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Old 27th May 2022, 10:56
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Nice to see Luton can still attract some big Biz Jets in the form of a 757! I think the Foo Fighters used this before on a previous tour.
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Old 29th May 2022, 06:54
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Just having a look at the departure and arrivals boards - looks like it must be getting pretty close to 2019 levels again, at least with movements. I was driving about 1am last night in eastern Bedfordshire and was struck by how many arrivals were stacking up or on approach. 16 scheduled arrivals after midnight this morning it looks.
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Old 29th May 2022, 11:52
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What happened to G-WUKN on Saturday? Flying WUK6092 to Suceava, it got as far as the Dutch coast, then returned. It did 4 orbits over Suffolk (although not to lose height), then came in to land on 25, after some 60 minutes away.
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Old 29th May 2022, 12:08
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
What happened to G-WUKN on Saturday? Flying WUK6092 to Suceava, it got as far as the Dutch coast, then returned. It did 4 orbits over Suffolk (although not to lose height), then came in to land on 25, after some 60 minutes away.
Returned with a pressurisation issue.
This coupled with WUKM nightstopping in TLV, resulted in a hell of a mess this morning.
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Old 29th May 2022, 17:08
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
Just having a look at the departure and arrivals boards - looks like it must be getting pretty close to 2019 levels again, at least with movements. I was driving about 1am last night in eastern Bedfordshire and was struck by how many arrivals were stacking up or on approach. 16 scheduled arrivals after midnight this morning it looks.
16 looks right, and a few biz. I think it's 21 for nighttime period. Sunday early is usually quiet for DHL.
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Old 29th May 2022, 17:50
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This coupled with WUKM nightstopping in TLV, resulted in a hell of a mess this morning.
Luton-Ohrid 01:30, Tirana 01:30, Lublin cancelled, Bratislava 3 hrs, Poznana 60 mins, Dalaman 02:10, Tel-Aviv 02:45, Antalya 01:15, Tirana 01:20, Tenerife 01:10, Kosice 60 mins, Malaga?.
Gatwick-Malaga 02:50, Milan 60 mins, Podgorica 03:30, Tel-Aviv 01:10, Tenerife 03:10, Chania estimated 2 hrs, Palma estimated 01:40.
WUK is not a shining star of on-time performance.
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Luton-Ohrid 01:30, Tirana 01:30, Lublin cancelled, Bratislava 3 hrs, Poznana 60 mins, Dalaman 02:10, Tel-Aviv 02:45, Antalya 01:15, Tirana 01:20, Tenerife 01:10, Kosice 60 mins, Malaga?.
Gatwick-Malaga 02:50, Milan 60 mins, Podgorica 03:30, Tel-Aviv 01:10, Tenerife 03:10, Chania estimated 2 hrs, Palma estimated 01:40.
WUK is not a shining star of on-time performance.
Kosice now also cancelled, and TLV (WUKP) once again staying the night away.
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Old 29th May 2022, 20:07
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Issues everywhere, Amsterdam, Palma, Dublin if you go and look, UK press still failing to show it as a Europewide issue.
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WUK is not a shining star of on-time performance.
Don't look at Jet2 at Manchester today, very dim star there as well.
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Old 31st May 2022, 09:14
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Smartwings 737 from Bilbao and ITA airways A319 from Florence mid day today...
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Old 31st May 2022, 09:54
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Originally Posted by pabely
Issues everywhere, Amsterdam, Palma, Dublin if you go and look, UK press still failing to show it as a Europewide issue.
Whilst the issues at Amsterdam and Dublin are down to general staff shortages, the issue at Palma is entirely Brexit related (although by extension it’s also impacting other non-EU arrivals).

For whatever reason the problems largely centre on UK airports and UK-based aircraft.
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Old 31st May 2022, 12:50
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Whilst the issues at Amsterdam and Dublin are down to general staff shortages, the issue at Palma is entirely Brexit related (although by extension it’s also impacting other non-EU arrivals).

For whatever reason the problems largely centre on UK airports and UK-based aircraft.
2/3 of flights in Europe does not = brexit
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022...of-long-queues
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Old 31st May 2022, 12:57
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Originally Posted by pabely
2/3 of flights in Europe does not = brexit
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022...of-long-queues
That story seems to confirm what I said about Brexit being the issue. No Brexit, no need for additional checks, no need for additional officers.
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Old 31st May 2022, 13:15
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For whatever reason the problems largely centre on UK airports and UK-based aircraft.
Brexit may be an additional factor at Palma as you stated, but the article says this:
All over Europe, airports are suffering from horror delays, as many people take overseas holidays for the first time since the onset of the pandemic and airlines struggle to fill staffing shortages. “Pent up demand” is leading to an airline booking surge, explained Olivier Jankovec, Director General of Airlines Council International Europe. “At the moment, the performance of passenger traffic is trending along our high-case optimistic scenario on the back of travel restrictions lifting across many markets,” he said. According to ACI modelling, delays and cancellations are inevitable at two thirds of European airports this summer.
Doubt whether the additional checks needed on the increased number of non-EU pax is that widespread, unexpected demand levels seems a bigger factor



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Old 31st May 2022, 13:37
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I've flown nonstop from the UK to Schengen land over 20 times this year. Immigration in Norway in January asked questions about a return ticket, proof of funds, etc... but Oslo in January when everyone needed a compulsory Covid test on arrival was far from busy and there was capacity in the system to do these immigration checks. Since then, checks on arrival into Schengen seem no different to pre Brexit. That includes arriving in Malaga on a bank holiday Saturday

I would call 100% bullsh*t to anybody who blames post Brexit arrival checks into the EU for UK passport holders as a reason for any problems.
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Old 31st May 2022, 15:54
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I would call 100% bullsh*t to anybody who blames post Brexit arrival checks into the EU for UK passport holders as a reason for any problems.
I would call 100% bullsh*t to anybody who claims the process is no less time consuming than before, having travelled through a range of different entry points. The Covid check argument fails because in my three cases where it was relevant (three different countries, three different requirements) it was carried out independently of immigration check.
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Old 31st May 2022, 16:43
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None of this deserves being on the Luton thread before this decends onto a Brexit argument once again!
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Old 31st May 2022, 21:53
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Brexit is not having nor has it had an impact on Luton. What happens at other airports is irrelevant to this thread but I suspect Brexit will always be used as an excuse for poor service. Covid and people leaving the industry is the real reason after they were made redundant.
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Old 1st Jun 2022, 04:17
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Brexit is not having nor has it had an impact on Luton. What happens at other airports is irrelevant to this thread but I suspect Brexit will always be used as an excuse for poor service. Covid and people leaving the industry is the real reason after they were made redundant.
Hang on a second, I’m fairly certain you were on the record to say that Brexit was directly going to affect LTN as an airport due to the number of flights and passengers from Eastern Europe… primarily those moving to the U.K. to work and live?

Hows that going?
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Old 2nd Jun 2022, 13:40
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Many Luton airport workers have got big pay rising due in part because of Brexit so is seen as a good thing. In 2018/19 security staff had their terms and conditions savaged. Now they have secured £1800 pay rises as cheap labour has dried up. Increased pay has helped Luton avoid what has happened at other airports although people still don’t stay long.

https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-e...-pay-increase/
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