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Any idea what time of day, Lax?
It's a bit quiet round about 3 ish. Could do with a quick transit check.
It's a bit quiet round about 3 ish. Could do with a quick transit check.
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This is why why I think we should all say hats of to Lax-Lhr!
Always the first for news!
Keep it up mate !
Ps: Ignore the bullsugar!
Also I don't think times and dates have been set in stone or have they?
Always the first for news!
Keep it up mate !
Ps: Ignore the bullsugar!
Also I don't think times and dates have been set in stone or have they?
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Jim O?Neill is the right man to kickstart Northern powerhouse - Telegraph
"...forget the airport commission, be bold build a World Class Airport in the North"
And amazeballs .....
it's in The Telegraph !
More credibility (if credibility it is) and national exposure in "1 day" than we have had in years !
At last the charismatic lead we need !
My man is kicking ass already !
"...forget the airport commission, be bold build a World Class Airport in the North"
And amazeballs .....
it's in The Telegraph !
More credibility (if credibility it is) and national exposure in "1 day" than we have had in years !
At last the charismatic lead we need !
My man is kicking ass already !
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Twenty hundred hours!!!
Well, that's that blown then, no easy late shifts any more.
Well, that's that blown then, no easy late shifts any more.
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TURIN
The BHX flights is scheduled to arrive at 18.00 and out 21.30 in summer and one hour earlier in winter.
The BHX service pretty much hit the ground running and only affected the Turkmenistan loads and I don't think EK noticed much difference.
However even at BHX the Turkmenistan loads eventually recovered and March was fantastic for AI, EK and T5.
Obviously there is nothing in the public domain about yields but there again we are talking about Air India
and that subject has been done to death.
The BHX service I believe came to light by a tender for handling on the AI sight and even then some didn't believe it.
13425 carried on the Delhi in March at BHX, which is pretty impressive and only natural that Manchester has appeared on the radar although BHX does have a helping hand with the VFR traffic.
sarah19981 - First on this site but rumoured on a BHX site weeks ago but nobody could supply a link (Hence why Nigel Asked) which was a bit odd.
Pete
The BHX flights is scheduled to arrive at 18.00 and out 21.30 in summer and one hour earlier in winter.
The BHX service pretty much hit the ground running and only affected the Turkmenistan loads and I don't think EK noticed much difference.
However even at BHX the Turkmenistan loads eventually recovered and March was fantastic for AI, EK and T5.
Obviously there is nothing in the public domain about yields but there again we are talking about Air India
and that subject has been done to death.The BHX service I believe came to light by a tender for handling on the AI sight and even then some didn't believe it.
13425 carried on the Delhi in March at BHX, which is pretty impressive and only natural that Manchester has appeared on the radar although BHX does have a helping hand with the VFR traffic.
sarah19981 - First on this site but rumoured on a BHX site weeks ago but nobody could supply a link (Hence why Nigel Asked) which was a bit odd.
Pete
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The route is to DEL and with Air India its best not to consider it 'confirmed' until the tickets ar on sale.
Behind the scenes seems to be good to go. Ground handling contracts signed, Hotels chosen, Terminal assigned (T2 as you would expect) and slots aquired.
The route is to DEL and with Air India its best not to consider it 'confirmed' until the tickets ar on sale.
Behind the scenes seems to be good to go. Ground handling contracts signed, Hotels chosen, Terminal assigned (T2 as you would expect) and slots aquired.
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With thanks to David itl. for this link on A.net: (hope it works)
Interactive: Emirates’ new destinations from 1985 to 2015 | The National
If you click on Top 10 destinatioons, MAN comes 9th, ahead of Paris.
LHR is 1st and Bangkok 2nd. I wonder if EK still carries a lot of MAN pax connecting to BKK as was certainly the case some years ago.
With thanks to David itl. for this link on A.net: (hope it works)
Interactive: Emirates’ new destinations from 1985 to 2015 | The National
If you click on Top 10 destinatioons, MAN comes 9th, ahead of Paris.
LHR is 1st and Bangkok 2nd. I wonder if EK still carries a lot of MAN pax connecting to BKK as was certainly the case some years ago.
