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Old 2nd Dec 2023, 07:58
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The new pier for gates 30-43 seems to have closed in the last few days, with hoardings being erected in preparation for what looks like building work. Anybody know what's happening and how long this will last ?
This must be related to the following "building control" notifications/applications on the Luton planning portal. This is for works that don't need planning permissions as there is no change to the building footprint. Unfortunately, that means no plans or information is uploaded beyond a simple heading.
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Old 2nd Dec 2023, 21:06
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If anyone is wondering how a government examination of a planning application can cost the airport owners £68m at the last count then have a look at the index that grows by the day and maybe click on a document or two. Just the index runs to 89 pages. Some of the documents are over 500 pages long.

https://infrastructure.planninginspe...%20Library.pdf
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 16:54
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I hear the rest of the ex MAEL hangers will be in use again soon by a new tenant.
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 17:37
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More aircraft storage, which is Luton’s growth industry?
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 19:31
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Originally Posted by LTNman
More aircraft storage, which is Lutonís growth industry?
No, overnight maintenance.
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 18:29
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I read this as with a change in Government likely next year, accelerated growth
https://www.progressivebritain.org/i...rowth-mission/
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 19:25
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It is not very often that I read a story that is 100% BS but then it was written by LRT so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Edit, it was written by the Council leader, someone not noted for independent thought.
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 21:15
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"Airport expansion will drive fair, high-quality and well-paid jobs"

This is the only tune LRT seem capable of singing!........It's almost total rubbish and the bulk of workers will still be on minimum wage unsociable shift work!

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Old 6th Dec 2023, 21:35
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The know they are lying but they don’t care as their BS is aimed at the foolish, gullible and uneducated and there are plenty of them living in Luton.
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 21:52
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Some of these LRT clowns should be forced to work several shifts at the airport performing these so called "high quality" jobs - It might finally wake a few up!
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 23:16
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Two El Al flights planned tomorrow, assume for the upcoming Chanukah holiday.
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Old 7th Dec 2023, 22:20
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Originally Posted by LTNman
The know they are lying but they donít care as their BS is aimed at the foolish, gullible and uneducated and there are plenty of them living in Luton.
Back in 1992 I took up 6 month seasonal contract at a business operating at the airport. I worked hard and was committed in my role. Subsequently the management asked me to consider being full time. Eventually I became a supervisor and 4 years later I was promoted to Manager and responsible for 16 staff. I consider that success. If I could do it; so can anyone else if given the opportunity!
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Old 7th Dec 2023, 23:19
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In the 1990s, Lee Baker Street that is entirely possible and believable. Unfortunately, staff are now expected to work longer for less. One friend of mine changed jobs a couple of years ago and liked that they promised schedued, 1 hour, lunch breaks, an improvement on their current job. After being there for a couple of years, lunch is 15 minutes MAX. Sometimes, not even time to go to the loo. Not to mention not having enough staff for the work load.

Currently, the friend works part time. The company have asked them to take on more days. They have refused as they already work 1.5 hours extra every day (with no proper lunch break) and it is clear it is the same all the other days.

From my experience (I am 67), it is the same now in the public and private sector in the UK. YES - you can earn promotion and, eventually, a decent wage, BUT - getting there? The Pandemic has shown millions what it is like to work under less pressure.

I strongly suspect that many previous employees at LTN, will not return to the long hours, heavy work and unpredictable shifts - without a decent wage. But, the Brits are firmly of the view that air travel should be as cheap as possible. Indeed, as with many nations, they wish to pay as little as possible and earn as much as possible. That is understandable but, after 40 years of this, we are where we are. If people want better wages to do the work - then people will have to pay higher costs.

"Airport expansion will drive fair, high-quality and well-paid jobs"
Nope. It will provide more of the same kind of jobs A few 'high-quality and well-paid' but, mostly, low quality and low paid.
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Old 8th Dec 2023, 06:27
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Hence why UKGOV won't do anything about immigration levels. People from poorer countries flock to UK and will work long hours for peanuts whereas Brits won't (quite right too). Blame UKGOV, like everything else that's gone wrong with this country.
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Old 8th Dec 2023, 11:33
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The BS claim is that 11,000 new jobs will be created, meanwhile in the new world, jobs are disappearing fast at the airport. This time next year the security lanes at the airport will be reduced by a third. Most passengers will be expected to self check-in while retail will have more self check-outs. At arrivals, Border Force staff are being replaced by self scanner passport readers. The airport has even introduced robots to replace those on £10 an hour. Self driving airport vehicles will be next with more automation on baggage handling coming soon.

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How will the number of security lanes be reduced ? Won't that create long queues of passengers waiting to head to departures and reducing the time and money they can spend in the shops ?

The point about Border Force people being replaced by automated readers is a good thing. Since the machines were introduced, queue tines for Brits arriving in the UK have fallen significantly. Putting a passport into a reader and waiting for records to be pulled up is a deeply dull thing to do all day and sonething that can be delegated to arriving pax. Border Force people are meant to be focussed on the more difficult things, like catching people on small dinghies in the Channel, not rubber stamping the right of UK citizens to enter the UK.
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Security lanes are being reduced due to the government requirement to upgrade scanning equipment meaning less stops and searches and a much faster throughput with no 100ml liquid limit.

https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/pe...nology-4043749

There was also a tender out to remodel the security area.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

The point about Border Force people being replaced by automated readers is a good thing. Since the machines were introduced, queue tines for Brits arriving in the UK have fallen significantly. Putting a passport into a reader and waiting for records to be pulled up is a deeply dull thing to do all day and sonething that can be delegated to arriving pax. Border Force people are meant to be focussed on the more difficult things, like catching people on small dinghies in the Channel, not rubber stamping the right of UK citizens to enter the UK.
It's only a good thing if they are released for more added value duties, and not replaced. And the politics can be left to JetBlast. Hell of a commute to the Channel.
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Achieving more with a mix of automation and less reliance on manual labour so as to save costs is part of capitalism. The Luddite movement began formally over 200 years ago at the start of the Industrial Revolution. I suspect many monks employed as scribes for copying books were unhappy when Gutenberg invented the printing press in 1440
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Which is nothing to do with the point LTNman is making.
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