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Not sure if you've used the airport lately but it has changed out of all recognition. I hadn't used it for about 3-4 years until a month or so ago. It used to be a complete joke of an airport. I used the dart which was fast and efficient. The changes to the terminal were impressive. Security was quick and efficient. Boarding was the usual Easyjet shambles but that's not down to the airport. Arrivals were the usual speedy process that they had always been when using LTN (it was a domestic flight). Overall a massive improvement to my previous horrendous experiences so fair play to the management.
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Seeing you are asking the airport should be kept under the ownership of the council but greed and incompetence took over as income to LRT from the airport is being used for debt interest payments instead of dividends, which remain at zero.
If the airport was left at 18m then that would secure the airports future. It is now looking like LRT will borrow more money to finance phase 1 if approved, which further risks the airport of a takeover. The whole point of the concession is that the concessionaire takes the risks.
Let’s not forget that LRT is only here today due to a bailout by a council despite being created as a zero risk company to just collect concession fees and rents with no staff.
The town needs diversity not a single source employment choice for job creation where 24/7 becomes the only option.
These are all points I have said before so it is time to move on and get back to the airport, as no one is interested in my rants.
If the airport was left at 18m then that would secure the airports future. It is now looking like LRT will borrow more money to finance phase 1 if approved, which further risks the airport of a takeover. The whole point of the concession is that the concessionaire takes the risks.
Let’s not forget that LRT is only here today due to a bailout by a council despite being created as a zero risk company to just collect concession fees and rents with no staff.
The town needs diversity not a single source employment choice for job creation where 24/7 becomes the only option.
These are all points I have said before so it is time to move on and get back to the airport, as no one is interested in my rants.
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I note that Easyjet put out a press announcement that they are expecting their busiest Christmas Day programme this year, not specifically mentioning Luton but the EU bases- Wizzair near normal as usual and with Farnborough & Biggin closed a big influx of the normal NetJets/Vista. Happy Holidays!
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There are once again massive traffic queues to get to the airport today due to a lack of a dedicated drop off area that is playing havoc with staff trying to get to work. Please consider using another airport or travel by train if you can.
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it's busy everywhere, the public want to get away for Christmas & New Year, you should accommodate your journey accordingly.
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You’re a spotter so what do you know. It is not as stupid as you think. There are many passengers walking up the hill after being dropped off over half a mile from the airport with many passengers missing their flights due to turning up at the gates late.
The airport is in the position of being incapable of handing passengers outside of November that their drop off facilities can handle. Facilities that are a 10 to 15 minute walk from the terminal.
The airport is in the position of being incapable of handing passengers outside of November that their drop off facilities can handle. Facilities that are a 10 to 15 minute walk from the terminal.
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Is this the bus company that told the drivers not to stop at bus stops, regardless of number of people waiting, because the passengers getting on and off delayed the buses and made them look non-punctual ?
LTN has had over 2 months to figure out what to do for Xmas post-fire. Everyone knew that there would be a big exodus from London shortly before 25 Dec... it happens every year (war and pandemics excepted). Capacity planning and workarounds should have been in place with over 2 months notice.
At the very least, multiple emails could have been sent to pax begging them not to drive to the airport at peak periods, as well as putting flashing red messages on the LTN website to the same effect. Cheap, effective, easy to do, but but seems nobody could be bothered to do this.
The Xmas peak is just a few days... perhaps somebody might like to start thinking about what to do for summer 2024 ?
Operations Manager Surface Access, Head of Marketing and Communications, Head of Passenger Services... perhaps the three of you might like to have a chat about this ?
LTN has had over 2 months to figure out what to do for Xmas post-fire. Everyone knew that there would be a big exodus from London shortly before 25 Dec... it happens every year (war and pandemics excepted). Capacity planning and workarounds should have been in place with over 2 months notice.
