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Does anyone else think that a new york service is viable? Silverjet had good loads just money problems maybe continental would look at picking it up? And even a toronto route could be achieved or am i being ambitious?
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Andyafc, yes - I think you may be a bit ambitious here. Silverjet had good loads at times, but they were quite thin some days, and if memory serves right the second daily New York EWR took a long time to get anywhere near maturity. DXB was similar. There was also the question of how much yield was actually made on the seats sold. There were some good deals to be had.
Can't see any airline coming back into long haul from LTN for quite a while given the slow recovery from recession and the still-quite-high fuel prices, and especially not Continental as they have mergers on their mind.
Now where I do see marks of recovery is in the corporate GA end of aviation, where all three of our FBOs seem to be doing better and are increasingly busy. Full marks especially to Ocean Sky, who seem to be making a go of it so far - and now, as we know, have bought a LTN hangar.
Can't see any airline coming back into long haul from LTN for quite a while given the slow recovery from recession and the still-quite-high fuel prices, and especially not Continental as they have mergers on their mind.
Now where I do see marks of recovery is in the corporate GA end of aviation, where all three of our FBOs seem to be doing better and are increasingly busy. Full marks especially to Ocean Sky, who seem to be making a go of it so far - and now, as we know, have bought a LTN hangar.
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Wizzair
Will Wizzair run to Gatwick while Luton Airport releases such a press release?
"Six years ago Wizz Air launched its very first service from Katowice in Poland to London Luton, today Wizz Air is one of the largest low fare - low cost airlines in Central and Eastern Europe carrying over 8 million passengers per year across its network.
Continuing this success story at London Luton, Wizz Air has recently announced the addition of further new routes to Split and Dubrovnik in Croatia, bringing the total number of routes to 19. At London Luton Airport, Wizz Air now offers flights to Poland, Hungary, Romania, Latvia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine.
As well as celebrating six years of operation, Wizz Air can also boast carrying 6 million passengers in 6 years from London Luton Airport.
Simon Harley, Airline Manager, London Luton Airport, said, "In just six years Wizz Air has opened up Central and Eastern Europe with low-cost travel. We are delighted that Wizz Air has chosen London Luton to be partner in their success story and we look forward to celebrating many more milestones together in the future".
"Six years ago Wizz Air launched its very first service from Katowice in Poland to London Luton, today Wizz Air is one of the largest low fare - low cost airlines in Central and Eastern Europe carrying over 8 million passengers per year across its network.
Continuing this success story at London Luton, Wizz Air has recently announced the addition of further new routes to Split and Dubrovnik in Croatia, bringing the total number of routes to 19. At London Luton Airport, Wizz Air now offers flights to Poland, Hungary, Romania, Latvia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine.
As well as celebrating six years of operation, Wizz Air can also boast carrying 6 million passengers in 6 years from London Luton Airport.
Simon Harley, Airline Manager, London Luton Airport, said, "In just six years Wizz Air has opened up Central and Eastern Europe with low-cost travel. We are delighted that Wizz Air has chosen London Luton to be partner in their success story and we look forward to celebrating many more milestones together in the future".
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Yes seems like Treviso has been dropped! On the latest press release on the LTN website, celebrating Wizzair's 6th Birthday it states the airline will operate 19 routes from the airport and I remember previous releases stating the airline would operate 20 routes from LTN this summer.
Also only Split and Dubrovnik routes are mentioned as the new routes they will be flying... I just hope these are not dropped, I have booked to fly to Split with them in September and working our way down a few islands to Dubrivnik and flying back from there...
Got a good deal, £78 return...
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Andyafc, as previously mentioned I doubt we'll see any long haul routes from LTN anytime soon. The big carriers require premium traffic to fill these aircraft and operate them profitable, they operate very differently to the likes of how SilverJet did! This is likly to be a sector of the market LTN would struggle attracting, the EL-AL route from LTN is aimed at a very specific market, which can allow them to fill this cabin.
Continental a few years back could have been a possible candidate to operate a flight to Newark using a 757 - serving the North London area as back then they only operated from Gatwick. Now the Bermuda 2 restrictions have been lifted on airlines flying between Heathrow and the USA, they have moved all operations there, and would think LTN is too close by...
I had a friend who worked for Canadian Affair, and early last year he told me the tour operator was in talks with LTN to launch a weekly service to Toronto using an Air Transat A310, between June and September 2009. But due to the economic situation this route never materialised... Im not sure if this was meant to be a direct service or operated via another UK airport, as some of their routes operate like this to ensure they fill the plane. Like they currently operate Toronto-Exeter-Birmingham-Toronto.
It could possible happen sometime in the future, at the moment they operate over 40 a week from LGW to many Canadian cities using Air Transat and Thomas Cook. WOuld be good to see them north of the Thames serving this area!
