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Looks like Emirates will have some competition to serve the biggest Bangladeshi population outside London.
I always thought that the largest outside London was the North west?
When Bimans DAC-BRU-JFK flight was loosing money hand over fist, Im sure I read that the switch was made to DAC-MAN-JFK as it was the largest area outside London and that would help fill out the cabins?
I always thought that the largest outside London was the North west?
When Bimans DAC-BRU-JFK flight was loosing money hand over fist, Im sure I read that the switch was made to DAC-MAN-JFK as it was the largest area outside London and that would help fill out the cabins?
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jimmysam
Cheers for that, I was looking for that article. Another article states that
Air India have not been able to lease out their 777's as nobody will pay what AI want to cover their finance charges. Although this I believe mainly related to the 77L's rather than the 77W's.
However it still begs the question if BHX was so profitable as they claimed (although whether this was reported correctly I don't know) why have not restarted it with so many spare aircraft or are they about to?
wanna_be_there
That well know source which is never wrong
states Birmingham has the second largest population (Bangladeshi) outside of London at 23000 but Westword in Lancs has the highest concentration in one area outside of London - I assume more spread out in the West Mids.
However Dacca by TK is very welcome and their expansion in general makes EK look like small fry.
Heard about the A380 compliance and fingers crossed for late 2011, early 2012. I believe EK have received their last A380 until September 2011.
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Cheers for that, I was looking for that article. Another article states that
Air India have not been able to lease out their 777's as nobody will pay what AI want to cover their finance charges. Although this I believe mainly related to the 77L's rather than the 77W's.
However it still begs the question if BHX was so profitable as they claimed (although whether this was reported correctly I don't know) why have not restarted it with so many spare aircraft or are they about to?
wanna_be_there
That well know source which is never wrong
states Birmingham has the second largest population (Bangladeshi) outside of London at 23000 but Westword in Lancs has the highest concentration in one area outside of London - I assume more spread out in the West Mids.However Dacca by TK is very welcome and their expansion in general makes EK look like small fry
.Heard about the A380 compliance and fingers crossed for late 2011, early 2012. I believe EK have received their last A380 until September 2011.
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I always thought that the largest outside London was the North west?
When Bimans DAC-BRU-JFK flight was loosing money hand over fist, Im sure I read that the switch was made to DAC-MAN-JFK as it was the largest area outside London and that would help fill out the cabins?
As of 2006 estimates from the National Statistics West Midlands has a slightly larger Bangladeshi population than the North West.
Demographics of British Bangladeshis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British Bangladeshi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The North West Bengali community live in concentrated areas mainly situated around Oldham and Rochdale. They have a very strong community and have fought for their right to a direct flight as the distance from Heathrow to the North West is too much.
Both Birmingham and Manchester have Bangladeshi Assistant High commission offices.
The Birmingham Bangladeshi community being so close to Heathrow never really had the need to fight for a direct flight. Things are now changing; all though they are not fighting for a direct flight the 2nd, 3rd generation Bangladeshi community are ever increasingly using flights through Dubai to Dhaka. They will have more options once Turkish starts flying to Dhaka.
The so called airlines Air Sylhet and Royal Bengal Airlines had aspirations to fly from Birmingham and Manchester. I know they are paper airlines but it’s only because Birmingham has a market that they have considered them.
United Airways Bangladesh wishes to fly to Birmingham and Manchester. Will these airlines ever deliver?
If only the Bangladeshi government worried less about pride and prestige and more about making the airline profitable. They should serve gatwick or stansted 5 times a week and Birmingham Manchester once weekly.
But well done for the MAG and the north west Bangladeshi community for getting the direct flight. Unlike Birmingham who have not even mentioned Dhaka as a possible destination even as far as the year 2030.
I always thought that the largest outside London was the North west?
When Bimans DAC-BRU-JFK flight was loosing money hand over fist, Im sure I read that the switch was made to DAC-MAN-JFK as it was the largest area outside London and that would help fill out the cabins?
As of 2006 estimates from the National Statistics West Midlands has a slightly larger Bangladeshi population than the North West.
Demographics of British Bangladeshis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
British Bangladeshi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The North West Bengali community live in concentrated areas mainly situated around Oldham and Rochdale. They have a very strong community and have fought for their right to a direct flight as the distance from Heathrow to the North West is too much.
