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Since when airports announce the negociations they are running with airlines????
Many airports are being open in advertising for new routes.
Given the bloodbath that airlines have suffered over the last year then maybe its Aena using Ryanair to send a message.
The relationship between them in Reus and Gerona seems to be very good so its quite possible that FR were happy to allow themselves be used because it helps the whole company. Sometimes advertising the strategic intent can force a competitor to react in a way they didn't want and keep them out of a market that you want protecting.
All a bit Machievallean.
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Ok ....regarding baording passes.........On an airbridge there are 3 ways on to it.........by the gate, the stairs and the access stairs on the side
The crew see the pax for the first time at the a/c door, so who are they to know that the pax trying to board without showing their boarding card have walked str8 from the gate???? Ok so a pax boards the wrong plane, and this hasn't been picked up until the head count. Pax first has to be found, the a security search of the area the pax was sitting in, and all the lockers, floor area up to where he.she was sitting.....in other words sometimes quicker to get all pax off, security search and the get them back on!
After all it is called a BOARDING PASS, i.e you are boarding an aircraft hence you have to show it to the crew. Whats the big deal. You show it twice before you get to the aircraft. Security inspect it.......nothing to do with the sirline........the gate staff have a quick glance, but are more concerned with the passport, and finally the crew who are ONLY looking at the barding card , hence more likely to pick up on errors. I get at least 3 pax per day trying to board the wrong flight. Better safe than sorry.. and for the record air france/ KLM do check boarding passes on the plane. They tell you where you are going!!!!!!!
The crew see the pax for the first time at the a/c door, so who are they to know that the pax trying to board without showing their boarding card have walked str8 from the gate???? Ok so a pax boards the wrong plane, and this hasn't been picked up until the head count. Pax first has to be found, the a security search of the area the pax was sitting in, and all the lockers, floor area up to where he.she was sitting.....in other words sometimes quicker to get all pax off, security search and the get them back on!
After all it is called a BOARDING PASS, i.e you are boarding an aircraft hence you have to show it to the crew. Whats the big deal. You show it twice before you get to the aircraft. Security inspect it.......nothing to do with the sirline........the gate staff have a quick glance, but are more concerned with the passport, and finally the crew who are ONLY looking at the barding card , hence more likely to pick up on errors. I get at least 3 pax per day trying to board the wrong flight. Better safe than sorry.. and for the record air france/ KLM do check boarding passes on the plane. They tell you where you are going!!!!!!!
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I think people are trying to read too much into a RYR move to BCN.
Like MAD before, I suspect they have realised that the opening of the new Terminal will give them an opportunity that may not present itself again in a hurry, so wish to avail themselves of it now.
Lots of aircraft coming too, and they have to put them somewhere.
A high percentage of GRO pax (particularly out of season ) are going to Barcelona, given the choice they will assumedly go direct , rather than pass via GRO/REU.
Where this leaves GRO/REU will become apparent at the end of Summer when the client mix tips towards Barcelona & away from Beach. I would be surprised if as many flights pass through the "minor" airports next Winter (if not before) despite the assurances given by MOL. The bookings (or lack of ) will be what determines the mix of flights shared amongst the 3 different bases, not promises.
With Easy/ Veuling offering flights direct to the main airport (rather than having a 1hr transfer ) Ryanair would have been very short sighted to let this one pass them by. As usual, they weren't.
Like MAD before, I suspect they have realised that the opening of the new Terminal will give them an opportunity that may not present itself again in a hurry, so wish to avail themselves of it now.
Lots of aircraft coming too, and they have to put them somewhere.
A high percentage of GRO pax (particularly out of season ) are going to Barcelona, given the choice they will assumedly go direct , rather than pass via GRO/REU.
Where this leaves GRO/REU will become apparent at the end of Summer when the client mix tips towards Barcelona & away from Beach. I would be surprised if as many flights pass through the "minor" airports next Winter (if not before) despite the assurances given by MOL. The bookings (or lack of ) will be what determines the mix of flights shared amongst the 3 different bases, not promises.
With Easy/ Veuling offering flights direct to the main airport (rather than having a 1hr transfer ) Ryanair would have been very short sighted to let this one pass them by. As usual, they weren't.
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Does anyone really believe the ryr spin about the Irish 10 euro departure tax?
If a route is that marginal,then should never have been there in the first place.
I think there are much more serious issues afoot here
If a route is that marginal,then should never have been there in the first place.
