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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 15:12
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Somebodies got a sense of humour
We all know Luton isn't London even if the airport name claims it is, but adding it to the London Underground however would make a lot of sense. As more airports become accessible by Tube, giving Luton Airport a Tube station would make everyone's lives easier and catching flights much cheaper.
How many airports are accessible by Tube?


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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 15:37
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Originally Posted by pabely
People up North would hate this after the cuts to HS2 but it actually makes sense, London tube network extension to St Albans & Luton. Help reduce commute traffic to London.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/trans...ondon-27927784
East West got the Elizabeth Line.
Too bloody right they would!!

But if London wanted London would probably get.
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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 16:09
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Pointless. Where would the stations go? Harpenden, St Albans Radlett etc, towns that already have rail links.

It’s bad enough catching the all station stopper to St Pancras that takes 45 minutes but feels like 3 days and gives a taster of what’s it like to catch a train from Stansted of worse still Southend to Liverpool Street.

East West got the Elizabeth Line.
And Luton and Gatwick has got Thamelink, which has direct links to around 20 London station.

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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 19:52
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Did you know that Mill Hill East terminus was originally to go to Mill Hill, Edgware East, Brockley Hill, Elstree South and ending at Bushey Heath.
The Edgware Terminus actually has abandoned tunnels into the Hill.
I think the Author was thinking more about the High Barnet terminus, West of Potters Bar, Colney Heath, between St Albans & Hatfield and north to join the old line round Wheathampsted, Batford and onto Luton, past Luton Parkway's door.
I know it will never happen but would pull a good number of cars off the roads down the M1 & A1M currently.
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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 20:20
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Luton Airport Parkway’s location used to have an east west rail link passing through the stations forecourt that joined 3 main lines from Leighton Buzzard and the West Coast main line to Welwyn and the East Coast main line.

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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 21:03
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A service like the tube is about having a high frequency service with stops spaced short distances apart and not travelling very far. It does not work well if people travel long distances... such as the former Bakerloo line extending from central London all the way out to Watford Junction.

Travellers between London and Luton / Luton Parkway are best served by a service with fewer stops that travel at higher speeds between stations... a bit like the French RER or even Thameslink. A service to London that runs every 3 minutes but take 90 minutes to reach central London because it stops at every village is unlikely to see many passengers. The tube isn't there to provide high frequency service between Luton and Harpenden.

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Old 22nd Oct 2023, 23:01
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Someone been into Car Park in what appears to be an attempt to retrieve possessions from a car trapped in Car Park.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/244884...car-park-fire/
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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 06:56
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Originally Posted by LTNman
A mobile crane is erecting a tower crane by MSCP2.
NOTAM until 1st November so those 100 cars on top floor will be coming down quite quickly.
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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 10:48
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I made an incorrect statement in saying a mobile crane was erecting a tower crane. They are in fact both mobile cranes.


One crane contains a cage that contains the recovery crew. The crew are strapped to the cage.


The other crane is doing the lifting.


This car looks intact but careful examination will show the plastic that covers the bottom of the doors has melted


As suspected, passengers are now walking in the road to and from the mid term

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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 14:24
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As suspected, passengers are now walking in the road to and from the mid term
Walking in the road, or walking on the left hand lane that has been temporarily given over to pedestrians?




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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 18:17
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Originally Posted by spekesoftly
Walking in the road, or walking on the left hand lane that has been temporarily given over to pedestrians?
Exactly, that lane is temporally, no longer a road.

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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 18:29
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Noticed in the ACL LTN S24 declaration (apologies if it has been discuss before).
LLA is expecting a decision on its planning application to grow to 19mppa in October 2023 (subject to change).
• If LLA* obtains planning permission which it deems to be acceptable, and which lawfully permits LLA to allow up to 19 million commercial air passengers to travel through the airport within any 12 month period, LLA will release the following capacity as T-coded slots, this will be released no later than 15th January 2024.
• 3 additional code C stands, taking the total Code C stands to 45.
• 457,158 additional PATM, taking the total PATM available to 13,337,158.

Will this stop the leakage of some FlyOne & SunExpress services to STN or just give the major players more wiggle room? Can see Wizzair wanting to up Istanbul, the Turkish Airport are on record wanting to encourage more ULC operations and not rely totally on Turkish airlines to drive their ambitions.

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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 19:44
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The ACL document doesn't specify what T-coded slots are. Can anyone explain?

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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 20:28
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If you read the planning inspectors report nothing is going to change regarding the 18m limit until all the planning conditions are met and that isn’t going to happen anytime soon, as they are not quick fixes.
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Old 23rd Oct 2023, 22:46
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
The ACL document doesn't specify what T-coded slots are. Can anyone explain?

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T coded slots are slots that have conditions attached to them defined by the co-ordinator...they can be many and varied.
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Old 24th Oct 2023, 12:47
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How can Luton be going for 3rd slot https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/d...irport-london/ when Stansted already approved for 43m and Manchester 50m?
Wish reporters would do a little more basic homework.
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Old 24th Oct 2023, 13:12
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Actually very poor- expected better from the telegraph
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Old 24th Oct 2023, 14:48
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Personally a rather poor article badly written coming from someone who used to write for a living. How an accidental car park fire be associated with how an airport operates. I notice we had the usual nimby's complaining again. The airport first opened in the 1930s and has had a concrete runway since 1960 so those complaining haven't got a leg to stand on. My late father said ' never buy a property near a river son it may look lovely in the summer but rivers flood'.
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Old 24th Oct 2023, 14:53
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All newspapers are just clickbat to get you to see adverts! Some even charge you for the privilege and expect free range cookie access.
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Old 24th Oct 2023, 16:17
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My late father said ' never buy a property near a river son it may look lovely in the summer but rivers flood'.
Those complaining the most never bought a property near an airport so they are entitled to complain if they wish. Even those living closer have a right to object if they consider the application to be unreasonable.

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