work (just like last time), managed by people with different agendas. This isnít Flybe of old (probably a good thing), but a business first and foremost and an airline second. I think that come 2 weeks post launch, most crews will be wondering what theyíve joined.

But Iíll say it again, I hope Iím proved wrong.

Citrine 8th Feb 2022 04:07


Originally Posted by BusterHot (Post 11181193)
I hope Iím proved wrong, but sadly I donít see this ending (starting?) well.

Lots of professionals desperate to make it work (just like last time), managed by people with different agendas. This isnít Flybe of old (probably a good thing), but a business first and foremost and an airline second. I think that come 2 weeks post launch, most crews will be wondering what theyíve joined.

But Iíll say it again, I hope Iím proved wrong.

Totslly agree with you......managed by people with different agenda's . Theyve messed around with folks lives once already and there doing it again with all this speculation firstly that cyras want to sell. In reality there is no need for another airline to buy it secondly I already know through the grapevine that one employee left after the 1st week. There exact words I know it's going to be a success but theyve jumped ship to another airline. If you know its going to be a success why leave....is it because you have already seen the cracks???i

Wycombe 8th Feb 2022 07:07


.is it because you have already seen the cracks???i
.....or maybe just got a better offer?

ATNotts 8th Feb 2022 07:46


Originally Posted by Citrine (Post 11181290)
Totslly agree with you......managed by people with different agenda's . Theyve messed around with folks lives once already and there doing it again with all this speculation firstly that cyras want to sell. In reality there is no need for another airline to buy it secondly I already know through the grapevine that one employee left after the 1st week. There exact words I know it's going to be a success but theyve jumped ship to another airline. If you know its going to be a success why leave....is it because you have already seen the cracks???i

Honestly, you've never had an instance of someone taking a job then not appearing on day 1, or leaving after 24 hours, or perhaps after a week or two??? I have seen all these a number of times in my working life, it isn't unusual and may or may not have anything to do with whether a business will succeed or fail.

I fully understand and sympathise with people who lost their jobs, or part of their pensions on the back of the demise of Flybe Mk.1 but it would be better if the analysis were less tabloid. Connecting the departure of one individual within a short space of time with the business failing verges on the sort of "click-bait" headlines that plague the Google News that I simply can't get off my phone (I probably could but I'm not that IT savvy!).

bean 8th Feb 2022 13:20

Unfortunately it's Pprune vs Flybe. Hundreds of pages of drivel over many years. It's not going to stop. Too many people with agendas/blinkered opinions

RogueOne 8th Feb 2022 17:48


Originally Posted by Citrine (Post 11181290)
Theyve messed around with folks lives once already and there doing it again

No they haven't and no they aren't. This is a totally different company, a totally different airline, with a wholly new management team!!! Again more ignorance and bias just because the name is the same. The name was bought. That's it.

New CEO, Board of Directors and one singular owner rather than 3 investors aiming to get their pound of flesh and also try to please shareholders.

I'm staggered how some can't get this through their thick heads. Perhaps it's jealousy, perhaps it's fear - because some of you work for the competition that are about to be beaten, or have been wronged by another airline that happened to share the same name 2 years ago.

SWBKCB 8th Feb 2022 18:01


No they haven't and no they aren't. This is a totally different company, a totally different airline, with a wholly new management team!!! Again more ignorance and bias just because the name is the same. The name was bought. That's it.
Except they keep saying "we're back". Except it's been bought by the people who owned it last time. A totally different airline except for the name, colour and aircraft. If its that different why not come clean and re-brand?

It's different in that they couldn't keep the old AOC they tried so hard for and haven't paid their debts.

Saabdriver1 8th Feb 2022 18:02

It's stretching credibility a little thinly to claim there is no connection when the sole shareholder today is one of the three who took over Flybe, secured its lendings against Flybe's assets and put itself in a "no lose" position when many others had no such choice or luxury. I don't believe there is anything thick-headed about people being clear on that count.

Albert Hall 8th Feb 2022 18:07

Everything I'm hearing is that BHD will be the first base with operations of any scale, and there will be very little flying at BHX. They sound to be pretty much stuck with having to operate the Heathrow remedy slots or else they are lost. I don't know whether you could or should put those two things together, but even if BHD-LHR isn't on the cards then it'll be interesting to see how they fly the LHR slots without losing their shirts doing it.

Skipness One Foxtrot 8th Feb 2022 18:58


Originally Posted by RogueOne (Post 11181688)
No they haven't and no they aren't. This is a totally different company, a totally different airline, with a wholly new management team!!! Again more ignorance and bias just because the name is the same. The name was bought. That's it.

New CEO, Board of Directors and one singular owner rather than 3 investors aiming to get their pound of flesh and also try to please shareholders.

I'm staggered how some can't get this through their thick heads. Perhaps it's jealousy, perhaps it's fear - because some of you work for the competition that are about to be eaten, or have been wronged by another airline that happened to share the same name 2 years ago.

This statement is contradicted by Zombie flybe who claim they're "back". Flybe themselves view this as a "relauch", they use the term "return". Having it both ways isn't a good start in terms of honesty and transparency. It's quite unpleasant to gloat that airlines which worked hard to survive COVID are going to get "eaten" by a firm who went bust and left a trail of debt in their wake. To say with a straight face this is a "totally different airline" is dishonesty IMHO.

Citrine 8th Feb 2022 19:41


Originally Posted by RogueOne (Post 11181688)
No they haven't and no they aren't. This is a totally different company, a totally different airline, with a wholly new management team!!! Again more ignorance and bias just because the name is the same. The name was bought. That's it.

New CEO, Board of Directors and one singular owner rather than 3 investors aiming to get their pound of flesh and also try to please shareholders.

I'm staggered how some can't get this through their thick heads. Perhaps it's jealousy, perhaps it's fear - because some of you work for the competition that are about to be eaten, or have been wronged by another airline that happened to share the same name 2 years ago.

I'm sure other airlines are absolutely petrified of flybe coming back😂😂 t

RogueOne 8th Feb 2022 19:59


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11181711)
It's quite unpleasant to gloat that airlines which worked hard to survive COVID are going to get "eaten" by a firm who went bust and left a trail of debt in their wake..

Again.... it's a new company!!! Flybe1 went bust. This is not that company.

For the ignorant. Here's a link to it: https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/02769768

If Flybe2 was called Super Duper Airlines Ltd none of your cages would be rattling right now, but many here have got axes to grind, and soapboxes to stand on to make yourselves feel relevant. Maybe there should be a Flybe2 thread created for positive/relevant/constructive discussion?? Mods, Admins - can we do that?

Flybe2 might be saying it's a return, because that's all the normal flying public care about, a return to flying the routes they would have travelled on before. Not worrying about absolute flannels here keen to bash a new company, a new airline and those unfortunate enough to have lost their jobs last time out. Good luck to them. Aviation and tourism and hospitality has been dicked good and proper, why the constant naysaying?? Just be happy and let them get on with connecting people and bring about jobs.

RogueOne 8th Feb 2022 20:01


Originally Posted by bean (Post 11181538)
Unfortunately it's Pprune vs Flybe. Hundreds of pages of drivel over many years. It's not going to stop. Too many people with agendas/blinkered opinions

1000% agree.


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