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Booming Salford: Three major projects to provide luxury apartments and a 16-storey hotel get the go-ahead - Manchester Evening News
Third item Chinese hotel for tourists gets go ahead in Eccles.
Hopefully the airport and Cathay are in discussion with Omega Travel in order to utilise round robin trips but arriving in Manchester !
Third item Chinese hotel for tourists gets go ahead in Eccles.
Hopefully the airport and Cathay are in discussion with Omega Travel in order to utilise round robin trips but arriving in Manchester !
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CAA data is out. Provisional of course.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...Statistics.pdf
22,327,701 rolling total with +1.6% in month (note Easter) and +6.7% rolling total increase. Interestingly, MAN had a lower rate of growth than the average of all airports combined for the first time in a long time that I can remember and it had a lower percentage growth than a number of nearby airports such as Liverpool and Leeds/Brad.
DXB - 72,418 +4% in the context of our 9th place in their rankings.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...Statistics.pdf
22,327,701 rolling total with +1.6% in month (note Easter) and +6.7% rolling total increase. Interestingly, MAN had a lower rate of growth than the average of all airports combined for the first time in a long time that I can remember and it had a lower percentage growth than a number of nearby airports such as Liverpool and Leeds/Brad.
DXB - 72,418 +4% in the context of our 9th place in their rankings.
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CAA Provisional Stats April
CX I reckon had 34 flights in April, so an average load of 299. This is a LF of 87.8%, which has been pretty consistent now for 3 months.
Saudi averaged 190 per flight, QR 219, EY 271 and EK 402. Assuming EK used the 3 class B777 on all morning flights, it's about 86% LF.
For the US flights, UA had similar pax numbers to April 2014, which was a LF of 93%
VS to ATL averaged 216 per flight which is just over 80% LF on 266 seats.
(an increase of 31% vs DL in 2014)
PHL was disappointing with a 17% decrease and average load of 182, a LF of 72%. I hope they manage to fill most of those 20 J class seats at good prices.
Average Loads assume of course that all flights operated.
CX I reckon had 34 flights in April, so an average load of 299. This is a LF of 87.8%, which has been pretty consistent now for 3 months.
Saudi averaged 190 per flight, QR 219, EY 271 and EK 402. Assuming EK used the 3 class B777 on all morning flights, it's about 86% LF.
For the US flights, UA had similar pax numbers to April 2014, which was a LF of 93%
VS to ATL averaged 216 per flight which is just over 80% LF on 266 seats.
(an increase of 31% vs DL in 2014)
PHL was disappointing with a 17% decrease and average load of 182, a LF of 72%. I hope they manage to fill most of those 20 J class seats at good prices.
Average Loads assume of course that all flights operated.
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RYANAIR @ MAN: State of Play
This posting will take an in-depth look at Ryanair's Summer 2015 programme ex-MAN, compare with Summer 2014 equivalent, and then repeat the exercise for Winter 2015/16 versus Winter 2014/15. For the Summer period, programmes at four airports with catchments overlapping MAN will also be compared. So ... you have been warned! If this topic does not interest you, skip directly to the next post. Don't whinge later if you choose to stay with us.
I consider the Ryanair programme to be a key indicator of progress at MAN, as this airline has not only been vital to MAN's growth over recent seasons but is also an important factor at four neighbouring airports competing directly with MAN. Changes in Ryanair's distribution of services between the five airports analysed here impacts passenger flows at all of them.
MANCHESTER - Summer 2015 - Based on August peak week:
218 Departures per week. 41202 return seats offered.
436 Movements per week. 82404 seats total.
Four destinations dropped from S14: BRE PFO REU TPS [Total 10 flights pw]
Four destinations new to S15: STR (6) CHQ (2) SNN (7) EIN (4)
Total destinations served from MAN S15: 36
EAST MIDLANDS - Summer 2015 - Same week:
164 Departures per week. 30996 return seats offered.
328 Movements per week. 61992 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from EMA not available ex-MAN:
EGC CCF DNR LRH LIG SXF RHO NOC PSA MLA TSF LCJ WRO MAH
35 destinations served in total.
