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Old 13th Jul 2023, 10:37
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You have just stated eloquently why Luton should not expand to 32m.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
You have just stated eloquently why Luton should not expand to 32m.
Then you admit battery power is not the answer.
100% SAF is. Perhaps we should build a massive Ethenol bio fuel facility next to every airport because you are not going to stop the expansion in aviation.
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Never said batteries were the answer. In fact it is a ridiculous suggestion, always has been.
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Originally Posted by pabely
Then you admit battery power is not the answer.
100% SAF is. Perhaps we should build a massive Ethenol bio fuel facility next to every airport because you are not going to stop the expansion in aviation.
Feed it on b*ll**** - problem solved
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-b1094106.html

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7.2 crimes per 100,000 at LTN. 0.2 crimes per 100,000 LBA.

That is a mystery - not a cheap shot.
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It appears updated documents have been loaded onto Government Infrastructure Web site
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...ort-expansion/
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Seems to be alot of money for new ceilings, over flooring and bits & bobs....
https://www.theconstructionindex.co....ers/view/14552
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Anyone with their eyes open will know how basic the security area is at Luton. This is another area that has never had a ceiling installed so every pipe, conduit, wire and heating duct is in full view.

The tender is for this type of installation.



The spacing will be critical to hide this mess. Where it has been used already the spacing is too wide to be effective but this seems to be more about sound deadening than aesthetics. At the moment the area looks more like a factory floor than an airport but with plasterboard bulkheads also being installed maybe everything will finally be hidden.


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Anyone with their eyes open will know how basic the security area is at Luton. This is another area that has never had a ceiling installed so every pipe, conduit, wire and heating duct is in full view.

The tender is for this type of installation.



The spacing will be critical to hide this mess. Where it has been used already the spacing is too wide to be effective but this seems to be more about sound deadening than aesthetics. At the moment the area looks more like a factory floor than an airport but with plasterboard bulkheads also being installed maybe everything will finally be hidden.

It’s airport security - it’s supposed to be a production line… i.e. designed to process as many people as possible. It’s a place of necessity. And from what I’ve come across in recent years, quite successfully.
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Contrast Luton with Stansted’s production line. The Dart is a production line but it looks good. Surroundings form part of the subconsciousness, which is why many people consider the town centre to be a dive together with its airport, as they are a matching pair. Considering the amount of money that has been spent on the terminal it would have been only a fraction more to actually give it a better finish or even finish it off, as the airport should be a showcase for the town.

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This was the Luton vision but there was a saving to be made on black spray paint to hide the standout silver so Luton ended up with the photo 2 posts ago. Even this then proposed finish was a poor relation but better than now, as close examination shows the ducting on show but sprayed black.



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June 23 stats out 1,527,712 pax up 14.5% on last year.
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 07:48
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Originally Posted by pabely
June 23 stats out 1,527,712 pax up 14.5% on last year.
Obviously the state of the ceilings not stopping passengers using the Airport in increased numbers.
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Old 14th Jul 2023, 08:14
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Very true but the airport should be raising its game though.

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With 8 days of strikes at Gatwick announced starting the end of July, London’s other airports including Luton will probably pick up passengers who have yet to book, just to be on the safe side.

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Perhaps a temporary waver of the 18m limit should be put in place for any airlines who wish to reschedule services into Luton like Sky Express did during LHR restrictions?
Would be a good gesture to get joe public to their well earned holibobs rather than inflicting missary to thousands with no recourse to get compensation unless they have taken out third party insurance?
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Not needed. Luton won’t reach 18m this year. Also I doubt the airport has the staff to handle more flights apart from the odd random one or two although spare seats on existing flights will fill up.

Those random flights, if permitted, would go to Wizz or Easyjet.
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https://fb.watch/lMVhBFdoML/
Almost as good as being there.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Not needed. Luton won’t reach 18m this year. Also I doubt the airport has the staff to handle more flights apart from the odd random one or two although spare seats on existing flights will fill up.

Those random flights, if permitted, would go to Wizz or Easyjet.
Trouble is Luton doesn't server half the routes which EZY do at LGW. OK will make AMS, EDI, BFS etc busier but what if your holiday was to Corsica or Tunisia - more so if you booked via Easy Holidays!
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