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Why don't you tackle them about it and let us know how you got on rather than posting your grievances on here all the time.
There is a perception, not unreasonable in my view, that some local MPs and business leaders could be a little more active and vocal in helping to promote MAN in the same way that some other airports are in their regions. Whether this arises from complacency (MAN's doing ok thank you so why bother), indifference or hostility, is a matter of conjecture. Perhaps more is going on behind the scenes that is not obvious - I hope it is.
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The same but re worked observations or whatever you want to call it come up constantly. I admire enthusiasm and a desire to question but if those questions are being asked then tell us and what they are and the responses to them.
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I note your location is "In The bar" , hey guess what, we know !
Your last couple of observations are factually incorrect, the last 6 postings refer to items of interest which have referenced Manchester Airport in the media Eg ThebusinessDesk, Travel Weekly, MEN, and the Daily Express, your perception about recycling previous issues is i'm afraid wrong, but as you ask I am happy to give you some guidance.
We do actually have something called an Election on Thursday, if your interest is purely planespotting the usual suspects should move on down the bus now.
There is an opportunity to hold our "local MPs" to account, before they are all shoe horned back in for another 4 years. The Honorable members for Tatton, Wythenshawe, Sale and Blackley will of course carry on much as before, same old, same old, BUT crucially at least we have a last chance to embarrass them via the media, but ONLY if we ask some pertinent questions NOW, before Thursday !
By all means discuss the NHS, economy etc but hang on lets also have a nod to Manchester Airport perhaps thee largest driver of the economy in the North Of England.
There are numerous issues which impact on the airport and this, is thee only opportunity to put down some markers before they all swan off back to Westminster.
Northernpowerhouse hmmmm High on rhetoric low to zero on actual sums of money "if any" !
And as far as I can see not even on Labours radar !
HS3 see above
What about the conveyor belt of funding for projects in the SE signed off with a flourish and not a whiff of criticism from messrs Kane, Stringer etc
APD - North Of The Border. It may or may not effect Manchester, but tell you what, lets not wait and see, and then complain lets find out now, whats on the table.
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Discuss Heathrow and it's "A National Treasure", discuss Manchester and its that "regional airport that serves those plucky Mancunians" ! Enough already.
We wait with bated breath for MAGs expansion plans a topic of considerable interest to every reader of the Manchester thread at least it s/b although clearly some disagree, so wouldn't a nice £1Bn from Government , not a gift but a loan, at exceptionally low rates show at last a willingness and commitment from Westminster to projects "in The North", transformational and quite frankly little more than loose change compared to the billions pouring into London.
AND yes I do appreciate that investment & "the London Effect" keeps us Mancs warm and cosy with subsidies, tax handouts etc why wouldn't it? but if you pour billions into project after project "of course" you will get a ROI, you cannot fail.
Media City demonstrated what can be done, and the economic tsunami in the surrounding area.
You may not agree with their policies but my God at least the SNP MPs put Scotland first and foremost, if only our local MPs just occasionally showed the same glimmer of passion and commitment and represented in tandem with national issues "our views", "our agenda" !
I note your location is "In The bar" , hey guess what, we know !
Your last couple of observations are factually incorrect, the last 6 postings refer to items of interest which have referenced Manchester Airport in the media Eg ThebusinessDesk, Travel Weekly, MEN, and the Daily Express, your perception about recycling previous issues is i'm afraid wrong, but as you ask I am happy to give you some guidance.
We do actually have something called an Election on Thursday, if your interest is purely planespotting the usual suspects should move on down the bus now.
There is an opportunity to hold our "local MPs" to account, before they are all shoe horned back in for another 4 years. The Honorable members for Tatton, Wythenshawe, Sale and Blackley will of course carry on much as before, same old, same old, BUT crucially at least we have a last chance to embarrass them via the media, but ONLY if we ask some pertinent questions NOW, before Thursday !
By all means discuss the NHS, economy etc but hang on lets also have a nod to Manchester Airport perhaps thee largest driver of the economy in the North Of England.
There are numerous issues which impact on the airport and this, is thee only opportunity to put down some markers before they all swan off back to Westminster.
Northernpowerhouse hmmmm High on rhetoric low to zero on actual sums of money "if any" !
And as far as I can see not even on Labours radar !
HS3 see above
What about the conveyor belt of funding for projects in the SE signed off with a flourish and not a whiff of criticism from messrs Kane, Stringer etc
APD - North Of The Border. It may or may not effect Manchester, but tell you what, lets not wait and see, and then complain lets find out now, whats on the table.
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Discuss Heathrow and it's "A National Treasure", discuss Manchester and its that "regional airport that serves those plucky Mancunians" ! Enough already.
We wait with bated breath for MAGs expansion plans a topic of considerable interest to every reader of the Manchester thread at least it s/b although clearly some disagree, so wouldn't a nice £1Bn from Government , not a gift but a loan, at exceptionally low rates show at last a willingness and commitment from Westminster to projects "in The North", transformational and quite frankly little more than loose change compared to the billions pouring into London.
