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Incident
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More photo's and footage now available and looking at this it is amazing
how they survived especially the guy in the LHS.
BBC News - Birmingham airport reopens after private jet crash
BBC News - Footage of plane being removed from the runway at Birmingham Airport
Pete
More photo's and footage now available and looking at this it is amazing
how they survived especially the guy in the LHS.
BBC News - Birmingham airport reopens after private jet crash
BBC News - Footage of plane being removed from the runway at Birmingham Airport
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Airport staff checked for explosive underpants....
There is a trial going on at the staff gate in terminal 1. ICTS have been given an extra camera which appears to be pointed at the groin area of staff walking through the arch. The explanatory leaflet on display states that the camera is being used to check for explosives.
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Runway Extension
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Taxpayers to fund road scheme to help Birmingham Airport runway extension - West Midlands News - News - Birmingham Post
December the 13th is a Big Day then..!!
Taxpayers to fund road scheme to help Birmingham Airport runway extension
Nov 25 2010 Birmingham Post
Taxpayers will be asked to stump up another £10 million towards the cost of moving a major road to allow Birmingham Airport’s runway to be extended.
The long-awaited project can only go ahead once the A45 Coventry Road has been diverted at a cost of £32 million.
Regional transport body Centro’s , Geoff Inskip, told authority members that they would be asked to make a decision next month whether to contribute £10 million towards the scheme.
Birmingham City Council is already paying £15 million and the airport a further £7 million on top of the £65 million it will cost to extend the runway itself.
The seven West Midlands councils which make up Centro own 49 per cent of the airport’s shares.
Mr Inskip told a meeting of the Integrated Transport Authority that the runway would bring financial benefits for the whole region.
“There’s a gap of about £10 million,” he told members this week. “The Integrated Transport Authority will consider a report to fill that gap at its next meeting on December 13.
“The runway extension would provide a cross-conurbation benefit and that’s why Centro has been asked to donate.
“The business case is very good but it’s not in front of you right now.”
The runway extension will allow larger long-haul jets to lands pave the way for air links to India, China and America.
It could be operational by as soon as 2014.
A spokesman for Centro said that building a new road would allow the space for a proposed tram system serving the airport to be included.
“While the runway extension itself needs to be paid for by the airport the diversion of the A45 is part of the enabling works for the project,” said the spokesman.
“It also brings transport benefits in form of built-in road space for a future rapid transit system.
“Until the rapid transit system is in place this dedicated carriageway will be available for buses, helping to speed up journey times and reliability for passengers and improving people’s links to new job opportunities in the area.
“Adding this extra rapid transit pathway at a future date and after the road has been re-routed would cost considerably more so integrating it into the diversion scheme represents far better value for money.
“Because of the transport benefits of re-routing the A45 we will asking the Integrated Transport Authority on December 13 to approve a contribution from Centro towards the cost of the road’s diversion.”
Adie
Taxpayers to fund road scheme to help Birmingham Airport runway extension - West Midlands News - News - Birmingham Post
December the 13th is a Big Day then..!!
Taxpayers to fund road scheme to help Birmingham Airport runway extension
Nov 25 2010 Birmingham Post
Taxpayers will be asked to stump up another £10 million towards the cost of moving a major road to allow Birmingham Airport’s runway to be extended.
The long-awaited project can only go ahead once the A45 Coventry Road has been diverted at a cost of £32 million.
Regional transport body Centro’s , Geoff Inskip, told authority members that they would be asked to make a decision next month whether to contribute £10 million towards the scheme.
Birmingham City Council is already paying £15 million and the airport a further £7 million on top of the £65 million it will cost to extend the runway itself.
The seven West Midlands councils which make up Centro own 49 per cent of the airport’s shares.
Mr Inskip told a meeting of the Integrated Transport Authority that the runway would bring financial benefits for the whole region.
“There’s a gap of about £10 million,” he told members this week. “The Integrated Transport Authority will consider a report to fill that gap at its next meeting on December 13.
“The runway extension would provide a cross-conurbation benefit and that’s why Centro has been asked to donate.
“The business case is very good but it’s not in front of you right now.”
The runway extension will allow larger long-haul jets to lands pave the way for air links to India, China and America.
It could be operational by as soon as 2014.
A spokesman for Centro said that building a new road would allow the space for a proposed tram system serving the airport to be included.
“While the runway extension itself needs to be paid for by the airport the diversion of the A45 is part of the enabling works for the project,” said the spokesman.
“It also brings transport benefits in form of built-in road space for a future rapid transit system.
“Until the rapid transit system is in place this dedicated carriageway will be available for buses, helping to speed up journey times and reliability for passengers and improving people’s links to new job opportunities in the area.
