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Hope its a sign of things to come to be honest, Need a nice variation of Airlines operating out of Luton for once.
As I mentioned before Turkey was one of the places I felt was majorly under served, Hope someone takes note of Italy also and if some commuter steps on the jersey/iom/irish routes we would be progressing rather nicely!
As I mentioned before Turkey was one of the places I felt was majorly under served, Hope someone takes note of Italy also and if some commuter steps on the jersey/iom/irish routes we would be progressing rather nicely!
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My mistake, I thought it was a part of Turkish airlines group. Thanks for clarifying.
Could it be one airline in & one out, given current troubles at Blue Air? I hope not but there does seem rather a lot of carriers competing in the Romanian market space
Could it be one airline in & one out, given current troubles at Blue Air? I hope not but there does seem rather a lot of carriers competing in the Romanian market space
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After reading more today I think the problem with Blue Air was the original owners and company and not the new lot that own it.. I dont think the Romanian market is in overkill at all, There are over 20 million people in Romania and a decent population embedded in England already (Plus Remember all 20+ million are coming here, The daily mail and a bunch of paranoid racists said so).
Jokes aside lets not forget Carpatair is operating to Moldova not Romania, Tarom flights are very sparse and to Iasi not Bucharest.. I think all is well.
Jokes aside lets not forget Carpatair is operating to Moldova not Romania, Tarom flights are very sparse and to Iasi not Bucharest.. I think all is well.
I do not expect a major reduction in the number of aircraft flying to, from and within Romania. I do however expect the number of passenger airlines based in Romania to shrink.
Tarom - bases in Bucharest and Iasi
Blue Air - bases in Bucharest and Bacau
Carpatair / Air Moldova - bases in Timisoara and Chisinau
Wizz - bases in Bucharest, Cluj, Tirgu Mures and Timisoara
Ryanair and Easyjet are opening up in Romania. By Easter, 6 airlines will compete on London-Bucharest. Very few routes in Europe have so many carriers.
Apologies to purists but given the lack of long haul traffic I'm treating bases and hubs equally in Romania. Given so many Moldova residents are eligible for Romanian passports, the language links and the EU air bilaterals, I'm treating Moldova and Romania as almost one country economically for passenger air transport purposes.
10 years ago, Poland with greater wealth and population used to have lots of tiddly airlines - consolidation has shrunk the number of carriers but not the number of flights in Poland. One should perhaps expect the same in Romania.
Luton will retain plentiful flights to Romania / Moldova. I just can't see Luton retaining the variety of tail fins operating to these 2 countries
Tarom - bases in Bucharest and Iasi
Blue Air - bases in Bucharest and Bacau
Carpatair / Air Moldova - bases in Timisoara and Chisinau
Wizz - bases in Bucharest, Cluj, Tirgu Mures and Timisoara
Ryanair and Easyjet are opening up in Romania. By Easter, 6 airlines will compete on London-Bucharest. Very few routes in Europe have so many carriers.
Apologies to purists but given the lack of long haul traffic I'm treating bases and hubs equally in Romania. Given so many Moldova residents are eligible for Romanian passports, the language links and the EU air bilaterals, I'm treating Moldova and Romania as almost one country economically for passenger air transport purposes.
10 years ago, Poland with greater wealth and population used to have lots of tiddly airlines - consolidation has shrunk the number of carriers but not the number of flights in Poland. One should perhaps expect the same in Romania.
Luton will retain plentiful flights to Romania / Moldova. I just can't see Luton retaining the variety of tail fins operating to these 2 countries
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(Plus Remember all 20+ million are coming here, The daily mail and a bunch of paranoid racists said so).
Because the majority of the population has concerns about immigration does not mean they are racists. Yes Luton can gain passenger numbers but those new arrivals need somewhere to live, have health care needs, and their children need education, all at a vast cost. Most will be in low paid jobs so will take more out of the system than the small amount of tax they will pay in.
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Think you are right but I did mention the word Luton so hopefully it was just on topic but I take your point
I see Signature's hangar doors are starting to be hung on their new hangar.
Next to one one in the check-in area today at 16:30 today. In fact next to no one airside either
I see Signature's hangar doors are starting to be hung on their new hangar.
Next to one one in the check-in area today at 16:30 today. In fact next to no one airside either
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Atlas Jet operates from 2nd May, arrival LTN 1110, departure 1220. Flights seem to originate from and go through to Ercan (N. Cyprus).
Timings very favourable with the PGS flight (to SAW) from STN.
FlyBe will not be operating Guernsey.
Timings very favourable with the PGS flight (to SAW) from STN.
FlyBe will not be operating Guernsey.
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Have they officially announced the route anywhere? Is it normal to put up a bunch of flights on their website that they are not going to operate or can we expect 3 other destinations from LTN to appear in the Booking engine sooner or later.
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Atlasjet are a major domestic airline, so routes will probably include a plane change (but not Ercan).
Flybe awarded Guernsey, but unlikely to launch the route. An airline in a state of transition!
Interesting contribution Mr D Johnson 6 (as always).
Anyone taking Pegasus or THY on must mean business, or be daft!
Flybe awarded Guernsey, but unlikely to launch the route. An airline in a state of transition!
Interesting contribution Mr D Johnson 6 (as always).
Anyone taking Pegasus or THY on must mean business, or be daft!
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I think atlasjet tried STN for a while and pulled out quite quickly. TK have put on so much capacity between Turkey and London it's hard to see how anyone could make money apart from them and maybe Pegasus. I can't see Atlasjet lasting long
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I don't see why Atlasjet can't be successful. Turkey is a burgeoning economic force so demand is only going to increase. With easyJet exiting the Istanbul route in the spring there is an obvious gap that Atlasjet have wisely stepped in to fill. Good luck to them.
As for Flybe, I recall this forum discussed the Guernsey route application months ago. Given that in the interim, the airline has pulled out of Luton completely I don't get why they persisted with the Guernsey route application if they have no intention of offering a service. Why not just pull the application or is there a chance that Flybe may return to Luton in the future once the restructuring is complete & their future is more secure?
Does a route application, once agreed, as in this case, remain approved for a limited period of time or indefinitely?
As for Flybe, I recall this forum discussed the Guernsey route application months ago. Given that in the interim, the airline has pulled out of Luton completely I don't get why they persisted with the Guernsey route application if they have no intention of offering a service. Why not just pull the application or is there a chance that Flybe may return to Luton in the future once the restructuring is complete & their future is more secure?
Does a route application, once agreed, as in this case, remain approved for a limited period of time or indefinitely?
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Except that if Turkey is a "burgeoning economic force" (which it is) why has an increasingly business-oriented airline like EZY dropped all its routes there? Only to be replaced by a leisure-oriented airline like Atlasjet, who seem to be mostly targeting the Turkish Cypriot diaspora who mostly will fly there to visit family rather than going on business. I hope it works for Atlasjet but their record is pretty patchy.
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Leak of the Week: London Luton set to secure new Atlasjet services
Anyone know what aircraft is going to be used
Anyone know what aircraft is going to be used