LIVERPOOL - Summer 2015 - Same week:
130 Departures per week. 24570 return seats offered.
260 Movements per week. 49140 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from LPL not available ex-MAN:
EGC CCF LIG FNI KGS RHO ORK NOC PSA VNO MLA POZ SZZ WRO OPO BTS LDY
30 destinations served in total.
Curiosity: LPL offers services to Oslo Torp 2 or 3 pw except during August. Suspended for Scandinavian holiday season? Not counted in numbers, as aircraft presumably redeploys to boost a sunshine route.
BIRMINGHAM - Summer 2015 - Same week:
98 Departures per week. 18522 return seats offered.
196 Movements per week. 37044 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from BHX not available ex-MAN:
PGF KUN MLA BZG BTS KTW
20 destinations served in total.
LEEDS-BRADFORD - Summer 2015 - Same week:
73 Departures per week. 13797 return seats offered.
146 Movements per week. 27594 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from LBA not available ex-MAN:
DNR LIG MPL PSA TSF MLA
21 destinations served in total.
Verdict: MAN is in pole-position but has no room for complacency. If MAN cannot provide sufficient stand access to support RYR expansion at T3, not only will MAN lose out but direct competitors stand to benefit. Of course, MAG could be quite content to see EMA benefit anyway as an in-house airport. Upgrading stands 56 / 57 / 58 to enable RYR 25-minute turnarounds would be really helpful. Given a 10 year timescale for the main terminals redevelopment with T2 likely to be first in line, a short-term fix to boost T3 appears essential.
MANCHESTER Winter 2015/16 based upon a week in mid-February shows 137 departures per week to 25 destinations. This compares to 122 departures per week to 24 destinations in the equivalent week a year earlier. Stuttgart (continued from Summer) is the new destination. The programme has a "final" look about it, but there is still time for RYR to surprise us with a late announcement. 15 extra rotations per week is quite a decent rise anyway if nothing more transpires. Note that Bremen returns for Winter season ... this route was dropped for Summer 2015 but did operate last Winter.
MAN remains weak on its offering to destinations in regional France compared to Summer programmes from nearby airports. Services to traditional weak-spot Poland are running at 9 departures per week (Summer) rising to 10 departures per week (Winter) covering four destinations: WMI KRK GDN RZE. Gradually improving, though some neighbouring airports have Wizzair services in the mix as well as Ryanair programmes. Eastern Europe generally and Regional France (Summer season) are areas which MAG should encourage in future discussions with Ryanair.
I hope afew of you found this of some interest. I'm sure I'll be hearing very soon from those who didn't but who themselves never post anything except complaints about regular contributors!
I will do a similar exercise covering EasyJet if I can find time over the next few days.
I consider the Ryanair programme to be a key indicator of progress at MAN, as this airline has not only been vital to MAN's growth over recent seasons but is also an important factor at four neighbouring airports competing directly with MAN. Changes in Ryanair's distribution of services between the five airports analysed here impacts passenger flows at all of them.
MANCHESTER - Summer 2015 - Based on August peak week:
218 Departures per week. 41202 return seats offered.
436 Movements per week. 82404 seats total.
Four destinations dropped from S14: BRE PFO REU TPS [Total 10 flights pw]
Four destinations new to S15: STR (6) CHQ (2) SNN (7) EIN (4)
Total destinations served from MAN S15: 36
EAST MIDLANDS - Summer 2015 - Same week:
164 Departures per week. 30996 return seats offered.
328 Movements per week. 61992 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from EMA not available ex-MAN:
EGC CCF DNR LRH LIG SXF RHO NOC PSA MLA TSF LCJ WRO MAH
35 destinations served in total.
LIVERPOOL - Summer 2015 - Same week:
130 Departures per week. 24570 return seats offered.
260 Movements per week. 49140 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from LPL not available ex-MAN:
EGC CCF LIG FNI KGS RHO ORK NOC PSA VNO MLA POZ SZZ WRO OPO BTS LDY
30 destinations served in total.
Curiosity: LPL offers services to Oslo Torp 2 or 3 pw except during August. Suspended for Scandinavian holiday season? Not counted in numbers, as aircraft presumably redeploys to boost a sunshine route.
