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Old 24th Feb 2009, 22:34
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Cork ro Belfast

Jet2 announced Belfast to Cork years ago before Aer Arann started on it, but cancelled the route before the first flight.
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 23:50
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Aer Arann were all ready operating Cork - Belfast BHD before Jet2 announced their own but never to start service from BFS to Cork. I would really love to know what happened to that non-starter or was it just plain ol' cold feet by LS?

Interesting news item Tuesday evening was the announcement of the resignation by Mr Gary McGann of the chairmanship of the Dublin Airport Authority. Mr McGann was previously a non-executive director of Anglo Irish Bank. This bank has in recent weeks been baled out by the Irish taxpayer in the form of being wholly nationalised by the State. I will let the more economically astute among you tell the story of Anglo Irish Bank - it is just a little beyond my scope - all I know is that ultimately the taxpayer is taking up the tab.

As for Mr McGann's resignation - all I can say is was he much of a fan of Cork Airport?
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Old 25th Feb 2009, 12:53
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Jet2 announced Belfast to Cork years ago before Aer Arann started on it, but cancelled the route before the first flight.
As TTT said, Aer Arann were already on the route, and as soon as Jet 2 announced the route, Aer Arann reduced prices. The once daily Jet2 service was useless for business passengers who stayed with Aer Arann. There wasn't enough leisure traffic so support a daily 737 service and consequently the route was dropped before it had started.

However if Aer Arann collapsed, it would be different. Aer Lingus or whoever would have the route to themselves, and consequently the route would have more chance of being successful on an A320/737.
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Old 25th Feb 2009, 13:43
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EI and ERJ

In next round of orders, EI should consider purchasing either A319s or ERJ 190s like their partner airline Jet Blue. ERJ195 has a seat capacity of 122 as against 174.

From a ORK perspective, the ERJs would make ex Aer Arann routes viable and have potential of offering better timings - double daily on EDI with an A320 would not survive. More importantly, the ERJ would have the range (currently absent with the ATRs) necessary to open up continental destinations together with offering appropriate seat capacity from a regional market like ORK.

Jetblue's bottom line seems uneffected by operating a mixed fleet.
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 13:01
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Guys, what's with the premature talk of other operators taking up Aer Arann routes? RE are still around and there's no immediate sign of them going anywhere. Granted things were tough for them late last year, but they have restructured and unlike alot of other airlines abroad are still in business. At least give them the benefit of time and the summer before speculating on the future. EICK users should be hoping they stay in business, realistically in the current climate, the likelihood of other operators taking up the slack is very small indeed.
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 13:52
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Well said, could not agree more. If anything, I should like to think that Aer Arann may again in time increase their operations from Cork. One daily Luton, a daily Southampton and a three or four weekly EMA, Brussels, Rotterdam or Cologne, and a five weekly midday Derry would easily work with ATR72s.

I think they should go for it and get the route incentives in before you know who! There are always opportunites.
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 15:17
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I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate on the future, both positive and negative.

My feeling is that Bristol (WO), Edinburgh (BE) and Belfast (BE) would find replacement carriers without massive difficulties. The others may struggle.

CGN is beyond the range of an ATR 72 from Cork and BRU and RTM would be leaving yourself landing on close to empty tanks.

I think there is scope for more capacity to the English Midlands and also to the South Coast of England, whether Bournemouth or Southampton, especially with Ryanair no longer on Shannon-Bournemouth
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 16:33
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Ork Ltn

I'd day ORK LTN would be diffiucult. There is a local market but Ryanair's Free seat sales and low fares on ORK STN would make it a probable loss leader.

Ryanair might try it but it won't qualify for incentives as CAA class it as a London Airport and not a new route as such.
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Old 4th Mar 2009, 10:41
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I heard that FR are supposed to be announcing a new route from Cork to Beziers in France. I'm cynical about it myself to be honest, it's only 70km from Carcassonne. Unless they alternate between Carcasonne and Beziers. They may be trying to put manners on the unions at Carcassonne who closed the airport last summer in an unofficial strike.

Seems far fetched to me, at this late stage in the season.
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Old 4th Mar 2009, 14:38
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Snow

I see there were a number of delayed departures this morning. What facilities/equipment do the CAA have for dealing with snow?
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Old 4th Mar 2009, 15:56
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2 guys and 1 shovel
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Old 6th Mar 2009, 12:41
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and a hairdrier with an extra long power cord
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Old 6th Mar 2009, 13:08
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Cat II

At least cat II ops are back up and running

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Old 8th Mar 2009, 20:30
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From Ryanair website - News - March 8th

Ryanair called on the Government to scrap its flat rate €10 travel tax, which is due to be introduced on 1st April next. This tax will further devastate traffic and tourism at the Irish airports, and will result in major cuts to Ryanair’s flights, schedules and traffic at Cork and Shannon airports.
I suppose this would translate itself in a reduction of ORK - DUB?
Gatwick - Far too profitable to reduce
Stansted - Can't imagine Ryanair handing Cork - London on a plate to Aer Lingus
Carcassonne - Very profitable
Liverpool - Maybe they'd go down to 4 flights per week...
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Old 8th Mar 2009, 21:26
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I think it's fair to say that FR have won the battle to DUB, they might want to reduce capacity on the route, possibly operating some of the STN or LPL flights in their place, or else closing the ORK base in its entirety. Always hard to say with FR, one thing you can be sure of with them is unpredictability!

Incidentally I was on the 728 to MAN today, we were delayed for about 15 minutes due to de-icing! Certainly not something I have experienced at ORK before!

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Old 9th Mar 2009, 14:12
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where did you get this info about FR opening a route to bezier from ORK?
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Old 13th Mar 2009, 16:43
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I flew into Cork last night and without any great delay getting off the plane or through immigration, I arrived at the baggage belt to find my bag was already there.

Is this some kind of record?
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Old 13th Mar 2009, 20:52
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At what point did you wake up ?
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Old 13th Mar 2009, 21:15
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where did you get this info about FR opening a route to bezier from ORK?
Flying into and out of Bezier at Easter and FR have couple of flights a week from Luton and Bristol and both early morning flights on same days. Good strategy to minimise cost. No idea what to expect.
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 23:31
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Aer Lingus ORK-LHR

A little bit of good news for a change. When Cork to Heathrow goes back up to 5 daily for the Summer season, the 5th daily flight will be operates using an A321. Last Summer, 4 of the 5 daily flights were operated using an A321 while the 5th was operated using an A320. However this year all 5 daily flights will be operated using A321 aircraft. This means that the Cork-Heathrow route is now operated exclusively by the A321 all year round.
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