Also unlike STN and LGW, LTN has a shortish runway so is unable to attract the likes of Air Asia X who operate an A340-300 from Stansted to Kuala Lumpar.
Also only Split and Dubrovnik routes are mentioned as the new routes they will be flying... I just hope these are not dropped, I have booked to fly to Split with them in September and working our way down a few islands to Dubrivnik and flying back from there...
Got a good deal, £78 return...
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Andyafc, as previously mentioned I doubt we'll see any long haul routes from LTN anytime soon. The big carriers require premium traffic to fill these aircraft and operate them profitable, they operate very differently to the likes of how SilverJet did! This is likly to be a sector of the market LTN would struggle attracting, the EL-AL route from LTN is aimed at a very specific market, which can allow them to fill this cabin.
Continental a few years back could have been a possible candidate to operate a flight to Newark using a 757 - serving the North London area as back then they only operated from Gatwick. Now the Bermuda 2 restrictions have been lifted on airlines flying between Heathrow and the USA, they have moved all operations there, and would think LTN is too close by...
I had a friend who worked for Canadian Affair, and early last year he told me the tour operator was in talks with LTN to launch a weekly service to Toronto using an Air Transat A310, between June and September 2009. But due to the economic situation this route never materialised... Im not sure if this was meant to be a direct service or operated via another UK airport, as some of their routes operate like this to ensure they fill the plane. Like they currently operate Toronto-Exeter-Birmingham-Toronto.
It could possible happen sometime in the future, at the moment they operate over 40 a week from LGW to many Canadian cities using Air Transat and Thomas Cook. WOuld be good to see them north of the Thames serving this area!
Also unlike STN and LGW, LTN has a shortish runway so is unable to attract the likes of Air Asia X who operate an A340-300 from Stansted to Kuala Lumpar.
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Wizz Treviso
I had a look at the Wizz website yesterday, and Treviso from LTN was still shown on their timetable, but operating Saturdays only.
Re El Al - yes, that is doing well, and load factors seem to have recovered now that a number of those who tried the easyJet competition have realised that what El Al offer in terms of service and baggage allowances can't be equalled by a low-cost carrier charging low-cost fares.
Re El Al - yes, that is doing well, and load factors seem to have recovered now that a number of those who tried the easyJet competition have realised that what El Al offer in terms of service and baggage allowances can't be equalled by a low-cost carrier charging low-cost fares.
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EZY this winter
Just got a nice email telling EZY's winter flights are bookable "to all my favorite destinations like Malaga, Faro and Alicante so I clicked on ALC
"The route you have selected is only on sale until 2 November bla bla bla
Great marketing!
Anyone kwno whether it isn't operating or they've mucked up the message.
"The route you have selected is only on sale until 2 November bla bla bla
Great marketing!
Anyone kwno whether it isn't operating or they've mucked up the message.
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Thomson Airways
Additional based aircraft or just more W patterns?
"London Luton Airport is delighted to announce the launch of new Winter sun holidays to Madeira and Tunisia with Thomson and First Choice holidays.
Thomson Airways, (the airline for both Thomson and First Choice holidays) the largest charter airline at London Luton Airport has announced a 16% increase in package holidays for the forthcoming winter season with new weekly services to Funchal, Madeira and Monastir, Tunisia commencing late October 2010.
Simon Harley, Airline Manager, London Luton Airport, said, “We are delighted to announce new Winter routes with Thomson and First Choice for passengers to get some much needed Winter sun. These new routes will provide yet more choice for our passengers to get away. ’ "
"London Luton Airport is delighted to announce the launch of new Winter sun holidays to Madeira and Tunisia with Thomson and First Choice holidays.
Thomson Airways, (the airline for both Thomson and First Choice holidays) the largest charter airline at London Luton Airport has announced a 16% increase in package holidays for the forthcoming winter season with new weekly services to Funchal, Madeira and Monastir, Tunisia commencing late October 2010.
Simon Harley, Airline Manager, London Luton Airport, said, “We are delighted to announce new Winter routes with Thomson and First Choice for passengers to get some much needed Winter sun. These new routes will provide yet more choice for our passengers to get away. ’ "
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Probbaly just increased utilisation. Its not uncommon for charter aircraft just to do one flight a day in winter, so a second flight can easily be added if needed
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Thomson New Routes?
If my memory is correct these two 'new' services to Funchal and Monastir by TUI (Thomson) were operated until a couple of years ago during the winter. The Funchal service was flown by a Monarch A320. A bit of spin going on here me thinks with the word 'new' - should be 'reinstated' but that does not quite sound right on a press release!
According to the Thomson website the flights will be operated by a Luton-based aircraft with both early morning departures.