AND yes I do appreciate that investment & "the London Effect" keeps us Mancs warm and cosy with subsidies, tax handouts etc why wouldn't it? but if you pour billions into project after project "of course" you will get a ROI, you cannot fail.
Media City demonstrated what can be done, and the economic tsunami in the surrounding area.
You may not agree with their policies but my God at least the SNP MPs put Scotland first and foremost, if only our local MPs just occasionally showed the same glimmer of passion and commitment and represented in tandem with national issues "our views", "our agenda" !
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My location is irrelevant and I am not a spotter.
Please share your concerns observations or whatever you want to call them as they can be very interesting but you do use this forum as your soap box regularly.
I don't run this site nor do I want to stiffle discussion but would it not be better to tell us the questions you have actually put to the various organisations/individuals and what the responses have actually been?
I don't disagree with many of the issues you bring up but it is the same old stuff over and over.
Please share your concerns observations or whatever you want to call them as they can be very interesting but you do use this forum as your soap box regularly.
I don't run this site nor do I want to stiffle discussion but would it not be better to tell us the questions you have actually put to the various organisations/individuals and what the responses have actually been?
I don't disagree with many of the issues you bring up but it is the same old stuff over and over.
My location is irrelevant and I am not a spotter.
Please share your concerns observations or whatever you want to call them as they can be very interesting but you do use this forum as your soap box regularly.
I don't run this site nor do I want to stifle discussion but would it not be better to tell us the questions you have actually put to the various organisations/individuals and what the responses have actually been?
I don't disagree with many of the issues you bring up but it is the same old stuff over and over.
Please share your concerns observations or whatever you want to call them as they can be very interesting but you do use this forum as your soap box regularly.
I don't run this site nor do I want to stifle discussion but would it not be better to tell us the questions you have actually put to the various organisations/individuals and what the responses have actually been?
I don't disagree with many of the issues you bring up but it is the same old stuff over and over.
Obviously the Mods. will make their decision, but if I see the last posting being being one of the usual suspects I assume that it's another spleen venting and don't even open the thread up! Which is of course my decision, but most other threads don't take this path.
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Yes, here's the link to the M.E.N article.
Manchester Airport to get direct flights to Los Angeles and Boston with Thomas Cook - Manchester Evening News
Well done TCX and congratulations to MAN. I imagine very competitive fares will attract business from a wider catchment area which is evidently the aim.
Manchester Airport to get direct flights to Los Angeles and Boston with Thomas Cook - Manchester Evening News
Well done TCX and congratulations to MAN. I imagine very competitive fares will attract business from a wider catchment area which is evidently the aim.
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And here's the link
Manchester Airport to get direct flights to Los Angeles and Boston with Thomas Cook - Manchester Evening News
Also guarantees Thos Cook growth at other MAG airports.
So disproving the ridiculous blanket statement
As many people have said, lots of lobbying and influencing goes on away from the public gaze and so it should. I've seen things go horribly wrong in this business when something is leaked to the public and the other party has taken their bat and ball away. Just because some on here don't see anything going on in the press and social media doesn't mean nothing is happening.
The Airport seems to be doing pretty well nowadays; no doubt it could do some things better, but hey you could say that of any organisation.
Manchester Airport to get direct flights to Los Angeles and Boston with Thomas Cook - Manchester Evening News
Also guarantees Thos Cook growth at other MAG airports.
So disproving the ridiculous blanket statement
By contrast what a totally inept bunch we have in our region supposedly involved in ManAirport and the associated transport issues and infastructure !
The Airport seems to be doing pretty well nowadays; no doubt it could do some things better, but hey you could say that of any organisation.
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If flybe is to be a growing feeder service for TCX flights from MAN, I hope transfers from T3 to T1 and vice versa will be made as hassle free as possible.
(Until that much rumoured new terminal infrastructure is in place of course!).
(Until that much rumoured new terminal infrastructure is in place of course!).
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Good news indeed 
Does anyone know whether this is BOS (ie Logan) or is it Providence RI - which was rumoured to be in the frame at one time?
Also, having flown TCX across the Atlantic on a seat only basis, I found it damned hard to buy a Premium seat, the reason given was that they are reserved for people buying a premium package with Thomas Cook.
We got PE in the end but only after a lot of pfaffing - basically I was saying 'dear Thomas Cook, I would like to give you some more money' and they didn't seem to understand
FWIW - the PE product on the A330 was actually pretty decent and I'd use it again if it was easy to purchase.
I really think they need to change that policy if they are going to maximize the market. There are plenty like me that won't do Economy on a long-haul flight.
Does anyone know whether this is BOS (ie Logan) or is it Providence RI - which was rumoured to be in the frame at one time?
Also, having flown TCX across the Atlantic on a seat only basis, I found it damned hard to buy a Premium seat, the reason given was that they are reserved for people buying a premium package with Thomas Cook.
