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Old 12th Oct 2023, 14:42
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Originally Posted by LTNman
What caused the Luton Airport fire and what happens next? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-67077996
Firstly I want to say I hope those fire personnel who were injured whilst carrying out their duties have a speedy recovery and a big thank you to all response people who attended to the fire.

As for you LTNman in my personal opinion from your comments you are the most negative person I have ever come across in my lifetime.

in regards to the BBC’s question ‘what happens next’ I strongly suggest the carpark 2 is replaced elsewhere at the airport and the current land is divided into two whereby a drop off area is reinstated and a new building built with connection to the new 4 a/c stands and the 6 stands on the south apron.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 15:01
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My comments on the free drop off and parking sounds positive to me, as did the my comments on the new entrance and exits to CP1. Whether sprinklers are fitted is a legitimate question. The photos show how things are, they don’t lie and nor do my comments but people can draw their own conclusions to the photos, as they are provided as evidence.

CP2 with drop off zone will be replaced where it is. Having an undercover drop off zone is to be commended so why split it?

Best not to look here tomorrow, as I will be doing Part 2 of my photos but this time focusing on the Dart being out of action.

I see heavy prolonged rain is forecast tonight with yellow weather warnings. Feeling positive that the tunnel won’t flood again like last month. If it does at least the drop off area won’t be affected but bringing wellies might be advisable for that very short hop to the terminal.

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Old 12th Oct 2023, 15:33
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LBS and reality.....Two things that never go together!
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 15:52
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Good to see the issue with the Kenyan 787 at STN was resolved quickly and the holding aircraft didn't need to pile into LTN and other airports!
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 16:04
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It's a long while since i travelled through Luton airport,how do i get from the airport into to London is there a train or bus.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 16:15
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In the short term shuttle bus to the station, then train to London. When the Dart opens again use that to the station. National Express A1, A2 or Green Line 757 to London if you prefer coach. National Express is more frequent than the Green Line. Better to buy tickets online before you travel if you can, regardless of mode of transport.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 16:18
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Originally Posted by LTNman
In the short term shuttle bus to the station, then train to London. When the Dart opens again use that to the station. National Express A1, A2 or Green Line to London if you prefer coach travel. Better to buy tickets online before you travel if you can.
Cheers m8 for your reply.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 18:12
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You think that there are lots of spare buses and drivers just sitting around? A reschedule of current services may free up a few buses and drivers but that would take time and probably some negotiation
Wasn't someone contracted to put on a bus service at short notice in case of DART failure, or was that just within the honeymoon period getting it up to full service?
All the old buses have been donated to Ukraine for humanitarian work.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 18:20
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Originally Posted by ezyBoh
You think that there are lots of spare buses and drivers just sitting around? A reschedule of current services may free up a few buses and drivers but that would take time and probably some negotiation
Wasn't someone contracted to put on a bus service at short notice in case of DART failure, or was that just within the honeymoon period getting it up to full service?
All the old buses have been donated to Ukraine for humanitarian work.

Time to declare force majeure again and get the Council to cough up after stopping all payments?
Wasn't that LLAOL, not Luton Rising? I thought Car Park revenue goes straight to LR?
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 19:32
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Sorry if this has been asked but I have not noticed, and perhaps the font of all knowledge has the answer....
Given the new stands close to CP2, were there any aircraft on them at the time and were they moved out of harm's way??
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 19:38
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Arriva hold the contract.

Car park and drop off revenue goes to the airport operator. Dart revenue goes to LRT who pay the airport operator a fee for staff.
LLAOL declared force majeure so paid nothing to LRT who got bailed out by the Council.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 19:41
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash
Sorry if this has been asked but I have not noticed, and perhaps the font of all knowledge has the answer....
Given the new stands close to CP2, were there any aircraft on them at the time and were they moved out of harm's way??
Don't know, but the south stands are also just as close.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 19:45
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How long will the DART be out of service and replaced by buses ? A year or more ?
At £4.90 for a one way, there is an expectation that it had better be good... I don't think people will accept standing room only in a bus for £4.90 for very long
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 19:52
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash
Sorry if this has been asked but I have not noticed, and perhaps the font of all knowledge has the answer....
Given the new stands close to CP2, were there any aircraft on them at the time and were they moved out of harm's way??
New stands 90-92 are only used late a night and first thing in morning. Likewise South Stands, during the day they are used as a holding area until slot becomes available with London ATC accepting departure. Helps free up central stands.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 20:16
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
How long will the DART be out of service and replaced by buses ? A year or more ?
At £4.90 for a one way, there is an expectation that it had better be good... I don't think people will accept standing room only in a bus for £4.90 for very long
Been told CP2 is waiting for a full structural survey to be carried out. The results will dictate the opening date for the Dart.

Also the results of the 19m application are meant to come out tomorrow.

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Old 12th Oct 2023, 20:18
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash
Sorry if this has been asked but I have not noticed, and perhaps the font of all knowledge has the answer....
Given the new stands close to CP2, were there any aircraft on them at the time and were they moved out of harm's way??
There was an A320 parked (G-EZOA) there around 6 pm but I assume it was moved later. I noted in one photo taken after the fire that there was EZY machine amongst the bizjets on the Pond, which I assume was not a normal parking arrangement.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 21:22
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Passengers are being advised to use station car parks as far away as St Albans.

If you have not prebooked a parking space, please do not come to the airport car parks as there is no capacity.

There is alternative parking available at Luton Airport Parkway, 1.2 miles, post code LU1 3JW, information can be found at https://www.apcoa.co.uk/parking-in/l...rkway-station/. Limited prebooking is available via https://prebook.apcoa.co.uk/carpark/...y-station/3685

Luton Midland Road, 2.1 miles, postcode LU1 2LT.

Leagrave. 5.6 miles, postcode LU4 9BA

St Albans Victoria Street, 12.3 miles, postcode AL1 5HE
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 21:37
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The more you look the more cars you will see in the drop off area



A few holes in the roof.
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 21:39
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Been told CP2 is waiting for a full structural survey to be been carried out. The results will dictate the opening date for the Dart.
Do you happen to know approximately when the surveyors are likely to have a proper look at CP2, and when they will publish a formal report ? End of October ? End of November ?
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Old 12th Oct 2023, 21:55
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No idea, I suspect the airport owners and operator have no idea either.
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