According to the Thomson website the flights will be operated by a Luton-based aircraft with both early morning departures.
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Easy @ NCL
for winter
pmi mjv both dropped and a big reduction in other to agp,fao,cdg etc
looks like ncl is only going to be 3 based aircraft instead of 5.
heard that other airports are getting routes cut also for this coming winter
pmi mjv both dropped and a big reduction in other to agp,fao,cdg etc
looks like ncl is only going to be 3 based aircraft instead of 5.
heard that other airports are getting routes cut also for this coming winter
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Thomson Airways, (the airline for both Thomson and First Choice holidays) the largest charter airline at London Luton Airport has announced a 16% increase in package holidays for the forthcoming winter season with new weekly services to Funchal, Madeira and Monastir, Tunisia commencing late October 2010.
If an increase of two flights a week on the winter program increases the number of flights by 16% that Thomson will be flying, it just shows how few flights Thomson now fly from LTN.
My maths isn't great, but I reckon that makes it 14 flights a week they will be operating. That could probably be easily operated by just one aircraft based at the airport (early morning and mid-afternoon departure), depending on the schedules.
I remember when Thomson back around 2000-2002 there were two 757's based at the airport in the winter, and you also saw Airtours and First Choice basing an A320 at the airport in the winters.
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Thomson Flights
Times have changed Giles, more people from the UK are doing long haul than they did ten years ago and Luton really does not do long haul execpt for the odd cruise charter and with punters falling out with the Eurozone countries and venturing further afield it is only natural that Thomson do less flights from Luton and concentrate on long haul from Gatwick, Manchester etc.
On a another topic it looks like easy are reducing there winter programme from many UK airports including Luton - one suggestion which is very plausible is to try and reduce their losses in the winter so it looks better on the balance sheet - comments please.
On a another topic it looks like easy are reducing there winter programme from many UK airports including Luton - one suggestion which is very plausible is to try and reduce their losses in the winter so it looks better on the balance sheet - comments please.
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easy Winter Reductions
I think Compton3Bravo is absolutely right. easyJet's winter schedule from LTN has seen heavy reductions already in Winter 2008-9, and a little less in Winter 2009-10. That was before the highly-publicised row with both Abertis and LBC. At least, there were less spare aircraft sat around last winter.
If many UK airports are to see winter reductions in 2010-11, presumably the affected fleet aircraft will operate other European routes on W-patterns returning to UK at night (as at LTN per the long-term contract with the operator), or be based away. At least it results in less aircraft being parked up.
On the other hand, could we be in for easyJet fleet reductions in total? If so, Stelios has won his boardroom battle!
If many UK airports are to see winter reductions in 2010-11, presumably the affected fleet aircraft will operate other European routes on W-patterns returning to UK at night (as at LTN per the long-term contract with the operator), or be based away. At least it results in less aircraft being parked up.
On the other hand, could we be in for easyJet fleet reductions in total? If so, Stelios has won his boardroom battle!
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Loss of ALC not a problem as I am sure ZB will pick up any stragglers.
But what of NCE -does this have reasonable loads in the winter- would ZB or FlyBe be interested - or even Wizz.
LTN-NCE would be a viable and cost effective DH4 route.
But what of NCE -does this have reasonable loads in the winter- would ZB or FlyBe be interested - or even Wizz.
LTN-NCE would be a viable and cost effective DH4 route.
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Loss of ALC not a problem as I am sure ZB will pick up any stragglers.
That only leaves Ryanair serving this region of Spain and that is to Murcia and that is not very convenient for travellers to the likes of Benidorm.
Monarch have had their winter timetable on sale for some time now, but there could be a chance they continue flying to ALC this winter, now they know they have competition from easyJet.
But what of NCE -does this have reasonable loads in the winter- would ZB or FlyBe be interested - or even Wizz.
LTN-NCE would be a viable and cost effective DH4 route.
LTN-NCE would be a viable and cost effective DH4 route.
The odd Embraer 195 or Q400 based here would be great!
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That only leaves Ryanair serving this region of Spain and that is to Murcia and that is not very convenient for travellers to the likes of Benidorm.
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Hopefully you might be a bit premature Powerjet about Murcia and Trapani as I see that not all of the routes have been loaded on the drop down section at Ryanair unless of course there are dropping a lot of routes i.e. Teneriffe South which I would not have thought so for the winter.
Alicante is quite odd I should have thought a twice weekly service from Luton especially if they are operating services from other UK airports could be viable if only one operator but why should I know! I see also easy are adding a Friday service to Tel Aviv throughout the winter making it a daily service.
Alicante is quite odd I should have thought a twice weekly service from Luton especially if they are operating services from other UK airports could be viable if only one operator but why should I know! I see also easy are adding a Friday service to Tel Aviv throughout the winter making it a daily service.