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according to their press release it should be an interesting battle ( assuming of course they still have aircraft to fly)
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FL26... Get out to where??? I think you maybe assuming just a little to much.
The cards are being held very close to the chest for those that own EuroManx, (to tightly if you ask me, but that's my own opinion.)
But whatever happened to the old saying of no news is good news.
Some of the "upstairs" people I was talking to only yesterday, seemed upbeat about the future of the company. its lasted this long, there is no reason why it cannot last.
Flybe had some billboard around the airport today, if you ask me they must be getting desperate for pax, because, if they had filled all the seats that have been for sale at such a low price, they wouldn't need to waste more money on advertising to 75/80,000, that know full well who the airlines are that operate from Ronaldsway, and where they go to.
I think flybe might be worried that this little stunt of there's isn't going to work as they planned.
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Flybe deploy billboards and Mobile billboards as part of their marketing every time they make a frequency change across the UK. Flybe are moving in for the kill not panicing.
Flybe have 60% market shares on MAN. This announcement will take it to 75%. They will take over 60% on Liverpool within 3 months of operational commencement.
Flybe have 60% market shares on MAN. This announcement will take it to 75%. They will take over 60% on Liverpool within 3 months of operational commencement.
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I am amazed at this post mainly because I talk to the staff at EMX house and this is not what they believe. The top floor are not talking to their own staff, who dont know whether they have a job tomorrow or not. I think that Euromanx do have a place in the market but not with the current management - JS is/will bring this airline to its knees and I know the staff have no confidence in him, or the other so called executives at all.
I dont want to see Euromanx go under and I think that people need to get behind both Euromanx and Manx2 as the likes of Flybe can pull out of the island at any time and then what happens. I remember everyone critising Manx Airlines but now to hear people they were the best airline in the world! Lets give the staff at EMX support because they deserve/need it - would you want to work for JS???????????????
I dont want to see Euromanx go under and I think that people need to get behind both Euromanx and Manx2 as the likes of Flybe can pull out of the island at any time and then what happens. I remember everyone critising Manx Airlines but now to hear people they were the best airline in the world! Lets give the staff at EMX support because they deserve/need it - would you want to work for JS???????????????
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Well, everyone get together for a vote of no confidence and go direct to the new owners of EMX. Listening to JS and his barmy army has probably sucked them in too.
I too have heard no one is happy. Very few members of staff respect JS and the top floor and everyone wants him out.
I too have heard no one is happy. Very few members of staff respect JS and the top floor and everyone wants him out.
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Flybe to take 75%
What a load of rubbish you are clearly not in touch with reality !!
Flybe have 60% of a market what is their Load factors !! and the yield is what ? no you never hear the Flybe bosses shouting how great the yield is because they know its crap everyone does.
There is only one aim to sink EuroManx and thats it so they can charge what they like in the future !!! it is not the fault of either EuroManx or Flybe that this situation has occured it is that of the Open Skys Policy operated by an inadequate Transport Department on the Isle of Man.
My only fear is, have flybe overstrectched the lines of flying on these IOM based aircraft and when one goes wrong they all do.
Good luck to John Seymour Dave Surge, Melanie and Dona I wish you all the best in this battle with Flybe just so long as the Owners dont pull the plug on you valiant efforts
Flybe have 60% of a market what is their Load factors !! and the yield is what ? no you never hear the Flybe bosses shouting how great the yield is because they know its crap everyone does.
There is only one aim to sink EuroManx and thats it so they can charge what they like in the future !!! it is not the fault of either EuroManx or Flybe that this situation has occured it is that of the Open Skys Policy operated by an inadequate Transport Department on the Isle of Man.
My only fear is, have flybe overstrectched the lines of flying on these IOM based aircraft and when one goes wrong they all do.
Good luck to John Seymour Dave Surge, Melanie and Dona I wish you all the best in this battle with Flybe just so long as the Owners dont pull the plug on you valiant efforts
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While the battle for pax at sub-economic prices rages on the loser initially will the Steam Packet as people take advantage of these low fares. But its winter; traditionally pax numbers fall and one assumes both airlines and the ferry people have losses budgeted for the quarter. The real fun will start at Easter when yields (and fares) are budgeted to rise. Let's hope all three players - IOMSPCo/FlyBe/EuroManx - are still in the game or we'll all lose the benefits of healthy competition.