I think there are much more serious issues afoot here
I think everyone understands that it's not only the €10 tax that's affecting the Ryanair reduction in Ireland. What I don't understand is how a lot of people don't seem to be accepting that it is having an impact! Recession or no recession, a €10 tax will have a negative impact on numbers - good for a fast government buck but not so good for the wider economy.
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I can see how a tenner would make a difference to a persons choice whether to travel or not.
If you get a fare for €10 then €10 becomes your expectation. Next time you want to fly anything more than that becomes expensive. If you add an extra €10 tax then a person does not see it as only a tenner they see it as a doubling of the fare. It's just human nature.
The punter doesn't care how much of what he or she pays goes where, they only care about the bottom line and that's how much they pay.
I assume Ryanair can subsidise the Irish Government tax by reducing the cost of their take on the return leg of the fare.
If you get a fare for €10 then €10 becomes your expectation. Next time you want to fly anything more than that becomes expensive. If you add an extra €10 tax then a person does not see it as only a tenner they see it as a doubling of the fare. It's just human nature.
The punter doesn't care how much of what he or she pays goes where, they only care about the bottom line and that's how much they pay.
I assume Ryanair can subsidise the Irish Government tax by reducing the cost of their take on the return leg of the fare.
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Mick will earn a few bob by holding on to the Tax for all the no-shows etc!!! Easiest Tenner he'll ever make ...except for the no-show Tenners in the UK of course!!!
I do admit that the 'rest of the industry' seems to be very quiet on this new tax....Not just airlines, but Hoteliers, Tourism Groups etc. MOL is out there on he own on this ...what isn't the country backing him up on same!!
I do admit that the 'rest of the industry' seems to be very quiet on this new tax....Not just airlines, but Hoteliers, Tourism Groups etc. MOL is out there on he own on this ...what isn't the country backing him up on same!!
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I do admit that the 'rest of the industry' seems to be very quiet on this new tax....Not just airlines, but Hoteliers, Tourism Groups etc. MOL is out there on he own on this ...what isn't the country backing him up on same!!
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Am I missing something?. He says the extra tenner will be too much for the punter to bear.....so he removes the services and fails to let the punter decide?......more to this than meets the eye. It seems like an excuse to pop smoke and disappear.
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The rumours about a possible FR base in Krakow (Balice) are becoming harder to ignore. Yesterday KRK was visited by Michael Cawley and the talks concerned "the creation of a base for the carrier's aircraft". And "the concrete proposals were negotiated, including routes".
With Ryanair you never know, but Krakow looks to me as a very smart place to locate a base. FR could attract not only the migrating workforce, but also tourists to visit the city, as a truely enchanting place.
With Ryanair you never know, but Krakow looks to me as a very smart place to locate a base. FR could attract not only the migrating workforce, but also tourists to visit the city, as a truely enchanting place.
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hmm.... KRK would have been a wise choice 2 years ago, but with increased polish navigational fees and a decline in polish migration to western europe, I would be surprised if they chose now as a time to open a base. Remember, KRK was one of the airports the RYR stopped flying to for 6 weeks because of high fees.
However, this is RYR, and the A/C have to go somewhere.
However, this is RYR, and the A/C have to go somewhere.
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Look back over the past 5 years and see how much MOL has increased RYR's stealth taxes. Check-in charges, credit card charges, baggage charges, sports equipment charges, and the iniquitous 'wheel chair levy'. On average they are over 200% higher. The D.Telegraph guessimated that RYR collected 650m euors on charges in 2008. Some have to be paid and are genuine, but many are just stealth charges and go to make up the cost of travel and into RYR's coffers. However, it all allows RYR to continue its claim that their 'ticket' price is the lowest.
"economical with the truth & pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind.
"economical with the truth & pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind.
Any truth in the rumour that Ryanair ( or MOL )have a share holding in TBI ?
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Todays announcement
Any one know what the 39 routes announced today in Madrid are?
www.rte.ie/business/2009/0324/ryanair.html
www.rte.ie/business/2009/0324/ryanair.html
Any one know what the 39 routes announced today in Madrid are?
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9.99
I am always amazed that retailers still sell goods at .99 instead of the whole number - but they have been doing so for many years. I feel that my intelligence is being insulted - but am I being influenced subconsiously? So if you are more likely to buy at 9.99 rather than 10.00 then .01 is a hell of a differentiator considering its size. So perhaps MoL is right as 10.00 is a whole lot bigger than 0.01
