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What's also being reported is that JETAIRFLY who currently operate an enormously successful CRL - Casablanca route will announce 4 new routes for CRL on Friday: Tenerife, Las Palmas, Oujda and Nador.
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A bit disappointing there's nothing new at BHD. A link to either LTN or BRS would be obvious choices. Still maybe there's still time to FR to consider these for winter 08 perhaps with another based a/c at BHD.
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My understanding is, and I stand to be corrected, that Ryanair want Luton to pay them to base more planes there. Luton have said "No thank you"!
If you don't ask...you don't get!
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That is how Ryanair operate. Pay me to fly from your airport. This might be via local development grants, EU subsidies etc.
Luton said "NO, if you want to base more, then you pay the going rate"!
Luton in effect would then subsidise Ryanair profits?
Ryanair and its BAA Stansted spin. It probably is, and will continue to get good deals to open new routes from there, and I guess Ryanair gets the same at Luton? Derry and Trapani are new destinations, so might get a bit of a discount?
Ryanair have announced that they are grounding planes this winter, easyJet have disguised this same fact by accelerating the removal of the -700's from their fleet and replacing with Airbus....not in addition.
The survival of UK airlines within the current climate relies upon spreading the risk. The more bases outside and around Europe, the more chance of riding the storm, this is easyJet/Ryanair current policy. If one market declines, others around Europe will prop you up. Getting a few self help payments from the airports and regions certainly helps as well!
UK Lo-Co's relying upon a predominately UK clientèle will be in deep bear Pooh come the winter with oil north of $100.
Luton said "NO, if you want to base more, then you pay the going rate"!
Luton in effect would then subsidise Ryanair profits?
Ryanair and its BAA Stansted spin. It probably is, and will continue to get good deals to open new routes from there, and I guess Ryanair gets the same at Luton? Derry and Trapani are new destinations, so might get a bit of a discount?
Ryanair have announced that they are grounding planes this winter, easyJet have disguised this same fact by accelerating the removal of the -700's from their fleet and replacing with Airbus....not in addition.
The survival of UK airlines within the current climate relies upon spreading the risk. The more bases outside and around Europe, the more chance of riding the storm, this is easyJet/Ryanair current policy. If one market declines, others around Europe will prop you up. Getting a few self help payments from the airports and regions certainly helps as well!
UK Lo-Co's relying upon a predominately UK clientèle will be in deep bear Pooh come the winter with oil north of $100.
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Ryanair today!
Was reading on Uk airports news the response from Flybe and Jet2 regarding MOL's comments about 'crappy airlines'.
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/leed...ews-040608.htm
What a hit back, it seems to me that Flybe have quite a confidence and seem to feel unaffected by Ryanair. Belfast City routes dont seem to have been too badly hit for Flybe since Ryanair arrived in the market.
I think MOL will launch a big attack on the Flybe network in the coming months, and as a start Belfast city wil see new routes. I wouldnt be at all surprised if Ryanair launch flights to Manchester, Birmingham and maybe Gatwick now that would be very exciting!!!!
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/leed...ews-040608.htm
What a hit back, it seems to me that Flybe have quite a confidence and seem to feel unaffected by Ryanair. Belfast City routes dont seem to have been too badly hit for Flybe since Ryanair arrived in the market.
I think MOL will launch a big attack on the Flybe network in the coming months, and as a start Belfast city wil see new routes. I wouldnt be at all surprised if Ryanair launch flights to Manchester, Birmingham and maybe Gatwick now that would be very exciting!!!!
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With regards to the suggestion that Luton Airport pay Ryanair:
We have to remember that Ryanair were at LTN before STN. The move across to STN came about because of LTN charges and check in facilities.
Now there are 40+ airframes at STN and only 4 at LTN.
I expect that the LTN management would be keen to work out a deal to get back some of the business they have lost to STN.
We have to remember that Ryanair were at LTN before STN. The move across to STN came about because of LTN charges and check in facilities.
Now there are 40+ airframes at STN and only 4 at LTN.
I expect that the LTN management would be keen to work out a deal to get back some of the business they have lost to STN.
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To open the five new route from BGY to BDS, SXF, IBZ, FEZ and add a new 4th daily to CIA will be based one new plane in BGY, so from end of october BGY will have 7 plane based.
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BHD
I don't think you will see any BHD expansion yet from FR. The rwy at BHD is too short and not a favourite. Should rwy extension happen (doubtful due local residents) then Id see FR expand. The bloodletting is going to occur in BHX and I fell Flybe will be ok however BMIBaby I wouldn't be so sure.
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Could more routes be announced for Birmingham for the Winter 2008/2009 season:
http://www.flyintobhx.co.uk/news.html
What do you think??????
Without a doubt, more routes will be announced very soon for the coming Winter 2008/2009 season!
What do you think??????
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Obvious route to LTN and BRS... Lord I hope not!!! And MAN, BHX, or LGW... 
