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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11193096)
So you're suggesting the slots and routes in the system filed and booked with airports and Eurocontrol, the new handling agent engaged & founded and all the employees hired & training conducted, head office moved and established, 2x new bases, a website that's built (but not live), 2 aircraft registered with more on the way, MRO services agreed.. etc etc etc - is all for show? 😂😂 Log off for a while, eh! |
I’m strictly neutral in this debate but please could someone from the “pro Flybe faction” give a sensible explanation as to why flights are not on sale if the start date is still late March?
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Originally Posted by willy wombat
(Post 11193354)
I’m strictly neutral in this debate but please could someone from the “pro Flybe faction” give a sensible explanation as to why flights are not on sale if the start date is still late March?
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 11193024)
Birmingham-Belfast City 3 x daily from 31 March
Manchester-Belfast City 2 x daily from 7 July, increasing to 3 x daily from 28 July and 4 x daily from 25 August I can only assume that they've successfully obtained their UK AOC, which is a lot earlier than expected as I'd read that it was due to happen sometime in June...? Wonder how this will change things for Flybe now... |
Originally Posted by jmdavies86
(Post 11193524)
According to Twitter (@SeanM1997), Emerald have now placed x6 routes from BHD on sale for S22 (inc. BHX & MAN). Both are due to start at the end of this month (BHX - 20th; MAN - 27th).
I can only assume that they've successfully obtained their UK AOC, which is a lot earlier than expected as I'd read that it was due to happen sometime in June...? Also see this post regarding their UK AOC.... it's not expected until the summer. https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airp...l#post11180748 |
I thought his question was a reasonable one - how does Emerald going on sale change things for Flybe's plans. It's on the right thread as far as I can see?
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Originally Posted by RogueOne
(Post 11193570)
You're in the wrong thread. You want the Emerald one.
I was also aware that Emerald were not expected to get their UK AOC until the summer, however they must have been granted it now because they wouldn't be able to start marketing/selling seats on domestic flights within the UK that are due to start at the end of this month if they don't have one - I've not read/seen any kind of press release or news article to suggest anything has happened, hence I was surprised - I agree though that this particular part probably should (and will!) get discussed in the Emerald thread. |
Originally Posted by jmdavies86
(Post 11193598)
They must have been granted it now because they wouldn't be able to start marketing/selling seats on domestic flights within the UK that are due to start at the end of this month if they don't have one
Every time your brain has a thought, you don't need to open your laptop and type it on pprune. Do a bit of research first. |
Originally Posted by RogueOne
(Post 11193998)
Unless as per their press release the flights are operated by Aer Lingus Regional. Do a bit of research first.
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Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek
(Post 11194046)
Their flights are not operated by Aer Lingus Regional, as that is not a licenced airline (merely a brand name). If you had read the press release, you would see that the flights will be operated by Emerald.
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Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek
(Post 11194046)
Their flights are not operated by Aer Lingus Regional, as that is not a licenced airline (merely a brand name). If you had read the press release, you would see that the flights will be operated by Emerald.
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Originally Posted by RogueOne
(Post 11193998)
Unless as per their press release the flights are operated by Aer Lingus Regional.
Every time your brain has a thought, you don't need to open your laptop and type it on pprune. Do a bit of research first. |
I'd heard it said that the new CEO in Flybe had something of a way about him but it's clearly also contagious.
Latest I'm getting is that start of flying delayed until 11 April at the earliest and may go back further. Delay related to finalising schedules based on uncertainty over slots although that bit is third hand news. |
Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 11194126)
I'd heard it said that the new CEO in Flybe had something of a way about him but it's clearly also contagious.
Latest I'm getting is that start of flying delayed until 11 April at the earliest and may go back further. Delay related to finalising schedules based on uncertainty over slots although that bit is third hand news. |
An article in the Independent today. Doesn't really say anything more.
Flybe: what is happening with the resurrected regional airline? (msn.com) |
Members of Flybe’s new team are: Philip Saunders, chief commercial officer. Saunders has held senior leadership roles in commercial, sales, marketing, and distribution at seven other airlines in the UK and around the world including British Airways, Deutsche BA, SN Brussels Airlines, Caribbean Airlines, Air Malta, Kuwait Airways, and South African Airways. In addition to leading highly successful commercial transformations at these various national airlines, he was also a senior executive at Travelport in the travel technology industry. John Jackson, chief operations and customer service officer. Jackson will be responsible for delivering operational excellence and world-class customer service across the airline by leading Flybe’s Airports, Flight Operations, Cabin Crew, People, and IT teams. He brings with him more than 30 years of industry experience having held previous senior roles with Continental, United Airlines, dnata, and Ravn Air Group in Alaska. Ron Karger, chief technical officer. Karger has more than 32 years experience in aviation maintenance and technical operations with previous roles including senior leadership positions at Air Canada Jazz, WestJet, WestJet Encore, and Pacific Coastal Airlines. As the director of maintenance at Encore, he oversaw the airline’s growth from start-up status to a fleet with forty-two Dash 8-400 aircraft. Jim Comer, director of finance. Comer is a chartered management accountant with 20 years experience in the aviation industry. Involved with the previous Flybe Ltd. since 2001, he has held roles in Treasury, FP&A, and Finance Business partnering, and he also played an important role in several pivotal projects including the acquisition and integration of BA Connect in 2007, the successful listing of Flybe on the London Stock Exchange in 2010, and the successful sale of Flybe’s business and assets in April 2021 to Cyrus Capital Partners L.P. CEO, Dave Pflieger, said of the new additions: “We are extremely excited to have such accomplished industry leaders joining Flybe’s management team. Each one brings a wealth of professional experience and knowledge that will prove invaluable as we look to launch the new Flybe, but also create a strong community focused airline that people love.” https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/west...ngham-take-off |
UK Aviation News are speculating on a May launch:
https://ukaviation.news/flybe-2-0-st...le-may-launch/ |
Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 11198429)
UK Aviation News are speculating on a May launch:
https://ukaviation.news/flybe-2-0-st...le-may-launch/ |
Given the recent announcements and recruitment activity my money is on a late March sales launch flying late April
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I’d given up posting the updates I kept getting on start dates as there were so many of them. Latest news seems in line with that suggestion, announcement on Wednesday for flying from late April. Issues with slots apparently at the root of the deferrals and the person dealing with this has left - not sure if that’s the cause of the problems or a consequence of them.
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