We got PE in the end but only after a lot of pfaffing - basically I was saying 'dear Thomas Cook, I would like to give you some more money' and they didn't seem to understand
FWIW - the PE product on the A330 was actually pretty decent and I'd use it again if it was easy to purchase.
I really think they need to change that policy if they are going to maximize the market. There are plenty like me that won't do Economy on a long-haul flight.
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I really think they need to change that policy if they are going to maximize the market. There are plenty like me that won't do Economy on a long-haul flight.
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So with TCX advertising BE as feeding longhaul are we likely to see retimed domestics to properly feed the longhauls as well as extra capacity and or rotations to help feed TCX ?
It's a lot of seats to fill but I'd thomas cook can package regional connections with TCX longhaul from the likes of NQY, EXT, SOU, BOH, EDI etc it should work well.
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It's a lot of seats to fill but I'd thomas cook can package regional connections with TCX longhaul from the likes of NQY, EXT, SOU, BOH, EDI etc it should work well.
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Tommy Cook have had a tie up with FlyBe for a while as this old press release shows
http://www.thomascook.com/press-cent...aign=affilinet
http://www.thomascook.com/press-cent...aign=affilinet
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Really interested to see if Boston will be a successful service. Outside Shannon and Munich they have no secondary EU airports. Then again if twice weekly cant work its worrying.
Not sure the Flybe/TCX so called "hub" will work for two main reasons TCX pricing not competitive and low frequency. You need 4-7 weekly for such operations.
Not sure the Flybe/TCX so called "hub" will work for two main reasons TCX pricing not competitive and low frequency. You need 4-7 weekly for such operations.
I always like seeing a business make a ballsy move like this, why launch one new route when you can launch 4?
TCX don't operate in Ireland, but my perception of them has always been that when they sell just the seat on the plane and not a full package, they aim for the lower budget segment I.E. if you're looking for a cheap economy or premium economy fare you go to them but if you want to sit up the front you go elsewhere?
Obviously trans Atlantic services are growing massively across Europe, due to a strong dollar making it easier for American tourists to visit, and cheaper fuel allowing older widebodies to serve routes that otherwise might not be viable, but what I'm asking in a very roundabout way is, even with all this growth in demand, will both DL and AA remain on JFK with 6 Kestrels a week to contend with? The A330 is more fuel efficient and larger than the U.S. offerings, allowing cheaper fares.
Would be interested to hear others' thoughts.
TCX don't operate in Ireland, but my perception of them has always been that when they sell just the seat on the plane and not a full package, they aim for the lower budget segment I.E. if you're looking for a cheap economy or premium economy fare you go to them but if you want to sit up the front you go elsewhere?
Obviously trans Atlantic services are growing massively across Europe, due to a strong dollar making it easier for American tourists to visit, and cheaper fuel allowing older widebodies to serve routes that otherwise might not be viable, but what I'm asking in a very roundabout way is, even with all this growth in demand, will both DL and AA remain on JFK with 6 Kestrels a week to contend with? The A330 is more fuel efficient and larger than the U.S. offerings, allowing cheaper fares.
Would be interested to hear others' thoughts.
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Great news indeed. I do hope the flights do well and that this might bring a boost to Manchester and bring an increase in hubbing passengers.
As the "debate" over a new runway in the SE continues flybee has an excellent chance to provide a feed to long haul out of Manchester. If this works it could be really good news indeed. Hopefully it could also kickstart some much needed projects (mainly terminal development) which will be needed in order to keep growing (dare I mention the airline beginning with an H?).
As the "debate" over a new runway in the SE continues flybee has an excellent chance to provide a feed to long haul out of Manchester. If this works it could be really good news indeed. Hopefully it could also kickstart some much needed projects (mainly terminal development) which will be needed in order to keep growing (dare I mention the airline beginning with an H?).
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even with all this growth in demand, will both DL and AA remain on JFK with 6 Kestrels a week to contend with?
I actually think Aer Lingus from MAN will be the ones to loose out on this news.
They have traditionally done well with connecting passengers from MAN to the USA, and most of that has been down to price (MAN-DUB-USA on EI is usually significantly cheaper than pretty much any other alternative).
The fact that TCX is now opening up so much of the USA with very very competative prices means tht they ay just take the cream from what EI offers.
Sure, frequency will be in issue for some, but, as we have now seen with JFK and TCX offering a near daily schedule to JFK, 8 weekly of MCO and near daily to LAS, who is to say TCX will not do the same to BOS/LAX/MIA if they prove successful?
DL is tied in with VS, so will no doubt have virgin holidays behind it, and AA has the BA JV which is proving very popular for frequent flier points (even though some are disgruntled that the scheme is getting poor value for money now). Therefore, I don't think these 2 will suffer, but EI and its connections will (in fact I would not be at all surprised to see a price fightback, and, if it does happen backs this up).
Just the fact that even as little as 2 years ago, to say MAN would have direct flights to 6 pretty decent airports in the USA from TCX would have got you laughed off the forum, means this news is pretty big and Im hopeful TCX have done their homework. The fact JFK is doubling already despite AA/DL shows that they have indeed done said homework.