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Old 21st Jul 2023, 06:26
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Just like the Tories, when in power too long power corrupts. The Labour group have been in special measures for two years imposed by the NEC ruling that the local Labour group cannot be trusted yet they run the Town Hall and fill LRT with airport directors. They make Tower Hamlets seem like a well run council.

Eventually they will dig a hole that they can’t get out of and then blame the government. Let’s remember which Council received the largest bailout of any Council in the U.K during Covid because of its airport. The government said that the Council had to be more remote from its airport but now the exact opposite has happened. It is all going to end in tears, maybe not today or tomorrow but the clock is ticking.
Would you expect the Tory party or worse, the Lib Dems to do anything different? The Tories probably would’ve sold the airport off to the highest bidder years ago. If the Libs were in charge, the airport would be lingering around the 10M level and 1000s of people wouldn’t have jobs right now.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 06:46
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Would you expect the Tory party or worse, the Lib Dems to do anything different? The Tories probably would’ve sold the airport off to the highest bidder years ago. If the Libs were in charge, the airport would be lingering around the 10M level and 1000s of people wouldn’t have jobs right now.
You are totally missing the point. There was no political inference, just a comparison of Tory at national level and Labour in Luton are making mistakes through being in power too long.

Of course you are correct in your analysis of the consequences for airport expansion of a LibDem lead government.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 09:34
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There is the question of who is actually pulling the strings, the councillors or the unelected officials operating in the shadows. There is a whole bunch of them including the CEO and the director in charge of finance. He always gives speeches why he is right and the auditors are wrong regarding the airport. It would have been really interesting to hear him last night facing the auditors but the microphones were silenced that avoided public scrutiny and maybe allowing him to keep his job.

As pointed out before, the airport directors are just members of the public who became councillors with no abilities to bring to the table. Maybe that is why they are airport directors, as they have limited intellect and are easily hoodwinked into agreeing to anything put before them. The directors also meet in secret and publish no minutes. If a director did disagree with any policy they are not allowed to say so in public according to the Lib Dem’s who all resigned a few years ago.

Then there is then the chairwoman of LRT, the airport owning company. She was moved to a safe seat at the recent local elections to avoid being kicked off the Council by the voters, as her constituency was under the flight path. In her new safe seat she did not receive a single vote so has no public mandate to serve as a councillor, as no one stood against her.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 15:28
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Luton gets a good rating from CAA https://aviationsourcenews.com/airpo...s-uk-airports/
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 15:39
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In terms of 'accessibility' at least. That is the only measure applied in that report. And all airports have been pretty poor at that.

The CAA aren't measuring the experience for the majority of passengers that don't require extra assistance there.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 15:57
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
Would you expect the Tory party or worse, the Lib Dems to do anything different? The Tories probably would’ve sold the airport off to the highest bidder years ago. If the Libs were in charge, the airport would be lingering around the 10M level and 1000s of people wouldn’t have jobs right now.
I suppose that for any situation you could always hypothesise that it could be worse so on that basis I guess we should accept everything, after all it could be worse, if only in our imaginations.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 16:38
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It is indeed pleasing that the company providing passenger assistance has finally raised its game. For a long time they had a problem recruiting staff so I assume this has been resolved.
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 22:02
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Odd experience upon arriving into Luton this week, I headed to the drop off zone to wait for my pre-booked Taxi, only to be accosted by a gentleman insisting I follow him and he’ll sort me out a Taxi at a better price than what I was paying. I was with my elderly parents so really just wanted to get them home but the guy was quite insistent that I go with him, spending nearly 10 minutes trying to convince me that he can get me a cheaper and better service, even telling me to go to a different area from where my driver was telling me to wait. He had an ID badge but it was turned over and if I’m honest, I was too tired from my flight to have an argument with him but I can imagine non-UK residents following him assuming he’s a legit airport worker. I guess my question is, do I report him to the airport? I have his reg number if the airport need it but I suspect nothing will be done?
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 22:27
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Yes absolutely report him. The airport has a major issue with Asians illegally touting for business. If you had gone with him you and your family would not have been insured, as he was acting as a taxi driver and not a mini cab driver that has to be prebooked.

https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/cr...driving-968114

and another incident

https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/cr...ng-ban-2923047

and another

https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/lu...flee-the-scene
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 22:52
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Thanks, I’ve dropped the Airport an email with the details so hopefully they can get it sorted
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Old 21st Jul 2023, 23:08
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Why are the licenced taxi companies who pay a fee to Luton airport so as to be permitted to pick up at LTN unable to get this resolved themselves ?
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 04:27
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For starters the taxi rank is well away from the drop off area so they can’t see what is going on. Secondly, the undercover drop off area is unmanned. Thirdly, when I witness taxi touting, which I do frequently, there is no one to report it to. Even when I have walked all the way to the terminal, which is a considerable walk, the airport doesn’t have an information desk. Finally, just try finding an airport based policeman when you need one.

The airport police do have plain clothed officers, so people do get arrested but I don’t know how much of a priority the police give this mater.

There is then the issue of how the touts leave the drop off area. If they have spent say an hour looking for a fare that should mean a £50 exit charge. It was the case that they would follow a car closely through the barriers to stop the barrier dropping but I was told this doesn’t happen anymore. If true, that would mean the passenger would have to pick up the cost as well as the illegal fare.

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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 19:06
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Comiso (CIY) showing as a destination on the EasyJet App.
No date availability so is this an error or possible new destination for S24
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 19:09
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Comiso (CIY) showing as a destination on the EasyJet App.
No date availability so is this an error or possible new destination for S24
They have been using Comiso as a diversion airport over the past few days due to the closure of Catania Airport so I suspect if the closure continues then they’ll start shifting flights across on a semi-permanent basis
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 19:12
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Ah Ok thanks.
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Old 22nd Jul 2023, 19:47
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Plenty of internal Italian flights, flights to France & Germany as well. Wizzair also using it. Who knows, if the local services are good and price is right they might be tempted to run services on a regular basis.
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Old 26th Jul 2023, 17:52
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So LBC are objecting to some of the criteria of the DCO even before it begun.
https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/po...change-4232645
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Old 26th Jul 2023, 19:15
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The council pretending they have issues when the application came from the very same council. All part of the plan to claim the airport is at arms length. They will eventually drop their concerns.
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Old 27th Jul 2023, 11:35
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Councils around airport don't seem to be objecting as much as they could https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co....ns-new-8631424
Is now the time to restructure, get them more involved and setup something like MAG so all necessary safeguards are put in place but everyone gets economic benefits, where there is a will.......
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Old 27th Jul 2023, 11:39
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What safeguards would that be. You don’t want any
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