Both Birmingham and Manchester have Bangladeshi Assistant High commission offices.
The Birmingham Bangladeshi community being so close to Heathrow never really had the need to fight for a direct flight. Things are now changing; all though they are not fighting for a direct flight the 2nd, 3rd generation Bangladeshi community are ever increasingly using flights through Dubai to Dhaka. They will have more options once Turkish starts flying to Dhaka.
The so called airlines Air Sylhet and Royal Bengal Airlines had aspirations to fly from Birmingham and Manchester. I know they are paper airlines but it’s only because Birmingham has a market that they have considered them.
United Airways Bangladesh wishes to fly to Birmingham and Manchester. Will these airlines ever deliver?
If only the Bangladeshi government worried less about pride and prestige and more about making the airline profitable. They should serve gatwick or stansted 5 times a week and Birmingham Manchester once weekly.
But well done for the MAG and the north west Bangladeshi community for getting the direct flight. Unlike Birmingham who have not even mentioned Dhaka as a possible destination even as far as the year 2030.
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As of 2006 estimates from the National Statistics
Whilst there is a chance that things havent changed, the world changes so quickly these days that I wouldnt trust figures from 4 years ago.
The world is in a very different place since 2006.
They should serve gatwick or stansted 5 times a week and Birmingham Manchester once weekly.
I dont see whay ANY airline should operate ANY route 1 weekly, Its so pointless. If you miss it, you have to wait a week till the next one, and what about all those travellers who want to fly the other 6 days of the week? Also, what about business, cant really wait 3-4 days before you can travel out. You might as well not even offer the bloomin route!
RE A380.
Heard about the A380 compliance and fingers crossed for late 2011, early 2012
Sorry to burst the bubble, but BHX has to wait for the 2 class A380, and there is no deffinate date set for their EIS. The next UK A380 is for the 2nd daily MAN route, then depending on 2 class EIS, ither LHR gets a 3rd or BHX gets their bird.
Whilst there is a chance that things havent changed, the world changes so quickly these days that I wouldnt trust figures from 4 years ago.
The world is in a very different place since 2006.
They should serve gatwick or stansted 5 times a week and Birmingham Manchester once weekly.
I dont see whay ANY airline should operate ANY route 1 weekly, Its so pointless. If you miss it, you have to wait a week till the next one, and what about all those travellers who want to fly the other 6 days of the week? Also, what about business, cant really wait 3-4 days before you can travel out. You might as well not even offer the bloomin route!
RE A380.
Heard about the A380 compliance and fingers crossed for late 2011, early 2012
Sorry to burst the bubble, but BHX has to wait for the 2 class A380, and there is no deffinate date set for their EIS. The next UK A380 is for the 2nd daily MAN route, then depending on 2 class EIS, ither LHR gets a 3rd or BHX gets their bird.
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johnnychips
I have no idea - just quoting wiki -
"60% of Bangladeshis in Oldham lived in Westwood, the highest concentration outside London"
A380
The October passenger figures indicate that there is plenty of capacity as it is at present and it will be interesting to see if November was better. It was the first month of completely all two class 77W's.
Assuming QR priced BHX-DOH-ATQ reasonably then I assume Mahan Air would be the first to be affected and of course Turkmen is now seven weekly at present and that would be tough to maintain.
However we are talking QR here and the rumours have run for years although to be fair not fuelled by BHX itself.
Small change but SAS seemed to have come through this time and the MD has re-appeared on the morning service, which is quite an increase from the CR9. The evening remains CR9.
Pete
I have no idea - just quoting wiki -
"60% of Bangladeshis in Oldham lived in Westwood, the highest concentration outside London"
A380
The October passenger figures indicate that there is plenty of capacity as it is at present and it will be interesting to see if November was better. It was the first month of completely all two class 77W's.
Assuming QR priced BHX-DOH-ATQ reasonably then I assume Mahan Air would be the first to be affected and of course Turkmen is now seven weekly at present and that would be tough to maintain.
However we are talking QR here and the rumours have run for years although to be fair not fuelled by BHX itself.
Small change but SAS seemed to have come through this time and the MD has re-appeared on the morning service, which is quite an increase from the CR9. The evening remains CR9.
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Flights to BCN
I realise that FR is still having a battle with Girona as there are no flights yet available to there from either BHX or EMA from 1st April.
REU is available but that is useless if your destination is the Costa Brava.
