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Old 16th Jan 2008, 17:38
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J41s can't go to LCY....
I stand corrected! But you won't get me or the missus or the kids on one out of LCY, sorry. Not that EMX would miss the 40 odd sectors we flew with them last year, I suppose.
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Why not, may I ask?

How many incidents have you heard of regarding J41's compared to lets say Dash's or RJ.s
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J41s a fine aircraft for its purpose but no way will Euromanx move to them. As they will be looking to wet lease the SAAB 340 is much cheaper and lots more readily available. Personally I cant see any sign of takers for the 2 old dashes anyway, unless they accept a bargain basement offer. Maybe they'll just slim it all down from 3 to 2 aircraft to reduce capacity on MAN,LPL and BHD and just lease another ATR from Arran for LCY. No way can the market support FlyBe and EuroManx planned capacity from March.
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Why not, may I ask?

How many incidents have you heard of regarding J41's compared to lets say Dash's or RJ.s
I've flown on J31 and J41s, most recently on Blue Islands service to/from JER. I'd probably do so again, but only if there was no alternative. It's nothing to do with incident history - I just don't like small cabin aircraft.

But Mrs Hac is not a happy passenger, and the cramped cabin makes her very uneasy. And if she says no, then the kids don't go. I can persuade her to use the baby Dash 8, because of the larger cabin cross section. Given a choice she'd prefer 4 engines as well. No wait. Make that six!
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 23:45
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Usually Blue Islands IOM-JER service is a D328. Much more space.
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Old 24th Jan 2008, 13:22
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Usually Blue Islands IOM-JER service is a D328. Much more space.


won't be for too much longer - being swapped out as it struggles with X wind limits in JER & GCI where theres only one runway. IOM is windier but the old xwind runways can keep things flying.
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Hmm.. Interesting... I understand that BCI have had a few problems regarding the low cross-wind limit on the D328. However the J41 does not have anywhere near the same passenger appeal as the D328, but the J41 would be more ideal not only with regards cross winds but also the fact that BCI already operate a fleet of J32's.

I would expect to see Blue Islands operating twice daily GCI/JER-IOM by the end of the year, they have seen a huge amount of growth on the route, and would be the next logical step in their business-person orientated business model.
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Old 24th Jan 2008, 15:55
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Talk on the JER thred of BCI doing JER-DUB-IOM. That would upset Aer Arran and with EuroManx Dash 8s Africa bound its never dull on that there rock is it?
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Question Flight Support Limited

Seen in IOM Courier Government Notices(21/01/2008)

The Companies Act 2006.
Flight Support Limited has applied to FSC for Dissolution under provisions of the 2006 Companies Act.

Whats that all about then.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 10:31
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Nothing major to be honest. As it is now under the 'Airbase umbrella', believe to be a slight amendment to the company name, to become 'Airbase Flight Support'.

More bases on the way, busy year ahead for all. All is well at Flight Support, the future is bright
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 17:10
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2008

EMX81L you said that in one, Dissolution of company name is little more than a cleaning up of names. Sounds like Airbase will become a lot more prominent within Flight Support. Things could not look better for the company with Loganair now coming under the Flybe brand. Busy times ahead!! Seems to be a lot of speculation over the handling of Loganair come the winter season. Loganair will become part of the Flybe product so there is no other reason why they would not be handled by Flight Support. Thats enough of that

Also will be interesting to see the outcome of Euromanx but I would not be fearing the worst. I have been told that several of the canx BHD flights are down to BB and BC being away on A checks so an Air southwest -300 will be filling in.
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Old 1st Feb 2008, 20:40
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Flybe- LPL & MAN

Flybe planning to take MAN to 5 a day and LPL to 4 a day. Announcement at end of feb.
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Old 2nd Feb 2008, 09:22
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'Flybe planning to take MAN to 5 a day and LPL to 4 a day. Announcement at end of feb.'

But you've announced it at the beginning of Feb so it has lost some of its impact when it is announced or is this a 'leak from a highly placed source' in Exeter? (with very few previous posts).
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Old 2nd Feb 2008, 09:57
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Maybe EMX has been bought by BE. Will probably be cheaper than running extremely cheap fares until EMX fall. All EMX facilites will then be available for further BE expansion off of the Island!

Or they could just run them into the ground - a Microsoft technique!
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Old 6th Feb 2008, 15:35
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seems the Flybe increases are actually happening in March. Short term pain for long term gain
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seems the Flybe increases are actually happening in March.
any specific info on schedules ?
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 09:32
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on the flybe website now............


Increased frequencies from the Isle of Man
07 February 2008
Flybe is today announcing the introduction of two additional services on its popular Isle of Man routes to both Manchester and Liverpool. The extra flights will raise the frequency to Manchester to five a day and Liverpool to four a day and is a response to unprecedented demand from Manx travellers.

Monday – Friday

Departs Isle of Man 14:05
Arrives Manchester 14:50

Departs Manchester 15:15
Arrives Isle of Man 16:00
Departs Isle of Man 10:45
Arrives Liverpool 11:20

Departs Liverpool 11:45
Arrives Isle of Man 12:20
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 09:45
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Thumbs down

still nothing to LPL with flybe after 1615.

rubbish
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 11:48
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misleading but whats new

Having just checked the flybe website its a shame the pr dept, schedulers and the CEO dont have the same story as the Manchester extra flight is only on Mons Thurs and Fridays. Confused just look at the timetables page for their liverpool and manchester flights.

Who ever is advising them on flight times needs questioning as previous post has stated. Good luck to flybe but with EuroManx at £19.00, better times and no bag charges its going to be a good fight.

Customers win
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 13:20
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Austro7, you are right, customers will ultimately decide however it all comes down to which airline has deeper pockets and we all know the answers to that one.

BE's marketing and PR department is extreamly clever, as Islanders all we get off EMX is the same drivvle month after month.

Once Flybe start Liverpool and step up the pressure on Manchester it will further squeeze AustroManx to whatever passengers are left. The last two flights I took with EuroManx to Manchester had less than 10 on board!

To everyone I know at Euro's get out while you can as Flybe will win this one ( or two )
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