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Apologies but western europe is probably a more apt description. Now it was last July that I heard this so perhaps they've changed their mind.
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This means that theres no room to launch any new routes without either axing a current route, or operating it using an aircraft from a different base on a W pattern.
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New Cork Route
Enr2 update is correct. I missed the extra Birmingham and Manchester flights that were added in recently . I was told by a very senior source last Summer that Berlin was being dropped and that EI had secured slots for Cork Frankfurt.
In 2008 this route was also signalled but local travel agents were sceptical about the idea and EI opted for Lisbon instead.
So for 2010 frequencies to Rome and Lisbon are being reduced while Rennes and Berlin will be gone. Only gain is an increase in flights to Birmingham and Manchester. How exciting!
In 2008 this route was also signalled but local travel agents were sceptical about the idea and EI opted for Lisbon instead.
So for 2010 frequencies to Rome and Lisbon are being reduced while Rennes and Berlin will be gone. Only gain is an increase in flights to Birmingham and Manchester. How exciting!
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Try as they might but Czech Airlines just cannot stay away from Cork. A welcome return of the OK Jets even if it is has to be just in the IT market.
The Czech A319s could still work from Prague at a two a week frequency?
The Czech A319s could still work from Prague at a two a week frequency?
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I think 2-3 weekly PRG-ORK probably could work on the O&D alone. I remember that when OK used to overnight they had a number of interesting connections to all sorts of exotic Eastern locales. That said, chances are probably slim, I dont think CSA even serve Dublin anymore - or at least only seasonally?
Extra MAN and BHX rotations may not be "exciting" but they should help the airport keep passenger numbers relatively stable. Also, these type of sort trips probably generate more parking revenue. Parking the car for a 1/2/3 days at the airport is not too bad and not much would be saved in Taxi fares/hassle. The extra BHX and MANs are exactly what the airport needs right now.
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Extra MAN and BHX rotations may not be "exciting" but they should help the airport keep passenger numbers relatively stable. Also, these type of sort trips probably generate more parking revenue. Parking the car for a 1/2/3 days at the airport is not too bad and not much would be saved in Taxi fares/hassle. The extra BHX and MANs are exactly what the airport needs right now.
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I find it strange that the Berlin route is being dropped by EI. Since FR discontinued the route from Shannon there must have been a good market. This route was also at option for travel to Poland.
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I find it strange that the Berlin route is being dropped by EI.
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BHX/MAN
You should be delighted to be having more to BHX and MAN!
It may also be worth keeping an eye on what the rapidly contracting WW do with ORK-MAN, although it would seem that ORK-EMA is safe. These short sector low cost flights may well be the ones which can generate the most revenue......remains to be seen.
You should be delighted to be having more to BHX and MAN!
It may also be worth keeping an eye on what the rapidly contracting WW do with ORK-MAN, although it would seem that ORK-EMA is safe. These short sector low cost flights may well be the ones which can generate the most revenue......remains to be seen.
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It would be a great save by the CAA to hang on to Berlin as a weekend destination next summer coupled with it being a capital destination served from Cork. If Air Berlin could be successfully courted on this one it would nearly justify the CAA's existence at a stroke. Shame to have the likelihood of another European capital going from the Cork portfolio following on from Prague and Budapest. Such a prodigious route to be on the verge of going after nearly four years.
I could screaaaaaaaam!
Nothing wrong with more flights to Birmingham and Manchester, of course. After all, She Who Must Be Obeyed and I met in Birmingham!
I could screaaaaaaaam!
Nothing wrong with more flights to Birmingham and Manchester, of course. After all, She Who Must Be Obeyed and I met in Birmingham!
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I am probably a bit biased, as I use ORK-MAN/LPL(and LBA when it was around) reasonably regularly. But as far as I am concerned any Irish airport worth its salt needs frequent and reliable UK connections. ORK is now getting those. With the strengthening Euro and sluggish UK retail market there are plenty of bargains to be had in the UK - particularly up north and of course many commerce and business links too.
I would put it to the board that 6 ORK-UK rotations will do a lot more for the local economy than 3 rotations to Berlin.
Brian.
I would put it to the board that 6 ORK-UK rotations will do a lot more for the local economy than 3 rotations to Berlin.
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To be honest, double daily to Manchester and Birmingham is something that's been needed for a while. It greatly enhances the opportunities for businesses in the Cork area.
It's just a huge pity that it's been achieved by chopping other routes.
It's just a huge pity that it's been achieved by chopping other routes.
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I agree with you 840.
I think a 5th EI unit in ORK would do just fine, it would allow double daily on BHX and MAN every day - should that be necessary. What other routes could be launched which would be successful right now though, Im not sure. Perhaps LGW - although this might hurt LHR traffic, other options would be PRG, CPH/HEL, FRA and possibly somewhere like Malta, Cyprus in Summer.
I think a 5th EI unit in ORK would do just fine, it would allow double daily on BHX and MAN every day - should that be necessary. What other routes could be launched which would be successful right now though, Im not sure. Perhaps LGW - although this might hurt LHR traffic, other options would be PRG, CPH/HEL, FRA and possibly somewhere like Malta, Cyprus in Summer.
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It would be interesting to see how Ryanair would react to a Gatwick service.
An earlier departure to London would be nice though. Something around 6:30, so that it's possible to be in central London for 9am.
An earlier departure to London would be nice though. Something around 6:30, so that it's possible to be in central London for 9am.
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(I'm not saying there isn't, I'm just asking. I don't know the Cork-London market well.)
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Well, one thing that can be done straight away is for Ryanair to restore the third daily flight from Stansted now that they are to walk away from Basel on 2nd December! That sure would help to increase the passenger numbers on Cork London!