So - I thought of flying to BCN and I cannot find any direct flights from BHX.
Is it me or has BCN dropped off the chart?
Can any FR experts suggest when post 1st April FR flights to GRO are likely to become in range?If at all?
REU is available but that is useless if your destination is the Costa Brava.
So - I thought of flying to BCN and I cannot find any direct flights from BHX.
Is it me or has BCN dropped off the chart?
Can any FR experts suggest when post 1st April FR flights to GRO are likely to become in range?If at all?
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Sorry ssflyer, BCN is just one of many city destinations that are not served from BHX. It was last done by bmibaby I think they stopped in June this year. Depending on where you live, there are flights avilable from BRS, LTN, LPL and (I think?) MAN - these are all airports us Brummies have to regularly use to catch a direct flight into Europe!!
As for FR well with their track record at BHX anything is possible, they may well continue GRO, they might start BCN (OK thats a long shot) but in reality they will probably do neither - how long is a piece of string?
As for FR well with their track record at BHX anything is possible, they may well continue GRO, they might start BCN (OK thats a long shot) but in reality they will probably do neither - how long is a piece of string?
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Well don't want to depress you even more but even the original winter
bright spots are slowly being dimmed.
It has been reported on another site that the extra Turkmen 738 flights
which started in November are to end and not replaced by 757's.
Malta which Ryanair start next Wednesday is still not bookable after
the end of March. This would leave on Thomson 738 a week after May.
I still hope that they are waiting to finalise the schedule to decide which
base it will operate from!!!
BHX - Weeze is now showing no availability from the end of March a change from the aircraft symbol in a circle which usually indicates that it will be released or is under review.
Yes Reus is it at the moment until the GRO talks are finalised.
Seville is indeed a blow as was RAK when East Mids was chosen over BHX.
BHX does seem to be at the bottom of FR's list for new routes at present.
Pete
bright spots are slowly being dimmed.
It has been reported on another site that the extra Turkmen 738 flights
which started in November are to end and not replaced by 757's.
Malta which Ryanair start next Wednesday is still not bookable after
the end of March. This would leave on Thomson 738 a week after May.
I still hope that they are waiting to finalise the schedule to decide which
base it will operate from!!!
BHX - Weeze is now showing no availability from the end of March a change from the aircraft symbol in a circle which usually indicates that it will be released or is under review.
Yes Reus is it at the moment until the GRO talks are finalised.
Seville is indeed a blow as was RAK when East Mids was chosen over BHX.
BHX does seem to be at the bottom of FR's list for new routes at present.
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Ryanair recruiting at everywhere apart from BHX !
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As an ex regular traveller from BHX if one wants to fly from BHX to Asia an optimum airline to use for the purpose is Emirates ..... because it stops circa halfway breaking up the monotony, allows a stretch of the legs and a smoker a few cigarettes.
That's what a lot of the middle east airlines are useful for, from BHX other choices are KLM, LH, Swiss, SAS, AF etc. but they involve one short sector and one hell of a long and boring sector.
Another middle east airline for BHX would be good, the majority of passengers just use the middle east for transitting.
That's what a lot of the middle east airlines are useful for, from BHX other choices are KLM, LH, Swiss, SAS, AF etc. but they involve one short sector and one hell of a long and boring sector.
Another middle east airline for BHX would be good, the majority of passengers just use the middle east for transitting.
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Monarch
Anyone any ideas what's forcing Monarch to consolidate their flights in January - just a month away!
My return from Faro to Bhx on January 18 has been cancelled and a return on January 20 offered in it its place...
For me the extra two days is not a prob, but for others it could well be.
My return from Faro to Bhx on January 18 has been cancelled and a return on January 20 offered in it its place...
For me the extra two days is not a prob, but for others it could well be.
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Seems the same happens each year with Faro, Malaga and Alicante except this year they have left it later than usual. Malaga losing one rotation a week for four weeks as well.
I have noticed the winter 2011/2 schedule is out and Faro has been cut
to what it is now mainly three weekly and two in January. It operated 4 weekly or even five weekly in November this year.
They have added a third Larnaca all winter no doubt taking advantage
of Cyprus Airways withdrawal.
Astraeus
Their Santa flights have not started too well from BHX with a delay on last nights inbound from Enontekio. Reported as a 735 tech out there and this morning the same aircraft came in empty from East Midlands to operate today's flight which is now running a bit late.