Total over capacity on Belfast-London routes, with even FR selling their 1p seats or £4.99 one-ways and still flying empty seats. All this will do after the short term consumer bonus of day trips to the capital or weekend breaks, (and as the public start tightening their belts), the market will correct itself with reduction in capacity. Less frequent flights with a particular airline. Less choice therefore of flights, and with two airports here, if you fly out of BFS with car parked there, its not handy to get a more suitable timed flight home with FR but to BHD!! Maybe not so bad with the LHR flights for connections, but STN, oh come on...
Already pretty good competition in Belfast with BE and EZY competing on many routes, so why on earth bring more airlines in on the equation?? Like I said, short term gain of incredably low fares, but sooner or later, market will correct, and customers have less frequency by airline.
Bristol is a concern. If FR started flights there from BHD, Easyjet may respond, or overtime, pull the middle of the day flight. This then leaves the NI consumer worse off, with less frequency with say morning and evening departure with EZY and the same with FR or perhaps even only 1 day with FR. How does that benefit someone with their car at BFS and wants to travel in the middle of the day, or needs a morning flight one day and home the afternoon next???
In my opinion FR have basically offered nothing new to the NI consumer, short term cheap flights, but to no new destinations, unless you class PIK as not Glasgow. Yes, they're very good at what they do, so bring us European routes, new destinations. Not just over capacity on what was already a good number of destinations from both airports and good service, with prices you'd expect to pay!! Get the runway extension at BHD or move to BFS and offer us NI citizens something new and beneficial.
Total over capacity on Belfast-London routes, with even FR selling their 1p seats or £4.99 one-ways and still flying empty seats. All this will do after the short term consumer bonus of day trips to the capital or weekend breaks, (and as the public start tightening their belts), the market will correct itself with reduction in capacity. Less frequent flights with a particular airline. Less choice therefore of flights, and with two airports here, if you fly out of BFS with car parked there, its not handy to get a more suitable timed flight home with FR but to BHD!! Maybe not so bad with the LHR flights for connections, but STN, oh come on...
Already pretty good competition in Belfast with BE and EZY competing on many routes, so why on earth bring more airlines in on the equation?? Like I said, short term gain of incredably low fares, but sooner or later, market will correct, and customers have less frequency by airline.
Bristol is a concern. If FR started flights there from BHD, Easyjet may respond, or overtime, pull the middle of the day flight. This then leaves the NI consumer worse off, with less frequency with say morning and evening departure with EZY and the same with FR or perhaps even only 1 day with FR. How does that benefit someone with their car at BFS and wants to travel in the middle of the day, or needs a morning flight one day and home the afternoon next???
In my opinion FR have basically offered nothing new to the NI consumer, short term cheap flights, but to no new destinations, unless you class PIK as not Glasgow. Yes, they're very good at what they do, so bring us European routes, new destinations. Not just over capacity on what was already a good number of destinations from both airports and good service, with prices you'd expect to pay!! Get the runway extension at BHD or move to BFS and offer us NI citizens something new and beneficial.
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Was browsing prices for Xmas flights (nothing like a bit of forward planning) and I noticed that VLC-DUB has no flights listed after October (lots of other Ryanair routes do). Can I therefore take it that this route is being dropped?
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On Board Prices
Just travelled with Ryanair this week, they will surely be making a huge profit on on board sales with the prices they charge, two sachets of cheap whiskey equivalent to a minature. priced at £4.60 with a mixer at £1.50, a cuppa soup at £3, these must be the highest prices in the world, talk about getting into a captive audience!!!!!
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They havn't operated 24th for a while. I think it is that if a flight was late, or due in after mid-night it goes into a public holiday (Xmas day) and would this then cost the airline more (crew extra time etc.?)
Also, will there contract say that they are guaranteed Xmas day off?
FR crew - help us out!
Also, will there contract say that they are guaranteed Xmas day off?
FR crew - help us out!
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They usually finish very early on Christmas and New Years eve, last flight landing around 1600 or so.
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Ryanair Christmas Eve flights.
They usually finish very early on Christmas and New Years eve, last flight landing around 1600 or so.
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Great to see, at last, flights from Stansted to Madrid ("Thank you", MOL!) but does anyone know why Madrid-based aircraft have been chosen to operate this route? A result of this is that the schedules look more favourable for Spanish business travellers, who can get to Stansted by 8am and have a 7pm return flight, as opposed to UK travellers who can't get to Barajas before noon and have to contend with the fact that the last flight back leaves at 5.10pm.
[P.S. Madrid now has flights from LHR, LGW, STN, LTN and LCY. As far as I am aware Dublin might be the only other destination served from all five London Area airports. Are there any others?]
[P.S. Madrid now has flights from LHR, LGW, STN, LTN and LCY. As far as I am aware Dublin might be the only other destination served from all five London Area airports. Are there any others?]