At the very least, multiple emails could have been sent to pax begging them not to drive to the airport at peak periods, as well as putting flashing red messages on the LTN website to the same effect. Cheap, effective, easy to do, but but seems nobody could be bothered to do this.
The Xmas peak is just a few days... perhaps somebody might like to start thinking about what to do for summer 2024 ?
Operations Manager Surface Access, Head of Marketing and Communications, Head of Passenger Services... perhaps the three of you might like to have a chat about this ?
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Is this the bus company that told the drivers not to stop at bus stops, regardless of number of people waiting, because the passengers getting on and off delayed the buses and made them look non-punctual ?
LTN has had over 2 months to figure out what to do for Xmas post-fire. Everyone knew that there would be a big exodus from London shortly before 25 Dec... it happens every year (war and pandemics excepted). Capacity planning and workarounds should have been in place with over 2 months notice.
At the very least, multiple emails could have been sent to pax begging them not to drive to the airport at peak periods, as well as putting flashing red messages on the LTN website to the same effect. Cheap, effective, easy to do, but but seems nobody could be bothered to do this.
The Xmas peak is just a few days... perhaps somebody might like to start thinking about what to do for summer 2024 ?
Operations Manager Surface Access, Head of Marketing and Communications, Head of Passenger Services... perhaps the three of you might like to have a chat about this ?
LTN has had over 2 months to figure out what to do for Xmas post-fire. Everyone knew that there would be a big exodus from London shortly before 25 Dec... it happens every year (war and pandemics excepted). Capacity planning and workarounds should have been in place with over 2 months notice.
At the very least, multiple emails could have been sent to pax begging them not to drive to the airport at peak periods, as well as putting flashing red messages on the LTN website to the same effect. Cheap, effective, easy to do, but but seems nobody could be bothered to do this.
The Xmas peak is just a few days... perhaps somebody might like to start thinking about what to do for summer 2024 ?
Operations Manager Surface Access, Head of Marketing and Communications, Head of Passenger Services... perhaps the three of you might like to have a chat about this ?
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The airport is gridlocked with traffic now passing Capability Green at around 1.7 miles. Passengers are not even making it airside now with their flights already closed causing Christmas misery.. Time for the airport to declare a realistic cap due to operational reasons. I would suggest a maximum of a million passengers a month.
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The airport is gridlocked with traffic now passing Capability Green at around 1.7 miles. Passengers are not even making it airside now with their flights already closed. Time for the airport to declare a realistic cap due to operational reasons. I would suggest a maximum of a million passengers a month.
Perhaps some should only be allowed one way travel?
https://theglobalherald.com/news/tha...chief-reveals/
Slashing airport capacity by about 33 % seems a little drastic. Could LTN not just push *really* hard to persuade pax to use public transport instead ? Use the website and email to communicate this. Maybe also reduce the DART price temporarily and have extra buses to places poorly served by public transport like Milton Keynes and Stevenage. Perhaps have an additional temporary toll for access on the private road leading to the airport from the Holiday Inn.
The fire should not mean the terminal and runway be under-utilised... just a need to push people hard away from car travel and towards public transport.
It's too late to solve for Xmas 2023... but there's 3 months to do something in time for Easter 2024
The fire should not mean the terminal and runway be under-utilised... just a need to push people hard away from car travel and towards public transport.
It's too late to solve for Xmas 2023... but there's 3 months to do something in time for Easter 2024
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I worked on a project called last mile about ten years ago. Drop off is the least efficient and most environmentally unfriendly way to go to a railway station an airport etc. two journeys for every one really necessary. Yet it is very difficult to persuade people to change - even pricing doesn't work - all want to say "bye darling" it seems. As a single guy not an option open to me!
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Image rights are the issue, Mr Grumpy claims he was Buster first!! Join Date: Jan 2005
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More people forced off trains to airport today
http://BBC News - Faults cause major...herts-67827306
http://BBC News - Faults cause major...herts-67827306