“Adding this extra rapid transit pathway at a future date and after the road has been re-routed would cost considerably more so integrating it into the diversion scheme represents far better value for money.
“Because of the transport benefits of re-routing the A45 we will asking the Integrated Transport Authority on December 13 to approve a contribution from Centro towards the cost of the road’s diversion.”
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BMIBaby Belfast
I don't think its been posted here yet but from the 10th January 2011 BMIBaby will move its BHX Belfast Operation from Belfast International to Belfast City Airport (and all other UK-Belfast flights)
I wonder how long they will last with their unreliable, twice (often once) daily service when the come up against Flybe's 5 daily round trips?
Daza
I wonder how long they will last with their unreliable, twice (often once) daily service when the come up against Flybe's 5 daily round trips?
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Are things grim or what
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In all fairness Edinburgh is the capital city of Scotland, and Glasgow has suffered because of that. For all the gloom and doom, BHX maintains in this difficult economic situation, a very credible service to all the main european hub destinations and major business centres - it also maintains a thriving 2 x daily service to Dubai, and nealry daily connection to New York.
Many airports will bite your arm off for such services - look at EMA for example.
The economy is tough, the pound is weak, and to be honest, to retain what BHX has is no mean feat.
In all fairness Edinburgh is the capital city of Scotland, and Glasgow has suffered because of that. For all the gloom and doom, BHX maintains in this difficult economic situation, a very credible service to all the main european hub destinations and major business centres - it also maintains a thriving 2 x daily service to Dubai, and nealry daily connection to New York.
Many airports will bite your arm off for such services - look at EMA for example.
The economy is tough, the pound is weak, and to be honest, to retain what BHX has is no mean feat.
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Unless someone can correct me the last major new service other than the based operators switching units on routes was the Turkish 2 years ago.
As mentioned other airports are anouncing new destinations/routes BHX are not and there seems to be no prospect of any for 2011.
Passengers numbers have been on on average decline for 5/6 years.
Each to their own but the underlining trend for some time in my opinion has not been good.
I suppose they did make a profit last year.
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As mentioned other airports are anouncing new destinations/routes BHX are not and there seems to be no prospect of any for 2011.
Passengers numbers have been on on average decline for 5/6 years.
Each to their own but the underlining trend for some time in my opinion has not been good.
I suppose they did make a profit last year.
Centre cities
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Made a profit - yes
Meeting the real travel needs of the West Midlands region - no, well not as well as they could be
Yes there is a double daily DXB and a daily EWR. Thers's no knocking that. But these have been in place for years - as pointed out there has been no new route announcements or airlines at BHX for nigh on 2 years. And they wonder why 40% of its catchment use other airports? For my last four journeys I have had to use BRS or EMA as there were no flights available to the destinations (all within Europe) I was going to from BHX (apart from eye wateringly expensive connecting flights via a European hub).
Talking of which, yes BHX does have a credible range of flights to major European hubs - ideal for long haul travellers. But where are the direct connections to major European cities like BER, BUD, ROM, MAD and so on? Can routes to European cities only survive from BHX if they rely on transfer traffic to put bums on seats?
As for EDI yes it has quite a few things going in its favour but as far as i'm aware its always been Scotlands capital and a big tourist destination so why the steal on BHX in recent years - because they have attracted new routes and airlines something that BHX simply isn't doing.
If I was a teacher my report card for BHX would include that tried and tested old phrase 'could be doing better'
Meeting the real travel needs of the West Midlands region - no, well not as well as they could be
Yes there is a double daily DXB and a daily EWR. Thers's no knocking that. But these have been in place for years - as pointed out there has been no new route announcements or airlines at BHX for nigh on 2 years. And they wonder why 40% of its catchment use other airports? For my last four journeys I have had to use BRS or EMA as there were no flights available to the destinations (all within Europe) I was going to from BHX (apart from eye wateringly expensive connecting flights via a European hub).
Talking of which, yes BHX does have a credible range of flights to major European hubs - ideal for long haul travellers. But where are the direct connections to major European cities like BER, BUD, ROM, MAD and so on? Can routes to European cities only survive from BHX if they rely on transfer traffic to put bums on seats?
As for EDI yes it has quite a few things going in its favour but as far as i'm aware its always been Scotlands capital and a big tourist destination so why the steal on BHX in recent years - because they have attracted new routes and airlines something that BHX simply isn't doing.
If I was a teacher my report card for BHX would include that tried and tested old phrase 'could be doing better'
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Again not a new route but I suppose better than nothing as long as
Monarch don't withdraw.
