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the locost airline business strategy is clearly falling apart and is in no way sustainable with the current economic factors in play.passengers must be very,very wary if booking ahead with ryanair,with the real possibility of having their travel plans thrown into chaos with route cancellations.no ammount of charges for check-in,hold baggage,priority boarding,undrinkable spirits in plastic sachets served with no ice onboard,will make up for the increase in fuel prices.added together,locost travel is no longer locost.all the passengers taking advantage of cheap fares to pop around europe on their days off,will no longer be passengers,as the very incentive,ie cheap travel,will have disappeared.i pity all those who bought holiday homes in the middle of nowhere,only accessible via airports we had never heard of,only to find the flights no longer exist,or cost 5 times more than this time last year.laying up aircraft due to pre-planned cancellations is one option,flying the others half empty will not be an option for long.tough times ahead for ryanair i believe.
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What an utter load of rubbish! I think you'll find both EZY and RYR are most likely to whether the storm over your traditional carriers. Punters are feeling the pinch in Europe, as well as the States. They are going to be far more attracted by the low fares of LCC's, with no fuel surcharges etc. Yes they have to pay for a few extra things, but if they are wise and cautious then they'll get a cheaper fare generally than offered by a legacy carrier.
All airlines are reassessing their strategies, but you cannot say that RYR will suffer most, because they have proven that they quite clearly wont. They might only break even next year, however watch this space, others will lose money.
All airlines are reassessing their strategies, but you cannot say that RYR will suffer most, because they have proven that they quite clearly wont. They might only break even next year, however watch this space, others will lose money.
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I recentally read that Ryanair are considering:
Gothenburg City 3x Weekly
Basel 4x Weekly
Malta 2x Weekly
Hamburg 4x Weekly
Reus 3x Weekly
Ibiza 2x Weekly
from EMA
Is this true, or should I keep on dreaming about expansion at EMA in the next few months... If they are considering it, wouldnt that be a definate 7th aircraft for EMA...
Gothenburg City 3x Weekly
Basel 4x Weekly
Malta 2x Weekly
Hamburg 4x Weekly
Reus 3x Weekly
Ibiza 2x Weekly
from EMA
Is this true, or should I keep on dreaming about expansion at EMA in the next few months... If they are considering it, wouldnt that be a definate 7th aircraft for EMA...
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I'm confused! Apparently, Ryanair will cease flying between Stansted and Valencia between 4 November and 19 December. If this is the case why (as of just five minutes ago) is it still possible to book flights within this period? (I only tried 7-8 November.) Doesn't the left hand know what the right one is doing or did I miss something?
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No, it's £4 per passenger per sector for both debit and credit cards, as here: Ryanair.com - FAQS : Table of Fees (English). Presently, Visa Electron is free, but that's likely to change considering this wording: "As a special offer to Visa Electron card holders, Ryanair, for a limited period only, will not apply a Debit Card charge."
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RYR do not 'rely' on any subsidies but strive, as all good businesses do, to extract the most favorable rates from their suppliers, in this case, the airports.
It has already been proved that ryanair received illegal subsidies from the airport, and trust me, they will be condemned again many times in the futur
Ryanair business model is founded on the economic exploitation of the weaker, and especially the cabin crew coming from the east (really bad paid whereas they are harder and harder to find) and the airports (because ryanair knows very well that many airport's revenue are 90% driven by Ryanair, so if they lost Ryanair, they stop operating)
A stricke of their cabin crew and the europen commission that really stop illegal subsidies and Ryanair will be in a very very unpleasant situation
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I'm confused! Apparently, Ryanair will cease flying between Stansted and Valencia between 4 November and 19 December. If this is the case why (as of just five minutes ago) is it still possible to book flights within this period? (I only tried 7-8 November.) Doesn't the left hand know what the right one is doing or did I miss something?
Seat62K - likewise from EMA! It would be nice if RYR let passengers who have booked sets know what's happening with this.
Seat62K - likewise from EMA! It would be nice if RYR let passengers who have booked sets know what's happening with this.
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There's what looks like a very worrying contribution to the Ryanair thread on the "Rumours and News" section of the Flight Deck Forum about a sick Ryanair pilot reporting to work because of management pressure. If this is true it would be absolutely disgraceful, not to mention potentially dangerous. Ryanair must be aware that passengers who had concerns about safety would stay away in droves. Let's hope that, if true, this is an isolated incident, bad enough that this would be.
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It looks as though Ryanair is still having problems with its website.
I just tried to make a test booking (not to actually travel - god forbid - but as research into additional costs and charges) and halfway through the process received the following message:
An Error Has Occurred
An error condition exists which is preventing you from continuing. You may wish to start over and try again.
