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Old 9th Jul 2008, 07:25
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No JulietNovemberPapa, as I said it's irrelevant who books one ways or returns. Ryanair are currently carrying in the region of 50m passengers per annum. This is calculated on a per sector basis so a person booking a return trip is two passengers. Therefore it may be that 12.5m are booking returns and 25m booking singles but since the credit card charge is per sector it doesn't matter how the 50m figure is arrived at.
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...hi folks...could somebody advise whether Santander has ever been flown from LPL...cos if not...it soon will be!
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 09:13
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Aha, yes, silly me - I added an extra 25m pax to the total.

Ok, around £200m no matter the breakdown of returns and singles.

Far easier just to stick with the basic calculation: £4 x 50m. :P
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 09:45
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Lpl-sdr

Liverpool - Santander was flown 3x weekly between Oct 06 and Oct 07.
The average flown LF was 66% - not too fantastic, although marginally better than the 64% achieved by LPL-SCQ, which has been resurrected this Summer. Cue usual comments about loads and yields ...
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 10:10
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...is this site that bad that as soon as a comment is made someone is waiting to put you down? Sounds like people aren't making good use of any spare time they may have.... Thanks for the info anyway Anna List...much appreciated....i was hoping that if it was LPL then maybe BHX could be next (don't bother flaming my wacko logic anyone)...it's the route i am waiting on..sick of going down to STN for it!
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 15:50
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Who did you get your Visa Electron card through jesi? I did a search and couldn't find any banks. It appears to have gone out of fashion (except Ireland)? It was introduced as a student card mianly.
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Not amused to find an extra £16 suprise! (two adult passenger returns) added to the original expected bill of £39.96 today... having used my debit card in an effort to avoid a credit card charge.
That is an unexpected extra of 40.04% and the small print does say it applies now to both a debit card and a credit card payment.
Apparently when opening up the small print one does find that a £4
charge per sector per passenger is due...a total of £16 for one debit card transaction...this must be some sort of record a 40.04% charge for useing a debit card once.
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 21:40
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Has anyone else noticed that Ryanair converts the fares for flights booked in currencies other than the one of the cardholder without the agreement of the cardholder? I've made a few one-way bookings back to the UK which quoted prices in euros. Instead of these fares appearing as euros on my UK credit card statement - and then converted to sterling by my card provider - I found only a sterling debit. Am I right in thinking that because of the possibility of high rates of conversion "commission", consumers have to be offered the option of being billed in the "local" currency or in their own?
Ryanair are almost certainly breaking the dynamic currency conversion rules of the credit card company by not offering the option to charge in the local currency. This is certainly the case in the UK but may differ overseas, speak to your card company having first checked the conversion rate used

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Old 9th Jul 2008, 21:40
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I have to laugh at all this moaning on this forum re Ryanair CC charges. Why are you using them? Go find a decent airline. When Fr see their pax nos falling in decent numbers they will soon change their policy. meantime if you want to pay these rip-off fees, more fool you. At the end of the day, fr will suceed or fail on demand and supply. If the demand falls, they will fall. And we all control the demand. But as far as I can see, many are slaves to the idea that Fr are cheap. Due to all their extras, a hidden fuel supplement, they are not.

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Old 9th Jul 2008, 22:48
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The EU ruling on all inclusive pricing makes me laugh.

A Ryanair spokeman stated that:

“Ryanair is delighted that the European Parliament has decided to bring other airlines into line with Ryanair’s high standards of fare transparency. There will be no changes to the Ryanair website following this legislation as Ryanair already complies with it. .”

Then tucked away on page two of their site they admit that since the 25th June they haven't complied.
Credit and debit card charges have risn
Priority boarding charges have risen.

The Danish authorites are following the Norwegian ones and challenging the way fares are displayed/advertised.

There is a fundamental swithc in the market coming with changes in the economy. Ryanair would gain far more by being open and then challening anuone to a direct fare comparison or is it this they always back away from?

I'm waiting for my local petrol station to advertise fuel at 63p per litre plus taxes ( 50.5 p hydrocarbon tax and 17.5% VAT) plus electronic pump dispension tax 5p, disposable glove tax 2p, carparking charges whilst refuling 8p.

Anyway you look at it Ryanair are still unhedged on fuel and for a slong as these silly crude prices continue it will wipe out a huge amount of their profits. For what its worth If I was MOL I would have done the same as him when oil was $65 as I couldn't see it sustaining higher prices for long...
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 01:36
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You make me laugh lexoncd. Your rambling leaves me unsure as to what it is your whining about this time. Overall the EU decision I guess.

Your petrol station example acts as a very good point actually. I acknowledge that Ryanair doesn't always break down taxes and charges in a completely clear manner yet it does serve as a good indicator of where a customer is receiving overall value for money. For example I don't perceive to be gaining any additional benefit or enjoyment from flying out of BHX rather than SNN yet I have to pay over 4 times the charges to fly from BHX when standard taxes and charges are applied. Why should airport charges be hidden within an airfare? Why should additional charges at a petrol station be hidden within the price per litre? I welcome Ryanair's (and other LCCs) shakeup of how customers are given details of air travel costs and can only hope this spreads to other industries. I personally don't feel the need to be treated like child, I studied mathematics at school like the next kid.
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 09:03
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I don't understand all that moaning about the Ryanair prices.
At the end of the booking process (it takes one or two minutes at the most), you get the final total price, including or not hold luggage, insurance, priority boarding, and all - and then, you have the choice of buying it or not.
If the price is too high, you click on the "x" at the upper right corner of your screen, and that is it. Where is the problem ?
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 15:47
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Visa Electron Card

Who did you get your Visa Electron card through jesi? I did a search and couldn't find any banks. It appears to have gone out of fashion (except Ireland)? It was introduced as a student card mianly.

Greenbroker, I got a Visa Electron card from the Co-operative Bank last week. Now I'll be able to book flights on Ryanair and not pay a credit or debit card fee.
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 16:23
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I know that Apr 09 is quite a way away, but does anyone think that FR will expand from EMA next summer, or are they sticking wiv BHX?
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 17:38
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Now I'll be able to book flights on Ryanair and not pay a credit or debit card fee.
Yep, for the time being. But it will at some point go from free-of-charge to pay-to-use, based on: "As a special offer to Visa Electron card holders, Ryanair, for a limited period only, will not apply a Debit Card charge." Emphasis mine. That's from: Ryanair.com - FAQS : Table of Fees (English)

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Old 10th Jul 2008, 20:04
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Today, 2100 UK time, Ryanair Website completely unavailable. Does anyone know what's going on?
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 21:58
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It happened MANY times over the past weeks, actually since they changed their booking software. Apparently, this is their new, more convenient, quicker website lol
Fact is since they changed it, it's completely rubbish
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Old 11th Jul 2008, 00:00
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Electron cards: I used Halifax Easycash... apply online...

The other good thing is that, if you're with HSBC (and perhaps others) it now only takes 5 mins or so to transfer funds from your main account to Halifax... no more waiting 2 days or more. So you can transfer money straight in to pay for your flight just before booking.
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 10:04
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New routes!

NYO-PRG 1-3-5-7
NYO-LCJ 3-7
NYO-WRO 2-4-6
NYO-LRK 2-3-6



Increase capcity

NYO-Berlin 14 fligths per week
NYO-Milano 9 fligths per week
NYO-Riga daily
NYO-Eindhoven 6 fligths per week


and a new route from luton BIQ

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 10:10
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Does that mean the end of STN -BIQ ?
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