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Looks like ryanair will be going with him, in the wake of redundancies and cut backs they are now talking about a charge for toilet usage! Sounds like a company going down the pan to me
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Redwings, your determined and very negative anti-FR stance always makes me smile....i'm not sure what on earth they could have done to offend you so much 
They are not my favourite company either but hey they sure have been a much needed boost for the travelling public who now have direct flights from BHX to a much greater range of European cities then a few years ago
I don't think they will be going anywhere at the moment, toilet charge or not. If they do then a whole lot of flights go missing at BHX which in these difficult economic times no airport can afford to lose, least of all for its employees who rely on a successful and profitable airport company to pay their wages
They are not my favourite company either but hey they sure have been a much needed boost for the travelling public who now have direct flights from BHX to a much greater range of European cities then a few years ago
I don't think they will be going anywhere at the moment, toilet charge or not. If they do then a whole lot of flights go missing at BHX which in these difficult economic times no airport can afford to lose, least of all for its employees who rely on a successful and profitable airport company to pay their wages
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Gayfriendly, it is that exact reliance on the likes of Ryanair that will lead to a reduction in your terms and conditions and possibly your job, which ryanair have done so much to damage in the European aviation industry! Be wary who you welcome with open arms I have always seen ryan as a bit of a "Trojan horse," Just look what happened at STN amongst others!
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Wasn't it the same reliance on BA that eventually opened the door for FR (amongst others) at BHX? I think it is quite ironic that the very airline who a while ago predicted BA would leave BHX is now one of its dominant carriers
Having said that, no single airline should be allowed to dominate at an airport, no matter who they are. Trojan Horse they might be but I don't see another practical alternative at the present time.
I think BHX has a good mix of scheduled airlines, although it could be argued that the arrival of FR has had a detrimental effect on Babys plans at Brum as well as being responsible for seeing off others
Do FR fly to cities? No, not all the time. But last time I looked Marseille, Bologna, Stockholm and Oslo were all called cities, well they were when I did my Geography O Level
(thats a while ago now....)
Having said that, no single airline should be allowed to dominate at an airport, no matter who they are. Trojan Horse they might be but I don't see another practical alternative at the present time.
I think BHX has a good mix of scheduled airlines, although it could be argued that the arrival of FR has had a detrimental effect on Babys plans at Brum as well as being responsible for seeing off others
Do FR fly to cities? No, not all the time. But last time I looked Marseille, Bologna, Stockholm and Oslo were all called cities, well they were when I did my Geography O Level
(thats a while ago now....)
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Gayfriendly, it is that exact reliance on the likes of Ryanair that will lead to a reduction in your terms and conditions and possibly your job, which ryanair have done so much to damage in the European aviation industry! Be wary who you welcome with open arms I have always seen ryan as a bit of a "Trojan horse," Just look what happened at STN amongst others!
I remember people saying we would not survive if BA pulled out
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Torp being nowhere near Oslo is only the same as Stansted being 45 miles or so from London (in my book thats nowhere near!) but still being called London Stansted.
Airport names and the way FR uses them is all about marketing and creating demand, after all before they flew there, I had never even heard of Torp let alone in which country it is in. So I doubt I would have ever considered flying there had it been advertised as Torp. But now you mention Oslo, aha, maybe I will now consider it........its better than having no service to Oslo at all I suppose.
Oslo and Stocholm aside all other airports FR fly to from BHX are the 'main' city airports? Definately the case for BLQ as FR moved there from Forli.
Airport names and the way FR uses them is all about marketing and creating demand, after all before they flew there, I had never even heard of Torp let alone in which country it is in. So I doubt I would have ever considered flying there had it been advertised as Torp. But now you mention Oslo, aha, maybe I will now consider it........its better than having no service to Oslo at all I suppose.
Oslo and Stocholm aside all other airports FR fly to from BHX are the 'main' city airports? Definately the case for BLQ as FR moved there from Forli.
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London is very much larger than Oslo, Stockholm, Frankfurt. Or most cities for that matter.
Gayfriendly: Had'nt they changed over to GCSE's when you took your exams. I was probably on a YTS by then.
Gayfriendly: Had'nt they changed over to GCSE's when you took your exams. I was probably on a YTS by then.
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FR have long been the source of comment here - however we have fared better through the credit crunch with them then we would have without them. The only way forward in this industry is to have a range of carriers touching all markets including low cost and neither relying on any of them too much nor encouraging new operators too little. BIA have been heavily criticised in the past for thinking BA were going to reciprocate the loyalty shown to them. I think we have to work together to keep our side of the service running smoothly and make BHX an attractive airport - and I think we do this pretty well. Birmingham Airport does have a very loyal and hardworking staff.
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Very wise words Phil, it's important for BHX to have a range of carriers and FR fill a much needed void for affordable routes, whether you like them or not is you preference and you're entitled to it of course. What is impressive at BHX at the moment is the very clear plan to have full service carriers in place where needed whilst FR work around them. To me it's a good plan and in the current economic climate is paying dividends when compared to ther airports around the UK.
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FR will drive away other carriers and over time reduce the profit the airport can make. FR will use as little of the airport as possible and work it hard. As soon as something breaks the airport will to blame.
What FR brings is footfall not profit. This may suit an airport going for expansion but FR will run a mile if they are charged for it. This then brings the question of if the longer runway will happen. It seem BAA have done a secret deal with mandy to get the 3rd runway at Heathrow and that would kill the overflow trade from south east. With pax down around 10% in jan the industry is not going to manage even a little expansion until there is certainy that others are not expanding as well. Each business case is going to be re-done and each airport will need to show a poker face to hide its real plans.
What FR brings is footfall not profit. This may suit an airport going for expansion but FR will run a mile if they are charged for it. This then brings the question of if the longer runway will happen. It seem BAA have done a secret deal with mandy to get the 3rd runway at Heathrow and that would kill the overflow trade from south east. With pax down around 10% in jan the industry is not going to manage even a little expansion until there is certainy that others are not expanding as well. Each business case is going to be re-done and each airport will need to show a poker face to hide its real plans.
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Air Sylhet
Flights are now up for sale BHX-VIE-ATQ
SL 1001 Depart BHX 18.30 Wednesday WEF 8.4.09
SL 1002 Arrive BHX 19.00 Thursday WEF 9.4.09
SL 1001 Depart BHX 18.30 Saturday WEF 11.4.09
SL 1002 Arrive BHX 19.00 Sunday 12.4.09
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SL 1001 Depart BHX 18.30 Wednesday WEF 8.4.09
SL 1002 Arrive BHX 19.00 Thursday WEF 9.4.09
SL 1001 Depart BHX 18.30 Saturday WEF 11.4.09
SL 1002 Arrive BHX 19.00 Sunday 12.4.09
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Great news and a welcome boost for BHX, but this routes track record is not the best - it seems like a real poisoned chalice......
Fingers crossed they get off the ground (unlike Globespan and Bilga Air) and stick around longer than AI as there seems to be a real demand for this route I guess it just needs the right operator.
Fingers crossed they get off the ground (unlike Globespan and Bilga Air) and stick around longer than AI as there seems to be a real demand for this route I guess it just needs the right operator.
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It would be even better news had this airline ever flown before....Look at their website. Even the aircraft pictured is an Easy Jet photo shop job...Still fingers crossed eh??
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What's happened to Air india, all the publicity put out when they pulled out last year said the move was temporary and they would be back during the course of this year. Has the temporary now become permament?