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LTNman 23rd Nov 2014 10:44

MANCHESTER 1
 
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LAX_LHR 23rd Nov 2014 14:57

To start off the news, Air Canada Rouge seems to be bookable all the way into November 2015 (as far in advance as you can go at present).

Its still 5 weekly into Nov too, and by comparason, EDI, the other UK rouge route, is only bookable until 16th Oct.

By going into Nov thus far, MAN certainly has the potential to be year round for rouge!

cornishsimon 23rd Nov 2014 15:25

Anyone have any ideas what flybe will look like for summer15 at MAN once the final schedules have been released ?

pwalhx 23rd Nov 2014 16:25

I believe the 9th Easyjet aircraft has been confirmed as an A320 but have the 3 further routes below actually been confirmed:

Split
Santiago de Compostela
Paris CDG

Also elsewhere it has been mooted that Ryanair wish to up their based aircraft to 10 for next summer, does this have any foundation in fact?

Thanks.

MANFOD 23rd Nov 2014 17:15

Re Ryanair, I think the same poster suggested there would definitely be 8 based a/c next summer, which would be one more than this year, but wondered whether capacity constraints at T3 might be an issue. Maybe the extra immigration desks and e-passport machines to be installed are in response to proposed expansion by Ryanair.

Jamie2k9 23rd Nov 2014 17:18

An additional 3 based FR aircraft is unlikely given the constraints on the fleet which will be similar to this year even with new aircraft. It could happen over school holidays but unlikely for full season.

LAX_LHR 23rd Nov 2014 17:32

Last I heard they were going to continue parking the AA widebodies on T1 next summer, and bus them over to T3 (in return for AA paying less fees). That would give a 2 stands for Ryanair, but, can T3 as a whole cope? Probably not.

eggc 23rd Nov 2014 18:22

CX
 
Loads in all classes "excellent", in some cases full, well into new year. Cargo doing very well too apparently. Looking good for CX @ MAN. Will not be long before this is daily IMO.

eye2eye5 23rd Nov 2014 19:05

T3
 
I hate to sound like a snob, but SURELY AA long haul passengers deserve a better deal than being parked on T1 and bussed to T3 in order to accommodate Ryanair "cheap as chips" passengers. It sounds like the economics of the madhouse.

LAX_LHR 23rd Nov 2014 19:24

Many Turkish Airlines flights over the Christmas/New Year period are using the A330, including 2-5th Jan which is double daily A330 operation.

Skipness One Echo 23rd Nov 2014 20:40

Why not just move AA back to T2.....being co-located with BA is an ideal over a practicality any day of the week. There are actually people who prefer using MAN-LHR-USA to fly on a B777 rather than the ancient product on the MAN offering, bussing will only drive that minority into a bigger one. Virgin tried bussing at T2, it's a classic false economy.

Speaking of Air Canada Rouge, is it launching early as was exclusively er....reported or not?

Btw "Manchester 1". Seriously? A typo for ten surely, my OCD is going mental.

Shed-on-a-Pole 23rd Nov 2014 21:35

MEN Article - Airports Policy Latest
 
Manchester City Council leader Sir Richard Leese has slammed "desperate" solicitations by LHR to persuade Manchester Chamber of Commerce to organise an event garnering support for expansion at LHR. He puts a forceful case for greater use of MAN instead, and suggests asking London Chamber of Commerce to host an event promoting Manchester Airport! Meanwhile, MP Graham Stringer comes out in support of LHR expansion and claims that [MAN CEO] Charlie Cornish's stance on the topic is "a mistake".

Plenty of fireworks and colourful quotes in the full article to be found on the MEN website.

I see that the new PPRuNe MAN thread has already notched up 1348 views in under 11 hours so far. We can't be all bad! Hopefully, the site advertisers will be pleased.

Fairdealfrank 23rd Nov 2014 21:58


Manchester City Council leader Sir Richard Leese has slammed "desperate" solicitations by LHR to persuade Manchester Chamber of Commerce to organise an event garnering support for expansion at LHR. He puts a forceful case for greater use of MAN instead, and suggests asking London Chamber of Commerce to host an event promoting Manchester Airport! Meanwhile, MP Graham Stringer comes out in support of LHR expansion and claims that [MAN CEO] Charlie Cornish's stance on the topic is "a mistake".
Would imagine that Blackley and Broughton MP, Graham Stringer, is taking the wider view.

As a member of the Transport Select Committee he must have seen reams of paperwork, heard hours of evidence, and interviewed many in the aviation industry so can be expected to have a reasonable grasp of the issues.

Maybe he should be listened to?

The Transport Select Committee came out in favour of Heathrow expansion long before the Airports Commission was set up and the issue kicked into the long grass.

MKY661 23rd Nov 2014 22:04


Btw "Manchester 1". Seriously?
It was said on the last thread it was to be named MANCHETSTER - 1 by the mods :ok:

MANFOD 24th Nov 2014 08:16

FDF "As a member of the Transport Select Committee he must have seen reams of paperwork, heard hours of evidence, and interviewed many in the aviation industry so can be expected to have a reasonable grasp of the issues". (apologies for not managing proper quote)

A fair point, but what's disappointing is that Mr Stringer, in criticising Charlie Cornish, appeared not to take the opportunity of stating that expansion at LHR needn't be at the expense of MAN which can grow in its own right, if he believes that to be the case. If that isn't his view, then coming from a Manchester MP, it is a little worrying.

The other aspect though is that if all the MPs on the Select Committee signed up to the report (even if there were any dissenters), it would be difficult for Stringer to change his tune now. At least with STN out of the equation, MAN is making its view heard.

TURIN 24th Nov 2014 18:49


Why not just move AA back to T2.....being co-located with BA is an ideal over a practicality any day of the week.
T2??:confused:

Skipness One Echo 24th Nov 2014 19:40

As in the terminal built expressely for long haul wide bodies.

TURIN 24th Nov 2014 19:54

Nope, you've lost me skippy. How will that help BA(oneworld) customers?

Skipness One Echo 24th Nov 2014 20:09

It won't that's my point. The hassle of being co-located in T3 with Oneworld partners who supply a handful of daily connnections and mean other passengers have additional screenings for domestic flights is outweighed by the benefits of AA moving (back) to a proper long haul facility. They're going to bus AA passengers to T1? Outwith hubs and focus cities, of which MAN is neither for this Alliance, co-location often sees little benefit.

TURIN 24th Nov 2014 20:16

Erm, I think they're only using T1 while the taxiway repairs are carried out.


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