It was said a 73G went out to recover the pax and the Enontekio site shows last nights outbound departing five hours late but BHX arrivals show it still to arrive.
Pete
Seems the same happens each year with Faro, Malaga and Alicante except this year they have left it later than usual. Malaga losing one rotation a week for four weeks as well.
I have noticed the winter 2011/2 schedule is out and Faro has been cut
to what it is now mainly three weekly and two in January. It operated 4 weekly or even five weekly in November this year.
They have added a third Larnaca all winter no doubt taking advantage
of Cyprus Airways withdrawal.
Astraeus
Their Santa flights have not started too well from BHX with a delay on last nights inbound from Enontekio. Reported as a 735 tech out there and this morning the same aircraft came in empty from East Midlands to operate today's flight which is now running a bit late.
It was said a 73G went out to recover the pax and the Enontekio site shows last nights outbound departing five hours late but BHX arrivals show it still to arrive.
Pete
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There are far more Bengalis living in Birmingham than there are in Manchester.Having worked in Small Heath for many years I know the community really wanted a service from Birmingham,but forced to go to LHR, then for a while Manchester.
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Again not from BHX, FR to start from EMA end of March. I think it's quite clear where BHX sits in FR's plans and that's nowhere! I can only think that there has been some disagreements with BIA over charges (or something else?), or that they simply aren't doing well yield/pax wise, that they are sitting out the contract and will up sticks as soon as there are no penalties to pay for doing so. What a damp squib they have proven to be.
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Re BHX A380 compliant
Think there needs to be a reality check here.It was great to see the EK A380 in BHX Sept 2009, however that was a special event, where other planes were put in the hold and others had departures retimed to facilitate..why?
The taxiways are too narrow in places leading to the visiting A380 to travel at snails pace, and the pilots need special awards foe squeezing a turn in onto the runway.
Then traffic was held after it landed,as the runway isn't wide enough to accommadate the engines over it.So they had to close the runway do a vehicle inspection along its entire length, in case debris had been blown onto it (another AF Concorde type incident god forbid).
Then after take off the runway closed again for another inspection.
Therefore BHX is a long way from being operationally ready to accept a 380 daily without causing a lot of disruption to other airlines..
Less of a problem but Catering companies will need to order 2nd deck loaders and A380 tug as BHX doesn't have any, and had to borrow both for the 2009 visit and a 380 tow bar.. Reality check over !
The taxiways are too narrow in places leading to the visiting A380 to travel at snails pace, and the pilots need special awards foe squeezing a turn in onto the runway.
Then traffic was held after it landed,as the runway isn't wide enough to accommadate the engines over it.So they had to close the runway do a vehicle inspection along its entire length, in case debris had been blown onto it (another AF Concorde type incident god forbid).
Then after take off the runway closed again for another inspection.
Therefore BHX is a long way from being operationally ready to accept a 380 daily without causing a lot of disruption to other airlines..
Less of a problem but Catering companies will need to order 2nd deck loaders and A380 tug as BHX doesn't have any, and had to borrow both for the 2009 visit and a 380 tow bar.. Reality check over !
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I think BHX has time to prepare, but they actually need to start preparations.
EK wont send an A380 to BHX until at LEAST 2012, so thats just over a year to make any modifications.
Anyway, whats happening with the ever shrinking FR presence at BHX. I wonder if its time for a complete re-shuffle, get rid of FR and work damn hard at attracting someone like jet2 or easyjet.
Easyjet have no midlands presence, and im sure if BHX offered the same rates to EZY as they do FR, they could be persuaded.
With BHX having some good charter connections as well as scheduled, im sure jet2 could find a good niche of holiday/city routes, as surely this will be better than a shakey performance from FR at the least.
EK wont send an A380 to BHX until at LEAST 2012, so thats just over a year to make any modifications.
Anyway, whats happening with the ever shrinking FR presence at BHX. I wonder if its time for a complete re-shuffle, get rid of FR and work damn hard at attracting someone like jet2 or easyjet.
Easyjet have no midlands presence, and im sure if BHX offered the same rates to EZY as they do FR, they could be persuaded.
With BHX having some good charter connections as well as scheduled, im sure jet2 could find a good niche of holiday/city routes, as surely this will be better than a shakey performance from FR at the least.