Quite a few diversions today, which on whole seemed to go fairly well.
There was a mention of a lack of coaches which has been an age old
problem at BHX. Hopefully it will make up for the lost BHX-EDI and
BHX-FRA pax over the last few days.
The two BA 777's are still in I believe and of the two Thomson 763's
one is still in.
SAS from Manchester and easyjet Liverpool are the most recent
diverts in.
Pete
Monarch don't withdraw.
Quite a few diversions today, which on whole seemed to go fairly well.
There was a mention of a lack of coaches which has been an age old
problem at BHX. Hopefully it will make up for the lost BHX-EDI and
BHX-FRA pax over the last few days.
The two BA 777's are still in I believe and of the two Thomson 763's
one is still in.
SAS from Manchester and easyjet Liverpool are the most recent
diverts in.
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As mentioned other airports are anouncing new destinations/routes BHX are not and there seems to be no prospect of any for 2011.
Passengers numbers have been on on average decline for 5/6 years.
Each to their own but the underlining trend for some time in my opinion has not been good
I know im quite late to this discussion, but may I put my 2 cents in.
I think the problem BHX has, other than being too close to LHR/MAN, is that:
a) It has relied too much on empty promisies
b) fell in with the wrong crowd.
What do I mean by that? well:
point a)
BHX brought FR in withe the promise that x number of aircraft would be based here, and that xxx amount of passengers would be brought to the airport. This obviously hasnt materialised the way BHX would have liked, but not only that, its starting to push the other carriers out.
Whilst I know it cant be proven, KM have just pulled out, and FR have a direct route to MLA, whilst KM is reducing frequencies across the board, its only BHX that has suffered a total pull out. The same could be said for WW, and maybe EZY not adding more routes at BHX (I wonder if EZY saw BHX as an option after their EMA pull out?)
Also, when AI pulled out, they promised they would be back. Its been a fair while now, and still no sign. BHX's main India catchment is ATQ, and with all AI longhauls using DEL now, the return of AI looks ever less likely.
point b)
BHX went after the wrong carriers in my opinion. Whilst I know sometimes gambles can pay off, and Im no CEO, but having airlines like Flyblue/whoosh (whatever they were called), air Syhlet and Hellenic Imperial were dodgy prospects to begin with.
Instead, maybe they should have tried harder to get maybe Jet2, or easyjet? Both carriers have thrived at MAN, and have increased year on year (easyjet up to 6 aircraft and jet2 up to 9 IIRC). Where is BHX? 4 based RYR units?
Just my own opinion, and whoever they want can blast me for this, but maybe its time for BHX to stop spending money on pointless re-names, pointless rebranding and actually spend the money on getting airlines in?
Never in history have I heard an airline say ''oh, I like that airports new logo, lets go there!''. Offer reduced fees, or maybe help with advertising the said route, and that will work much better!
Passengers numbers have been on on average decline for 5/6 years.
Each to their own but the underlining trend for some time in my opinion has not been good
I know im quite late to this discussion, but may I put my 2 cents in.
I think the problem BHX has, other than being too close to LHR/MAN, is that:
a) It has relied too much on empty promisies
b) fell in with the wrong crowd.
What do I mean by that? well:
point a)
BHX brought FR in withe the promise that x number of aircraft would be based here, and that xxx amount of passengers would be brought to the airport. This obviously hasnt materialised the way BHX would have liked, but not only that, its starting to push the other carriers out.
Whilst I know it cant be proven, KM have just pulled out, and FR have a direct route to MLA, whilst KM is reducing frequencies across the board, its only BHX that has suffered a total pull out. The same could be said for WW, and maybe EZY not adding more routes at BHX (I wonder if EZY saw BHX as an option after their EMA pull out?)
Also, when AI pulled out, they promised they would be back. Its been a fair while now, and still no sign. BHX's main India catchment is ATQ, and with all AI longhauls using DEL now, the return of AI looks ever less likely.
point b)
BHX went after the wrong carriers in my opinion. Whilst I know sometimes gambles can pay off, and Im no CEO, but having airlines like Flyblue/whoosh (whatever they were called), air Syhlet and Hellenic Imperial were dodgy prospects to begin with.
Instead, maybe they should have tried harder to get maybe Jet2, or easyjet? Both carriers have thrived at MAN, and have increased year on year (easyjet up to 6 aircraft and jet2 up to 9 IIRC). Where is BHX? 4 based RYR units?
Just my own opinion, and whoever they want can blast me for this, but maybe its time for BHX to stop spending money on pointless re-names, pointless rebranding and actually spend the money on getting airlines in?
