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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 02:45
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RyR to go Trans Atlantic

Hi all, was talking to a mate in RYR says thed incoming -800 options have been renegoiated for 73-9ER same type to send the lads trans atlantic on a tripal period. Futura running 220 pax on this type if im not mistaken?? Could be a runner who knows
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 06:15
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not a runner...

... unless MOL is planning to charge the punters extra for a stop in Keflavik. According to Boeing's sales numbers the -900ER has a range of 2700nm with 215 pax. Remove their marketing bull**** factor and that becomes more like 2500nm, maximum.
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 07:36
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According to the wonderful Great Circle Mapper at Great Circle Mapper it's

SNN Shannon (Limerick), IE
ISP Islip [Long Island Mac Arthur Airport], NY, US
SNN (52°42'07"N 08°55'29"W) ISP (40°47'43"N 73°06'01"W) 281° (W) 2648 nm

But then again, it may be just another MOL idea...
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 07:43
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And Providence and Manchester ( Southwest cities) are 2500nms from Shannon.

The joys of 2 sector days to look forward to.
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Yes, but, aren't you supposed to arrive with a little left, oh and there is that headwind thing
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How about SNN-YQX (Gander). In true FR fashion it could be dubbed "New York NE". Circa 2000nm and once out of the terminal its a PAX problem just how they get from the airport to downtown.
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How about SNN-YQX (Gander). In true FR fashion it could be dubbed "New York NE". Circa 2000nm and once out of the terminal its a PAX problem just how they get from the airport to downtown.
I like it!
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Come on guys, time for a little bit of joined-up thinking here...

FSTA will legitimise itself in part by using the new A330 tankers in the civil sector. But who said anything about them carrying passengers?



Gordon and MOL have clearly been plotting this for a while.

It's the answer to sooo many problems.
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You might not be far off the mark there harrogate.

Air-to-Air Tanker Plan

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Post Ryanair tops up Aer Lingus stake

Low-cost airline Ryanair has increased its stake in Aer Lingus to just under 30%, after it was blocked from buying its rival Irish carrier.
Ryanair has bought an extra 3.5 million shares, taking its stake up to 29.8% from 29%.
Were Ryanair's stake to exceed 29.9%, it would be required to make a bid for the remaining shares in the company.
Ryanair's plan to merge with Aer Lingus was blocked by the European Commission, a ruling it is currently challenging.
Ryanair argues that the Commission's 2007 decision to veto a deal was "unlawful" and "politically motivated" and has launched an appeal at the Court of First Instance.
The Commission said that the deal was against the public interest as the combined firm would control of 80% of all European flights out of Dublin airport.
But Ryanair maintains a combined business would have less than 5% of the entire EU market and would reduce fares and eliminate fuel surcharges, saving passengers £100m a year. Aer Lingus failed to force Ryanair to sell its stake last year.
BBC NEWS | Business | Ryanair tops up Aer Lingus stake
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Why a -900. There were plans by various companies a few years ago, and I don't mean BBJ operators, to fly e.g. GVA - Toronto with -700 or -800's. The bigger fuselage doesn't mean extra range, only more paxs. With a belly tank in a -800 I would have thought it capable of B757 ranges, and guess what BA used on the Boston runs.
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 12:39
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Maybe the B737.700 would be a quick thought, especially with the economy the way it is, its cheap and can travel the distance from Dublin to New York for example...
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All very well, but as has been proven repeatedly, you don't make money on economy longhaul - you make money on cargo and business passengers.

Not only are business and cargo not interested in being 2 hours from city centres, but I can't see family of 4 being interested in arriving at an airport with no connections to a city either.

Shorthaul is an entirely different proposition.
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A query on behalf of an acquaintance whom needs to travel to Madrid as cheapy as possible from the London area in order to help out tending to an elderly relative - when is Ryanair starting Madrid - Stansted? Thanks. Have checked around on the Ryanair web site trying to find it but it is failing me to find the start date.

Wish they would do Madrid - Cork but wish lists dont count for much any more, do they, in this new oil climate.

Alas.
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Stn-mad

Madrid is to start at 26. October, twice daily. Departures in STN 0830 and 1900.
rgds
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Thank you, FA10, very much for the update. Will be passing on that info in 1.5 hours from now.
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MOL was talking about business class transatlantic when he made his comments about beds and blow jobs
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Post Softly softly, catchy monkey.

In Chaos; opportunity.
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Angel Ryanair tops up Aer Lingus stake

Well done Mr.O Leary it wont be long now before you make a real competative airline out of Aer Lingus.
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I would say Stewart, not Islip. NYC airspace congestion makes heading out of the city a necessity to even consider a substantial operation and KSWF's location (73 miles from Manhattan) is much more Ryanair-like - plus that 11,800ft runway they've got. Remember you've got to put a 73NG full of Americans across the pond - 7,000ft at ISP isn't generous!
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