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Last summer United operated 6 daily flights to Newark from Heathow and this year will only be operating only 5 daily flights. That must mean they will operate the 6th daily flight from Luton... I wonder if it will be operated by 777 or 747?! LOL...
Love it how some of you guys are scraping the barrel in this thread, that maybe airlines will move from Heathrow to Luton, when there is no proof or even rumours that they are coming... If Luton was the only alternative London airport, I might take things a little more serious.
Tarom operates a flights twice a week to the airport, that moved from LHR. That is the only airline that has done it, and now all of a sudden speculation is half of Heathrow are comeing to the airport!
If Cyprus Airways are going to sell their second daily slot at LHR, they are probably going to drop London to single daily in the longer run. Airlines like BA, Ryanair, Monarch, Norwegian and easyJet are all flying to the island from London airports.
Remember up until a few years ago they used STN as their second London base...
Cyprus Airways are and have been in dire straits for years and the death of this airline is imminent, sometime in the not too distant future! They are choked by spiralling costs, a governement who is unwilling to finance them, the EU demanding an unprofitable airline cannot be propped with state aid and a militant unionised workforce!
I thought this forum was about actual news and goings on at the airport - or at least rumours with some meat to the them... But just seems to be full of some peoples individual fantisies and wishlists that they would like to see at the airport.
Love it how some of you guys are scraping the barrel in this thread, that maybe airlines will move from Heathrow to Luton, when there is no proof or even rumours that they are coming... If Luton was the only alternative London airport, I might take things a little more serious.
Tarom operates a flights twice a week to the airport, that moved from LHR. That is the only airline that has done it, and now all of a sudden speculation is half of Heathrow are comeing to the airport!
If Cyprus Airways are going to sell their second daily slot at LHR, they are probably going to drop London to single daily in the longer run. Airlines like BA, Ryanair, Monarch, Norwegian and easyJet are all flying to the island from London airports.
Remember up until a few years ago they used STN as their second London base...
Cyprus Airways are and have been in dire straits for years and the death of this airline is imminent, sometime in the not too distant future! They are choked by spiralling costs, a governement who is unwilling to finance them, the EU demanding an unprofitable airline cannot be propped with state aid and a militant unionised workforce!
I thought this forum was about actual news and goings on at the airport - or at least rumours with some meat to the them... But just seems to be full of some peoples individual fantisies and wishlists that they would like to see at the airport.
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I would like to point out Giles that in the press release from Cyprus Airways about selling a slot to Qatar Airways they are looking to operate from another London airport which they named as either Gatwick, Luton or Stansted. It may not be Luton but it could be so please get your facts right before dismissing the potential of airlines selling their slots and operating services from another London airport.
I would like to add DHL to the maybe list as they hold a number of valuable slots at Heathrow and do have a considerable presence at Luton. After all this is a rumour forum.
I would like to add DHL to the maybe list as they hold a number of valuable slots at Heathrow and do have a considerable presence at Luton. After all this is a rumour forum.
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I would like to add DHL to the maybe list
I re-iterate I may be totally wrong on the above though.
It might be worth reiterating that Iasi is approx the 4th largest city in Romania, a long way in status from Bucharest. Tarom fly routes from Iasi largely based around migrant labour patterns. The route should be treated as similiar to Wizzair flying Luton-Cluj. Tarom's membership of Skyteam or flag carrier status is irrelevant to almost all passengers at Iasi flying direct to either Italy or the UK. Heathrow is utterly inappropriate as a route from Iasi - Luton or Stansted is much more sensible.
Having said all that, Tarom is definitely worth having as a customer for Luton.
Having said all that, Tarom is definitely worth having as a customer for Luton.
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Air Malta? They would compete with Ryanair and fail miserably..
Eastern European "national airlines" might make sense but when you think that most of them will have to compete with the likes of Wizzair it doesn't look very appealing for most of them to shift over to Luton at all.
I think maybe something Turkish and better connections to Italy seem more realistic.. Italy is under served when you take into consideration how huge the Italian communities around these parts are not to mention how many people go on holiday there. FR dropping TPS seems rather ridiculous but at least EZY picked up CTA to keep a Sicilian connection.
I still think somebody needs to do something about a Pakistan flight, Its the most logical route ever. There is space for a small airline connecting the lost Irish routes and maybe hitting up the Jersey, Guernsey...IOM could also work. This is LTN though, Everything takes forever. Still it will be an interesting year to observe under new ownership...
PS. Am I missing something or is there not 1 single itty bitty route to Scandinavia? Bit shocking.
Eastern European "national airlines" might make sense but when you think that most of them will have to compete with the likes of Wizzair it doesn't look very appealing for most of them to shift over to Luton at all.