Never in history have I heard an airline say ''oh, I like that airports new logo, lets go there!''. Offer reduced fees, or maybe help with advertising the said route, and that will work much better!
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Etihad already are in brum according to the arrivals/depatures on the bhx website, that’s the code share with brussels airlines. Why would that change ? As for Qatar AW , maybe it will start it time for the world cup there! Neither will take on EK at a regional airport , Manchester being the exception due to the density of population and poor surface transport infrastruture on this island. A sign of nothing else happening is to bring this up this again…… Oh wait , maybe it's an oddball airline with no hope of lasting more than a week on a route or another (toilet) paper airline , that's more like it.. 
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Turkish Airlines will be scheduling flights to Dhaka starting from 26th December. Looks like Emirates will have some competition to serve the biggest Bangladeshi population outside London.
According to the Express India article, Air India's flights from Birmingham will resume.
Amritsar-Toronto flight to resume soon - Express India
The Emirates management was interviewed this morning on Radio WM, they confirmed that Birmingham airport will have regular A380 flight once BHX have permission from CAA. The Airport company has been in discussions with the CAA seeking permission for the Airport to handle scheduled A380 operations.
According to the Express India article, Air India's flights from Birmingham will resume.
Amritsar-Toronto flight to resume soon - Express India
The Emirates management was interviewed this morning on Radio WM, they confirmed that Birmingham airport will have regular A380 flight once BHX have permission from CAA. The Airport company has been in discussions with the CAA seeking permission for the Airport to handle scheduled A380 operations.
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Is this a UK rumour or from the Middle East? QR and BHX have been
mentioned from the ME along with EDI as the next UK destinations.
However that is not really saying too much and there was no time
scale given.
EY would be a total surprise.
getonittt
Emirates don't offer Dubai - Amritsar whereas QR operate I believe
daily from Doha and this would give a springboard to any potential
BHX service, although I understand that alone would not automatically
bring success to the route.
I must admit the amount of potential routes QR are linked with, 2022
sounds about right
Pete
Is this a UK rumour or from the Middle East? QR and BHX have been
mentioned from the ME along with EDI as the next UK destinations.
However that is not really saying too much and there was no time
scale given.
EY would be a total surprise.
getonittt
Emirates don't offer Dubai - Amritsar whereas QR operate I believe
daily from Doha and this would give a springboard to any potential
BHX service, although I understand that alone would not automatically
bring success to the route.
I must admit the amount of potential routes QR are linked with, 2022
sounds about right
Pete
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If another Middle east carrier is comming to BHX, my bets are on Qatar Airways.
They have a route to ATQ which will help the figures, and although its been a fair while since they introduced a UK route, they have always seemed to be the fore-runner in most rumours of new routes.
Etihad, in my opinion, seem too entrenched at LHR/MAN, and dont really seem to want to expand further than that. They even cut LGW once more slots became free at LHR, wheras Qatar stayed at LGW.
We must remember though, a new Middle eastern carrier will be good for BHX, but at what other carriers expense? Mahan air came back to BHX as there was too much competition at MAN, and I wonder if Turkmenistan could hold up the fight? And could Armavia compete with just 2 weekly flights?
Im sure if Qatar/Etihad came to fruitition, we would find out.
Then again, who says its them two? It could be saudi, Kuwait, Oman, EL AL, Syrian, Royal Jordanian, or, anyone really!
They have a route to ATQ which will help the figures, and although its been a fair while since they introduced a UK route, they have always seemed to be the fore-runner in most rumours of new routes.
Etihad, in my opinion, seem too entrenched at LHR/MAN, and dont really seem to want to expand further than that. They even cut LGW once more slots became free at LHR, wheras Qatar stayed at LGW.
We must remember though, a new Middle eastern carrier will be good for BHX, but at what other carriers expense? Mahan air came back to BHX as there was too much competition at MAN, and I wonder if Turkmenistan could hold up the fight? And could Armavia compete with just 2 weekly flights?
Im sure if Qatar/Etihad came to fruitition, we would find out.
Then again, who says its them two? It could be saudi, Kuwait, Oman, EL AL, Syrian, Royal Jordanian, or, anyone really!
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Qatar or Etihad ?
I wonder what % of Pax to DXB from BHX actually stay there or just transit through.
Dubai is a major stand alone tourist destination but Doha and Abu Dhabi are certainly not seen as major holiday hotspots.
Can another ME airline justify flights from BHX with virtually all Pax just using their airport as a hub.
Dubai is a major stand alone tourist destination but Doha and Abu Dhabi are certainly not seen as major holiday hotspots.
Can another ME airline justify flights from BHX with virtually all Pax just using their airport as a hub.