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Haven't a clue I wouln not totally agree with that the ferry will still be there no matter what for vehicle traffic. The best case scenario will be that both BE and 3W win back pax lost to the ferry in 2007 on LPL route. It will certainly be interesting when the route has a capacity of 352 seats each way every day. Thats double the existing capacity almost. Will be interesting if the route can support this kind of capacity. I would seriously doubt it for winter but it could be possible in the summer.
The additional MAN and LPL flights form April 7th seem further good news... we can only wait and see
The additional MAN and LPL flights form April 7th seem further good news... we can only wait and see
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FlyBe to Geneva
Watched the second of the weekly flights to Geneva depart full this morning, and there is an additional flight going there this afternoon. Well done to FlyBe and the local travel agents who are clearly making a success of a bold initiative.
While I was there, the weekly E-195 rotation from LGW turned up. These are sweet looking machines, and getting one of these on the route regularly is hopefully one of Anne Reynold's priorities.
While I was there, the weekly E-195 rotation from LGW turned up. These are sweet looking machines, and getting one of these on the route regularly is hopefully one of Anne Reynold's priorities.
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we all want to suport our local operators but wheres Eurosmanx STRATEGY? Sluuging it out wit Flybe in a price / capacity war with old aircraft and a fraction of theadvertising budget is stupid. Bound to get beat.
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Old aircraft??
The planes are 7-8 years old...
How is that old?
Your talking like they are 748's or something.
Austro.. I am with you, If I ever find out who you are, i'll buy you a beer...
The planes are 7-8 years old...
How is that old?
Your talking like they are 748's or something.
Austro.. I am with you, If I ever find out who you are, i'll buy you a beer...
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You are quite right, they are not old and have been kept in good order internally, much better than the BACON equipment ever was.
But are they going to be on the island with EMX for much longer ?.
But are they going to be on the island with EMX for much longer ?.
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Staying Airside whilst in the UK
The UK are changing the tax rules from 5th April 2008.
More than 90 days in the UK, now including day of arrival and departure, will make Manx travellers resident in the UK for tax purposes.
New rules suggest that if you stay airside during transit in the UK it will not count as a day. However going to a public place such as the landside check-in desk will count as a day's UK residence for tax purposes.
Raises some questions for frequent travellers. For example:
Is it possible to go to Gatwick (SOUTH) with flybe and then transfer to the NORTH terminal without going landside?
I presume IOM to LHR would require a routing via MAN and then using the transfer desk to check-in?
Does anyone know if you have to go landside with VLM at LCY if you are through ticketed to europe?
More than 90 days in the UK, now including day of arrival and departure, will make Manx travellers resident in the UK for tax purposes.
New rules suggest that if you stay airside during transit in the UK it will not count as a day. However going to a public place such as the landside check-in desk will count as a day's UK residence for tax purposes.
Raises some questions for frequent travellers. For example:
Is it possible to go to Gatwick (SOUTH) with flybe and then transfer to the NORTH terminal without going landside?
I presume IOM to LHR would require a routing via MAN and then using the transfer desk to check-in?
Does anyone know if you have to go landside with VLM at LCY if you are through ticketed to europe?
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Erm...It was British European who flew to LCY; had a great route BHD-IOM-LCY-JER then return. The IOM-LCY route was passed on to EMX when the new FlyBe emerged.
Ironically if you look down the side of EMX's OE-HBC you can still see "British European" outlined where the original decals were removed!
Ironically if you look down the side of EMX's OE-HBC you can still see "British European" outlined where the original decals were removed!
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No - indeed it's not possible to stay airside in LGW S, and you can't anyway if you have hold baggage.
In my experience you need a boarding pass for your next flight to stay airside - can do this with BA online check-in, but again you're stuffed if you have baggage.
They used to do the transits on the tarmac - not sure what the current practice is.
I'm looking at routing through Dublin, but RE timings are hopeless. And I'm buying loads of lottery tickets in the hope of affording Netjets....
Is it possible to go to Gatwick (SOUTH) with flybe and then transfer to the NORTH terminal without going landside?
I presume IOM to LHR would require a routing via MAN and then using the transfer desk to check-in?
Does anyone know if you have to go landside with VLM at LCY if you are through ticketed to europe?
I'm looking at routing through Dublin, but RE timings are hopeless. And I'm buying loads of lottery tickets in the hope of affording Netjets....