I think maybe something Turkish and better connections to Italy seem more realistic.. Italy is under served when you take into consideration how huge the Italian communities around these parts are not to mention how many people go on holiday there. FR dropping TPS seems rather ridiculous but at least EZY picked up CTA to keep a Sicilian connection.
I still think somebody needs to do something about a Pakistan flight, Its the most logical route ever. There is space for a small airline connecting the lost Irish routes and maybe hitting up the Jersey, Guernsey...IOM could also work. This is LTN though, Everything takes forever. Still it will be an interesting year to observe under new ownership...
PS. Am I missing something or is there not 1 single itty bitty route to Scandinavia? Bit shocking.
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Runway08 makes a valid & logical case.
Question is who would fly to Pakistan? Isn't Air Blue set for Stansted & would PIA want Luton & Heathrow flights?
Who might take on Turkish routes - Pegasus, Turkish, Monarch?
I'm struggling to think who might be the small airline to take on Ireland, Jersey, Guernsey & IOM?
Question is who would fly to Pakistan? Isn't Air Blue set for Stansted & would PIA want Luton & Heathrow flights?
Who might take on Turkish routes - Pegasus, Turkish, Monarch?
I'm struggling to think who might be the small airline to take on Ireland, Jersey, Guernsey & IOM?
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I would like to add DHL to the maybe list as they hold a number of valuable slots at Heathrow and do have a considerable presence at Luton. After all this is a rumour forum.
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Well thats good news, at least Monarch is giving it a go. I doubt PIA would but there is no reason they couldnt, Elal makes the same kind of niche route targeted at large local communities work. I thought Air Blue were a bit of a financial mess? Maybe a British company could try it.. who knows. There are far more stupid routes announced every week then a Luton to Pakistan connection.
As for the small commuter all I can come up with is Eastern or Cityjet who might be heading in a new direction under new ownership. BMI regional seems to use Luton a lot for one off charters.. they seem to turn up daily, They probably dont have the right aircraft to turn a profit on those routes though.
Surely if there are people in the business who are willing to risk running fokker 50s out of Oxford and Saab 2000s out of cambridge there is someone who would take a punt at some already "proven" routes. Who knows though... we shall see.
As for the small commuter all I can come up with is Eastern or Cityjet who might be heading in a new direction under new ownership. BMI regional seems to use Luton a lot for one off charters.. they seem to turn up daily, They probably dont have the right aircraft to turn a profit on those routes though.
Surely if there are people in the business who are willing to risk running fokker 50s out of Oxford and Saab 2000s out of cambridge there is someone who would take a punt at some already "proven" routes. Who knows though... we shall see.
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Runway08 I like you're thinking. Let's hope at least some of what you suggest comes to fruition.
It would be nice to see someone else have a go at Istanbul, which must surely be a route that offers real potential?
Similarly Pakistan, there is a ready made market for a service. I may be wrong but thought I'd read somewhere that PIA were converting their A310 fleet into all economy with a view to starting a low cost type operation; if true that could be ideal for Luton?
It's a struggle to see who might attempt any Scandinavian routes?
I really hope someone picks up the IOM & JER routes & believe there is also potential for GCI & Irish routes like WAT. I hope one of the airlines you mention might be persuaded to give these routes a go.
It would be nice to see someone else have a go at Istanbul, which must surely be a route that offers real potential?
Similarly Pakistan, there is a ready made market for a service. I may be wrong but thought I'd read somewhere that PIA were converting their A310 fleet into all economy with a view to starting a low cost type operation; if true that could be ideal for Luton?
It's a struggle to see who might attempt any Scandinavian routes?
I really hope someone picks up the IOM & JER routes & believe there is also potential for GCI & Irish routes like WAT. I hope one of the airlines you mention might be persuaded to give these routes a go.
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"The first phase of the project is to build a new temporary road that will divert traffic away from the existing M1 J10a spur and allow the London Road underbridge to be to be constructed with the minimal possible impact on road users."
So a whole new temporary spur road is also going to be built. All work finished in 70 weeks! Lets hope that the 18 month project to upgrade Airport Way that actually took 3 years is not repeated this time.
So a whole new temporary spur road is also going to be built. All work finished in 70 weeks! Lets hope that the 18 month project to upgrade Airport Way that actually took 3 years is not repeated this time.
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DECEMBER PASSENGER FIGURES
A total of 660,474 passengers passed through Luton during December up 3.3 per cent on the previous December. The 12 month rolling figure is 9,693,850 up 0.8 per cent.
Comments anybody?
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Still a fair bit short of the 2008 record but good to see the numbers creeping up year on year. Hopefully with the new airport operator in place, new airlines & an ever expanding route network it won't be too long before Luton hits 10m again.