BIRMINGHAM - Summer 2015 - Same week:
98 Departures per week. 18522 return seats offered.
196 Movements per week. 37044 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from BHX not available ex-MAN:
PGF KUN MLA BZG BTS KTW
20 destinations served in total.
LEEDS-BRADFORD - Summer 2015 - Same week:
73 Departures per week. 13797 return seats offered.
146 Movements per week. 27594 total seats offered.
Summer destinations offered by RYR from LBA not available ex-MAN:
DNR LIG MPL PSA TSF MLA
21 destinations served in total.
Verdict: MAN is in pole-position but has no room for complacency. If MAN cannot provide sufficient stand access to support RYR expansion at T3, not only will MAN lose out but direct competitors stand to benefit. Of course, MAG could be quite content to see EMA benefit anyway as an in-house airport. Upgrading stands 56 / 57 / 58 to enable RYR 25-minute turnarounds would be really helpful. Given a 10 year timescale for the main terminals redevelopment with T2 likely to be first in line, a short-term fix to boost T3 appears essential.
MANCHESTER Winter 2015/16 based upon a week in mid-February shows 137 departures per week to 25 destinations. This compares to 122 departures per week to 24 destinations in the equivalent week a year earlier. Stuttgart (continued from Summer) is the new destination. The programme has a "final" look about it, but there is still time for RYR to surprise us with a late announcement. 15 extra rotations per week is quite a decent rise anyway if nothing more transpires. Note that Bremen returns for Winter season ... this route was dropped for Summer 2015 but did operate last Winter.
MAN remains weak on its offering to destinations in regional France compared to Summer programmes from nearby airports. Services to traditional weak-spot Poland are running at 9 departures per week (Summer) rising to 10 departures per week (Winter) covering four destinations: WMI KRK GDN RZE. Gradually improving, though some neighbouring airports have Wizzair services in the mix as well as Ryanair programmes. Eastern Europe generally and Regional France (Summer season) are areas which MAG should encourage in future discussions with Ryanair.
I hope afew of you found this of some interest. I'm sure I'll be hearing very soon from those who didn't but who themselves never post anything except complaints about regular contributors!
I will do a similar exercise covering EasyJet if I can find time over the next few days.
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Really interesting analysis......
Out of curiosity of the summer destinations offered by RYR from EMA not available ex-MAN which of these
EGC CCF DNR LRH LIG SXF RHO NOC PSA MLA TSF LCJ WRO MAH VLC
.....are not served by competitor airlines from MAN or Liverpool and therefore should theoretically provide scope for development ?
Out of curiosity of the summer destinations offered by RYR from EMA not available ex-MAN which of these
EGC CCF DNR LRH LIG SXF RHO NOC PSA MLA TSF LCJ WRO MAH VLC
.....are not served by competitor airlines from MAN or Liverpool and therefore should theoretically provide scope for development ?
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Its also worth noting that analysis by anna.aero shows MAN is now the 12th largest Ryanair base by seat volume.
Not a bad feat considering we were relatively 'late' to the based party.
And a side note, VLC (Valencia) has not been dropped Shed, its still going Mon/Fri. Bremen will make a return in winter, which is a positive considering it was widely believed to have made way for STR.
Lastly, while not served by Ryanair, I consider PSA/RHO/TXL/MLA served well enough to not require Ryanair jumping on the route.
Not a bad feat considering we were relatively 'late' to the based party.
And a side note, VLC (Valencia) has not been dropped Shed, its still going Mon/Fri. Bremen will make a return in winter, which is a positive considering it was widely believed to have made way for STR.
Lastly, while not served by Ryanair, I consider PSA/RHO/TXL/MLA served well enough to not require Ryanair jumping on the route.
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RYANAIR @ MAN: State of Play
It's certainly of interest to me.
From the ACL, start of summer 2015 report, it would appear Ryanair is providing about 8% more seats, which in the context of MAN's total of only 1.3% extra seats is quite impressive. 5 routes dropped though is disappointing. Your picture of Winter with an additional 15 rotations in a week in February is equivalent to a 12% increase on the 122 weekly rotations last winter, which again is encouraging.