If you continue to get this error message, please contact the airline.
Additional details about the error:
An error has occurred. Please try again.
(I love those "additional details"! Very informative.
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I just tried to make a test booking (not to actually travel - god forbid - but as research into additional costs and charges) and halfway through the process received the following message:
An Error Has Occurred
An error condition exists which is preventing you from continuing. You may wish to start over and try again.
If you continue to get this error message, please contact the airline.
Additional details about the error:
An error has occurred. Please try again.
(I love those "additional details"! Very informative.
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Just seen a post on www.airlinequality.com, dated 16 July, about the cancellation of a 1625 Carcassonne-Stansted flight (not sure whether this was 16 July, too). The contributor states that the cancellation was due to rain (sic!) and that the inbound aircraft diverted to Perpignan. Does anyone know exactly what happened? Thanks!
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CCF is not the best equipped airport in Europe. the ILS is on runway 10 and in a westerly wind the approach to 28 is a circle to land procedure ( visual pattern).
The runway is 2050 metres long, pretty short for a 737-800 and the approach is steeper than normal 3 degree ILS / visual.
If the cloudbase is lower than 900ft the circling procedure isn't feasible hence the likelihood is that the aircraft will land at the alternate instead.
Weather is not something MOL can control even if some people do think he has Divine powers.
CCF is not the best equipped airport in Europe. the ILS is on runway 10 and in a westerly wind the approach to 28 is a circle to land procedure ( visual pattern).
The runway is 2050 metres long, pretty short for a 737-800 and the approach is steeper than normal 3 degree ILS / visual.
If the cloudbase is lower than 900ft the circling procedure isn't feasible hence the likelihood is that the aircraft will land at the alternate instead.
Weather is not something MOL can control even if some people do think he has Divine powers.
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Thanks for the information about Carcassone. I suspected that there could be more to this story than meets the eye, but wondered, initally, if this was a case of blaming the weather to avoid compensation under EU rules.
Customers, including presumably the poster on www.airlinequality.com, who lack an understanding of airline operations need to be given more detail about a cancellation like this than just to be told it's due to "bad weather" (accepting that this is all they were told), particularly since, from their own perspective, it's "only raining" (if only to retain some goodwill). Airlines need to realise that keeping an existing customer is probably cheaper than finding a new one (the poster on www.airlinequality.com said "never again with [Ryanair]"). Sounds like a situation which could've been better handled.
Customers, including presumably the poster on www.airlinequality.com, who lack an understanding of airline operations need to be given more detail about a cancellation like this than just to be told it's due to "bad weather" (accepting that this is all they were told), particularly since, from their own perspective, it's "only raining" (if only to retain some goodwill). Airlines need to realise that keeping an existing customer is probably cheaper than finding a new one (the poster on www.airlinequality.com said "never again with [Ryanair]"). Sounds like a situation which could've been better handled.
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I have booked to go to Tenerife in January at the grand cost of £38 return. I have never known anything so resonable for a flight to the Canaries, really is excellent value.
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The nonsense-marriage of Ryanair with Microsoft (via Navitaire) went even further. If the slowness of the already-crippled Ryanair website were not enough, now the stage two is coming. Shortly the usage of this site will be virtually impossible without M$'s newest operating system and software. Running Vista and the Internet Explorer, trying to see the route map? Well, your system might be slow, but you are able to do it. Now, try to do it running Firefox on W2k, running Opera on... anything, running anything on Linux... No way, you just see another screen with "sorry you can't".
It's just so hopeless. Ryanair keep saying the customers: "Don't like it our way? Go to others. We will not change our rules/ customer relations/ booking systems/ anything". Many passengers do try other options, often finding them. FR's load factors are unsatisfatory, the route development is far from its targets, the profitability is falling. Just due to the fuel prices? Or maybe the once-unquestionable success story is jeopardized by simple obstinacy?
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I was reading your post above, I find it next to impossible at times to get bookings done on ryanair.com, it is either so slow or doesnt give the information. I think that the big source of Ryanairs worries around loads etc of late has been this one. Hence the huge discounting, ie tax free. No doubt fuel is a huge headache but the website is less than effective, and all since they had it closed to facilitate the new rules ie total costs to be shown on on page etc.
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Have some sympathy for poor MOL, hanging on the line (premium rate £1 per minute) having to endure "LoCost IT Solutions" recorded message ("your call is important to us, please hold for the next available agent..")
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But seriously, I also wonder how much business Ryanair is losing as a result of this and exactly how long it will take to get sorted.
. But seriously, I also wonder how much business Ryanair is losing as a result of this and exactly how long it will take to get sorted.