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Old 30th Jul 2008, 11:23
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Was over in Dublin a few months ago - Guinness the same price as in London but sure tasted better!
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 11:28
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And how much is a Guinness in London? Not cheap I bet!
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 12:40
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Why Not
Do You have money to burn.
Or are you just one of those who believes everything that you read, and still believes in the tooth fairy ?
Good flight, new aircraft well maintained, punctual, nice crews.
Cheap flights to regional airports with good onward communications.
Just had my first 2 trips with Ryanair which were better than many legacy carriers.

BA are cutting back flights by as much as 25% so less choice Europe wide.
Ryanair can pick up more passengers there, and have the ability to do so.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 12:43
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Another £1 "no taxes" seat sale has just gone live, with loads of routes not normally covered by this type of promo (Kaunas, Brno etc). But...

...what is the point...

...when...

...the bl**dy (I want to use stronger wording here) website simply CANNOT cope. Bad enough that it can now only search one day at a time, but even that seems too much, and all I'm getting is "network error" followed by "network error". I'm getting to the fares screen maybe one attempt in 10.

To me, it's clear - the number one thing Ryanair need to fix is the website! Without it, they're nothing.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 12:46
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Flew FR BRS-DUB-BRS yesterday. Great flights, on time, decent price. Both at least 3/4 full. I don't buy priority boarding and I nowadays don't bother to queue much - it's annoying and tiring - and I still get the seat I want.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 13:16
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We can expect more of this, I guess - since MOL has to concentrate on his own company rather than taking about the competition: He had his mouth shut last week by a German court at the request of airberlin who obtained an injunction against MOL. He is no longer allowed to say that airberlin is on the brink of collapse.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 13:20
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How many aircrafts could be in Bologna? I think only 2 or 3 because Bologna is not so interesting like Rimini, Pisa or Florence and it is not so far from Milan, Verona and Venice which are also Ryanair-airports. Italy is a very interesting market but FR should go to Rome or Naples. Til now there is no competion with easyjet in this two big cities.

Are there any information about the Bologna Base and which/how many routes will come?
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 13:35
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...the bl**dy (I want to use stronger wording here) website simply CANNOT cope.
I think MOL is not yet ready to sue his partners (Navitaire rather than Microsoft) for all these losses, but such a decision is just a question of time.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 15:37
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Please do not allow yourselves the dubious distinction of letting this thread lose definition or make silly childish remarks.

Ryanair do not deserve that.

Keep it on topic or some of you will have to find another playground.

Btw. I recently purchased two tickets to Prestwick for a total cost of £44. That is a deal in anybody's language. NO charges for the flight - zero!

Please continue.

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Old 30th Jul 2008, 16:20
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I've got a funny feeling that in 12 months time, one or two airline CEO's will be telling their shareholders 'we had the right strategy to see off Ryanair but unfortunately we went bankrupt before we could prove it'.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 18:00
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I've got a funny feeling that in 12 months time, one or two airline CEO's will be telling their shareholders 'we had the right strategy to see off Ryanair but unfortunately we went bankrupt before we could prove it'.
Only one CEO talks about seeing anyone off.
Only one CEO talks down any other company.
Only one CEO gleefully predicts the demise of other companies.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 18:51
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How about a comparison with another industry? Look at the supermarket trade and the 2 stores in the UK that are rapidly increasing turnover are: ALDI and LIDL - in the Grocery trade - the 2 LoCos. Brits will always want to go on holiday but if they can cut back on the cost by booking a cheap villa in Spain (of which there is a glut) and book cheap flights then they will. Personally I wouldn't want to be over exposed to Caribbean or similar long haul destinations.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 19:16
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Firstly hedging (or lack thereof) plays a significant part in this market and lack of it could well render the very best of business models defunct. Secondly the british will always want their holidays but I very much doubt they will sacrifice their main annual expedition. Instead it will be the multiple weekend jollies to Spain that take the hit (not good for locos). Sounds like bad news all round to me. One thing that is becoming pretty sure though is that Ryanair suddenly don't seem to be as untouchable as O'leary would have you think. The city have also woken up at last to the BS.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 19:27
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Grrr

If Ryanair are feeling the pressure, goodness only knows what is going on around other airline Board rooms globally.

As I posted in another thread, big H.Q. job cuts at easyJet today. How long before a Ryanair/easyJet merger and don't give me 'different business models' rubbish. Airlines are entering new territory with the global credit crisis and oil doubling in price over the last 12 months. Anything can happen and in the airline industry, the unthinkable might? who knows? One thing for sure, there will be casualties and the remaining airlines will re-trench back to the larger airports where the yields are more robust.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 19:52
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Good point Buster - let's face it who on earth would have envisaged a BA/Iberia merger a year ago??? In Fact what on earth are BA thinking of?
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 20:08
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Not everybody flying Ryanair is going away on holiday or a weekend break. Some people visit friends and relatives which would give people quite a cheap break away (No hotel/or car hire) amd people who have second homes in France or Spain may visit them more rather than pay for extra long-haul holidays for instance
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 20:59
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Price elasticity of demand - READ THIS

Price elasticity of demand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I reckon the price elasticity of demand for Ryanair seats is getting close now to being inelastic. There's so much Ryanair capacity (more coming!), lowering fares will just result in lower total revenue. Even though I know I can go Stansted to Gdansk for 5 quid, i still wont go because i dont need to.

Just because Brits might be opportunists and snap up a bargain Ryanair 5 Quid fare to France and a cheap Villa, doesn't mean the Airline or Villa owner won't still be burning through his cash pile!!! That is not a sound business plan.

Again, a 737s burn is the same regardless of number of empty/cheap seats. Its all about the aircraft yield!!! And how can Ryanair now increase theirs????

Just my thoughts......
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 21:15
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How about a comparison with another industry? Look at the supermarket trade and the 2 stores in the UK that are rapidly increasing turnover are: ALDI and LIDL - in the Grocery trade - the 2 LoCos.
Interesting comparison. I have read some analysis recently that the LIDL/ALDI model will run into difficulties in the long term because of the aging population. Going low cost mainly attracts a younger crowd, in whatever market you are. With an ever older population, more traditional business concepts (full service etc.) will become more attractive again as "silver agers" are willing to spend more and go for quality rather than price.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 21:32
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On Ryanair check-in online now appear new routes:

BLQ-GRO
BLQ-BHX
BLQ-CRL
BLQ-DUB
BLQ-HHN
BLQ-STN
BLQ-VLC

are the same flight now operated from FRL, so it's a change of airport moving all flight from FRL to BLQ
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 22:12
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Well, a lot of silver surfers use Ryanair. The younger set tend not to have second homes in France, Spain or Portugal. Ryanair carry more ABC1 category passengers than BA
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