However, your point about the need for expansion of T3 is well made, and although I understand there are now more immigration desks (if manned), comments on here suggest that facilities in the terminal leave a lot to be desired at busy times along with the need for extra stands to facilitate 25 minute turn-rounds.
The number of destinations available from LPL and not MAN is perhaps indicative if MAN's reluctance to embrace the Locos for so long. Of course, some of those destinations are served by other carriers from MAN, but nevertheless you rightly point out that French provincial cities are not well served, nor are we flush with Polish routes, so therein lies a challenge.
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T3 Immigration Queue Management
On the T3 immigration queue issue, a bit of anecdotal observation. Last week, I arrived at T3 on the fourth of four Ryanair flights landing in a short space of time. My flight from Gdansk appeared to have just three empty seats, and as these were located alongside each other (before opportunists relocated) I suspect they were allocated to a no-show party rather than being unsold. The other three Ryanairs were from Barcelona, Palma and Rome Ciampino - so likely to be full or thereabouts also. The immigration queue supported this assumption.
I have arrived to such queues in T3 before, but there was a marked difference on this occasion. Three staff were allocated specifically to manage the queue. The first one directed customers into EU / Non-EU queues, segregated people travelling with ID cards from those with passports, and periodically held up a huge diagram of a passport cover showing how to identify whether it was chipped.
The second staff member patrolled the junction at which arriving passengers split into queues for the e-gates (chipped passports) or staffed immigration desks (old-style passports, ID cards). He periodically drew attention to a short film showing on overhead TV monitors which explained how to use the e-gates. He also injected some humour to keep the crowds in a positive mood. "The e-gates will recognise you unless you've spent afew grand on plastic surgery whilst you were away!"
Finally, a lady supervised the e-gates themselves (about five of them - all working). She helped the less-able passengers navigate the procedure. She also troubleshooted any problems and redirected any unobliging passports to staffed desks. All regular desks appeared to be staffed, though my view of these was partially obscured.
The result was that from the aircraft arriving on gate to me being outside T3 landside took exactly 20 minutes. I timed it ... I'm sad like that! And my start-point was close to the back of a RYR B738, not the optimal location for a quick getaway (although the rear steps helped).
I was actually very impressed by the way the whole system worked (well done staff). This was a considerable improvement over previous arrivals at busy times. Are MAG operating a similar queue-management system in T1 and T2? Anybody know? Money well-spent if so.
BTW, my outbound trip five days previously navigated security with no queueing of consequence. About five minutes from start to finish. A slightly less busy time though, my steed being the Sun-Air J328 to Billund well after the first wave of Ryanairs had departed. Afew AAL pax in the mix by then, however.
I have arrived to such queues in T3 before, but there was a marked difference on this occasion. Three staff were allocated specifically to manage the queue. The first one directed customers into EU / Non-EU queues, segregated people travelling with ID cards from those with passports, and periodically held up a huge diagram of a passport cover showing how to identify whether it was chipped.
The second staff member patrolled the junction at which arriving passengers split into queues for the e-gates (chipped passports) or staffed immigration desks (old-style passports, ID cards). He periodically drew attention to a short film showing on overhead TV monitors which explained how to use the e-gates. He also injected some humour to keep the crowds in a positive mood. "The e-gates will recognise you unless you've spent afew grand on plastic surgery whilst you were away!"
Finally, a lady supervised the e-gates themselves (about five of them - all working). She helped the less-able passengers navigate the procedure. She also troubleshooted any problems and redirected any unobliging passports to staffed desks. All regular desks appeared to be staffed, though my view of these was partially obscured.
The result was that from the aircraft arriving on gate to me being outside T3 landside took exactly 20 minutes. I timed it ... I'm sad like that! And my start-point was close to the back of a RYR B738, not the optimal location for a quick getaway (although the rear steps helped).
I was actually very impressed by the way the whole system worked (well done staff). This was a considerable improvement over previous arrivals at busy times. Are MAG operating a similar queue-management system in T1 and T2? Anybody know? Money well-spent if so.
BTW, my outbound trip five days previously navigated security with no queueing of consequence. About five minutes from start to finish. A slightly less busy time though, my steed being the Sun-Air J328 to Billund well after the first wave of Ryanairs had departed. Afew AAL pax in the mix by then, however.