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Old 13th Oct 2023, 14:50
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Don't even need a human being to walk around and worry about HSE... a drone with a camera will do the job
I'll bet someone has said they can't use a drone (which are perfectly straightforward technology nowadays used for civil engineering inspections) because they are inside an ATZ.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 14:54
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Originally Posted by pabely
The PDF item 49 says approval for Infrastructure upgrades.

So Southend has to live off Luton and cannot sit on it's own two feet?
There is no item 49, what pdf page number?
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 15:13
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para 49 on page 8

Formal Decision

49. Accordingly, for the reasons given above, the Secretaries of State agree with the Panel’s recommendation. They hereby grant planning permission subject to the conditions set out in Annex B of this decision letter for the full planning application for dualling of the airport way/approach road and associated junction improvements, extensions and alterations to the terminal buildings, erection of new departures/arrivals pier and walkway, erection of a pedestrian link building from the short-term car park to the terminal, extensions and alterations to the mid-term and long-term car parks, construction of a new parallel taxiway, extensions to the existing taxiway parallel to the runway, extensions to existing aircraft parking aprons, improvements to ancillary infrastructure including access and drainage, and demolition of existing structures and enabling works; and outline planning permission granted for the construction of a multi-storey car park and pedestrian link building, at London Luton Airport, Airport Way, Luton, LU2 9LY, in accordance with the terms of the application Ref 21/00031/VARCON, dated 8 January 2021.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 16:44
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
para 49 on page 8
Thats all the work that has been carried out to date, nothing to do with forward planning as far as I can see
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 16:50
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Agree, nothing new there, as it was part of the planning permission for 18m. As I said the application is just to put 19m through the front door without doing any improvements.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 17:01
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Reading it again permission is only granted subject to 49 being completed. As the parallel taxiway was never completed it reads to me that the 18m limit is still locked in until the work is done?
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 18:27
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Hmm , it is worded taxiway extensionS so maybe 19M only after the 25 extension is finished?
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 18:48
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
Hmm , it is worded taxiway extensionS so maybe 19M only after the 25 extension is finished?
Is that extending the taxiway to 25 turning circle ?
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 18:54
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Is that extending the taxiway to 25 turning circle ?
Thats the way I read it but the Airport might not interpret it that way- we shall see
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 19:07
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That's how I read it. This part.

Annex B
2. Details of the timescale for the commencement of Phase 3 works comprising (i) Taxiway 26 (Golf) and (ii) north apron extension, as shown on As Built Masterplan Plan with Phases Labelled drawing, received November 2023 (INQ-86) (hereinafter referred to as Phase 3) of the development shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the Local Planning Authority prior to its commencement. The scheme as approved shall be implemented in accordance with the approved timescales.

So is the above a proposed Taxiway 26 Gulf?
......received November 2023.
Yet to find INQ-86

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Old 13th Oct 2023, 20:31
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Taxiway still won’t reach the end of the runway. Half a job comes to mind. A bit like not putting in sprinklers and finding your car park has burned to the ground. . Yes I think the extension is Golf from memory.

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Old 13th Oct 2023, 20:47
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The 32m master plan shows 2 Alpha extensions at 25 end, only the second goes to the turning circle so I assume will require more major earthworks but the documents today also talk about piling so I assume it's not just a case of laying a foundation and concrete over the top.
Should aid flow though and go some way to relief from "you are #8 for departure" whilst waiting to depart along the Alpha Taxiway.
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 22:02
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Luton Airport Fire: Shuttle link remains closed after blaze https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-67107300
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Old 13th Oct 2023, 23:28
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x4 RYR Max will be overnighting, been x3 for a whilst now, one off, or was the Dublin reduction press release correct?
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 13:59
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This is where I'm confused about the master plan.
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  • To access the four northern Code C stands, a section of new Taxiway Golf would be constructed with a link taxiway connecting this to Taxiway Foxtrot.
  • 4.6.14
    An extension to Taxiway Foxtrot to the north would be constructed to allow aircraft to bypass the existing T1 East Apron to minimise taxiway congestion."
Note the use of Taxiway Gulf which is the bit above Foxtrot next to Harrods hangars & overflow apron from FBO terminal.
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:08
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Luton Airport Fire: Shuttle link remains closed after blaze https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-67107300
Updated details.
http://BBC News - Luton Airport fire...herts-67107474 More than 16,000 customers contacted
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:23
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I drove past the Dart at Parkway today at around 9:40 and noticed 2 ordinary Arriva single deckers at the station with no queuing passengers that I could see.

Yesterday morning, at 6:30, I got a text from an angry friend that he and his wife were forced to queue in the rain with no shelter rather than queue just inside the building at Parkway, which was in spitting distance. He said it took half an hour to get to the terminal, which is better than my estimated hour on day one after the fire.
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 16:26
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Originally Posted by pabely
Updated details.
http://BBC News - Luton Airport fire...herts-67107474 More than 16,000 customers contacted
That link doesn’t work so try this.
Luton Airport fire: More than 16,000 customers contacted https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-6710747

If the fire at Liverpool is an example, the undamaged cars will be scrapped due to safety concerns in retrieving them.

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Old 14th Oct 2023, 18:35
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I drove past the Dart at Parkway today at around 9:40 and noticed 2 ordinary Arriva single deckers at the station with no queuing passengers that I could see.

Yesterday morning, at 6:30, I got a text from an angry friend that he and his wife were forced to queue in the rain with no shelter rather than queue just inside the building at Parkway, which was in spitting distance. He said it took half an hour to get to the terminal, which is better than my estimated hour on day one after the fire.
You had a text from an angry friend at 06.30 in the morning regarding the fact that he and his wife had to queue in the rain with no shelter.

Are you now the official Luton Airport helpline.

What type of friend texts someone at 06.30 complaining about something like that 🤔
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Old 14th Oct 2023, 19:10
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Are you now the official Luton Airport helpline.
I think I was, as we already had a conversation about getting back to Luton.

His Luton return flight was cancelled due to the fire and ended up being transferred onto a Gatwick flight the following night. He eventually got back to Luton Airport Parkway where he needed to get to the terminal to catch the bus to the long term car park. I said 6:30 but it was actually 6:14 that he contacted me.


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