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The first wave of EZY S14 schedules paints a pretty bleak picture for IOM. From the current c3200 seats to/from London each week, IOM will be down to c1700, between EZY and BA, with no departures before noon, except for Saturdays. Presumably BE will still go to LTN now and again, but the overall picture is pretty desperate for both business and leisure travellers.
I'm sure the ever confident and optimistic AD will be telling us soon, that they are still hopeful of a double daily, still negotiating, still talking to other airlines... blah, blah blah.... but with INV and JER having EZY deals in the bag already, there not much cause for optimism.
I'm sure the ever confident and optimistic AD will be telling us soon, that they are still hopeful of a double daily, still negotiating, still talking to other airlines... blah, blah blah.... but with INV and JER having EZY deals in the bag already, there not much cause for optimism.
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One wonders whether the AD has talked to BA at Gatwick?
LCY is a nice airport and well "suited" for business traffic, but clearly the required numbers are not enough to make it work for BACF. LCY is also expensive. As an example a BACF return flight taken to/from LCY in March attracted a Passenger Service Charge of £52. The charge for a BA return flight from LGW to Marrakech in January was £12. That is a significant saving and given the cost conscious nature of the Manx public would allow a more competitive fare offer.
As regards the future of the LCY route BACF said a while back that they would review their frequency based on forward bookings. I fear that they have actually already made their decision. The departure time of their LCY-IOM service at 7am Friday and Saturday at 8am may attract a few travellers. The return however is well timed for us locals, but both sectors need to be popular to make the math work.
LCY is a nice airport and well "suited" for business traffic, but clearly the required numbers are not enough to make it work for BACF. LCY is also expensive. As an example a BACF return flight taken to/from LCY in March attracted a Passenger Service Charge of £52. The charge for a BA return flight from LGW to Marrakech in January was £12. That is a significant saving and given the cost conscious nature of the Manx public would allow a more competitive fare offer.
As regards the future of the LCY route BACF said a while back that they would review their frequency based on forward bookings. I fear that they have actually already made their decision. The departure time of their LCY-IOM service at 7am Friday and Saturday at 8am may attract a few travellers. The return however is well timed for us locals, but both sectors need to be popular to make the math work.
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I think one needs to keep in mind that LCY and LGW play to two different markets, certainly as far as the Isle of Man is concerned. LGW does not work very well at all for travellers to and from IOM doing City business. The reason LCY commands a premium (no doubt required owing to the fact that the new owners have massive loans which need servicing) is that it suits City business travellers very well. I've not seen any figures, but it always seemed to me BACF flights were well-attended. I suspect, however, that the bigger population of Dusseldorf will allow for a bigger and more consistent yield, and therein lies the rub.
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So I guess with easyJet going on sale with a second daily (weekdays) LGW-IOM meaning that the early flight will be 0950 ex-LGW and 1135 ex-IOM, this extra volume in the market is likely to put paid to any other likely operation being introduced to the London market which might allow a "business" schedule with early departure off the Island..
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If the extra flight operates every day and there are local press reports that is only M.W.F in the summer, then easyJet's 2 times a day A319's offer 312 seats each way. FlyBe's 4 times a day Dash 8's coincidently also offered 312 seats a day. That means an overall reduction in London bound capacity of 156 seats to LGW plus some 80 seats to LCY. Whether that will tempt BACF to offer additional and better timed services has yet to be seen, however I would imagine they are now committed to S14.
If not then the London hotel industry will enjoy an unexpected boost from those of us forced to stay overnight.
If not then the London hotel industry will enjoy an unexpected boost from those of us forced to stay overnight.
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Indeed. I wonder whether those forced to stay overnight are aware of the new UK residence tests, and whether knowledge of the potential consequences, particularly if spending time working in the UK, might motivate them to part with more dosh and make yields worthwhile?
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I don't know why someone doesn't do more flights to Luton. It's a long established route that I think always used to do well? It amazes me that Flybe feel it can't sustain a year round operation & that in summer, a daily service is too much. Really????
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...that will be the lack of people who actually fly on the route then. Plus the timing of EZ's "morning"LGW virtually put's paid to any chance of the LTN even having a chance next year.
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it used to operate as a successful route year round!
Luton & Gatwick's markets aren't exactly the same so the fact that easyJet serve the route from Gatwick shouldn't necessarily render a Luton service inoperable.
Luton & Gatwick's markets aren't exactly the same so the fact that easyJet serve the route from Gatwick shouldn't necessarily render a Luton service inoperable.
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Charter flight delayed
Its pretty rich for the airport Director to blame the Captain of the recently delayed charter flight, when it was the lack of an adequate de fueling facility at the airport that was the major problem.
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5 hour delay
The problem was that having over fuelled the aircraft it took them 5 hours to sort out the problem when it was an easy choice. Either fly around empty for 90 minutes to burn fuel and then depart with everyone onboard and a 2 hour delay. Bump off 35 pax and fly direct to Madeira with a 1 hour delay. Or bump off all the bags and take a 1 hour delay with all the bags to follow 24 hours later. They did the worst of all decisions and departed -35 pax but took so long the captain would only fly to Portugal as he was out of hours.