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That's the thing with NI. A lot of its inhabitants are blessed with intransigence.
I have a suggestion for Tower Ranger. Get a hobby. An interest. Something to distract you. If the best you can do on a Wednesday night is read, then comment on, a thread you consider to be s**t, then really, I hope you've managed YOUR expectations.
Hopefully twenty years ago, you didn't dream and aspire to spend your evenings in the future like this. If you did, then well done for setting the bar so low!
Derry Airport's screwed, but at least it doesn't advertise itself as NI's international gateway. Though if it did, at least it's not a decrepit shed whose best feature is a multimillion pound elevator and a Burgerking!
I have a suggestion for Tower Ranger. Get a hobby. An interest. Something to distract you. If the best you can do on a Wednesday night is read, then comment on, a thread you consider to be s**t, then really, I hope you've managed YOUR expectations.
Hopefully twenty years ago, you didn't dream and aspire to spend your evenings in the future like this. If you did, then well done for setting the bar so low!
Derry Airport's screwed, but at least it doesn't advertise itself as NI's international gateway. Though if it did, at least it's not a decrepit shed whose best feature is a multimillion pound elevator and a Burgerking!
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"Multimillion pound elevator"
I like that one
Off topic and I know it should be on the BFS thread but I've always said that "core building" as they call it was a complete waste of money.
On the bright side the Lagan bar seems to do very well though and there is quite a buzz and good atmosphere there at busy times. 4 bottles of heineken for £10 isn't bad either for an airport bar.
I like that one
Off topic and I know it should be on the BFS thread but I've always said that "core building" as they call it was a complete waste of money.
On the bright side the Lagan bar seems to do very well though and there is quite a buzz and good atmosphere there at busy times. 4 bottles of heineken for £10 isn't bad either for an airport bar.
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Thanks for the reply CutHere and for your acceptance of the situation. I don't think for a moment that there should be only one Airport in NI but I do think that three is one too many.
As for hobbies? I've got a few too many but I doubt that you share any of them.
As for hobbies? I've got a few too many but I doubt that you share any of them.
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With regards to Derry this whole '3 airports for Ni.Ireland is too many there should only be 1' attitude really p*sses me off.
What you 'all roads lead to Belshaft' set seem to forget is that City of Derry is an airport for the whole Northwest of Ireland and not just Derry. A look at the car park and those waiting to pick up shows loads of Donegal car registrations.
As I type this I am sitting on a balcony in a hotel in Portugal having flown from Derry to Faro last week and returning next week. The outbound flight was practically full and the flight was a mixture of Derry, Donegal, Coleraine, Maghera, Letterkenny, Donegal Town etc etc etc passengers.
Anyway, of to pour myself another glass of red.....cheers!
What you 'all roads lead to Belshaft' set seem to forget is that City of Derry is an airport for the whole Northwest of Ireland and not just Derry. A look at the car park and those waiting to pick up shows loads of Donegal car registrations.
As I type this I am sitting on a balcony in a hotel in Portugal having flown from Derry to Faro last week and returning next week. The outbound flight was practically full and the flight was a mixture of Derry, Donegal, Coleraine, Maghera, Letterkenny, Donegal Town etc etc etc passengers.
Anyway, of to pour myself another glass of red.....cheers!
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I think Tower Ranger is enjoying himself in a successful career in which he has progressed through many years.
City of Derry is a one of the finest examples of a mis-managed local authority business by a council that does not know what to do with it. With the no. of 737/320 operations going in and out it should make money, no radar for inbound and outbound aircraft, unfortunately it will continue to lose money unless they stop looking in a match box and start looking outside it.
Its not to late to correct the mistakes of the past!
City of Derry is a one of the finest examples of a mis-managed local authority business by a council that does not know what to do with it. With the no. of 737/320 operations going in and out it should make money, no radar for inbound and outbound aircraft, unfortunately it will continue to lose money unless they stop looking in a match box and start looking outside it.
Its not to late to correct the mistakes of the past!
I think Tower Ranger is enjoying himself in a successful career in which he has progressed through many years.
If pushing tin at BFS (as his name would suggest) is the zenith of all ambition, then great! There are ever so slighty busier airports in the UK and Ireland where one could pinnacle.
Its not to late to correct the mistakes of the past!
Joking/ribbing aside. As Tower will know from his reading of this forum, I have often criticised the management of LDY. The latest example of actions worth criticising is the planned/actioned expansion of the terminal and car parking in a time of reducing pax numbers and reduction in flights. Speculate to accumulate may work in some forums of life. A Council-funded airport ain't one of them.
Still.
Show me a well-run airport in NI.
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CutHere, you, like many of the members of DCC have failed to notice what's right in front of your noses. For too many years Eglinton/City of Derry was run like an old boys club and it is only open because its funded by tax payers both north and south of the river, so to speak.
But CutHere, just pause for a second, breathe and see what else you've missed before you launch your next half witted tyrade against me.
Have a quick look at my location, who I am is very easy to work out. But just in case you think I don't push enough tin, as if that means anything, I work at DXB and we move 1100 planes a day of which 85% are heavies. There are 39 A380's based at DXB and that is growing by at least one each month.
But hey, what do I know, I only talk to planes for a living whilst you're the ATC expert!
But CutHere, just pause for a second, breathe and see what else you've missed before you launch your next half witted tyrade against me.
Have a quick look at my location, who I am is very easy to work out. But just in case you think I don't push enough tin, as if that means anything, I work at DXB and we move 1100 planes a day of which 85% are heavies. There are 39 A380's based at DXB and that is growing by at least one each month.
But hey, what do I know, I only talk to planes for a living whilst you're the ATC expert!
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I wonder how those who were evicted from their homes at tax-payers expense so that the runway extension could go ahead for the big expansion of services that was to follow feel now?
Or do they matter at all?
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Or do they matter at all?
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Tower, I saw your location- nice airport Dubai (though I couldn't take the heat (meteorologically speaking) when I worked there). Serco still fun to work for?
I've also worked at Heathrow (up to 1400 flights a day, and that's not during 24 hour ops) and Frankfurt over the years, as well as RAF Linton-on-Ouse and various others. Does that mean I'm better? Probably not.
I saw your location, and assumed it was an error and you must be back in Norn Iron. Either that or your love for the place must be strong. Still being exercised by LDY's existence from the Middle East- impressive! Also, you need to differentiate between a tirade and a bit of banter (and remember this:
- you got what you wanted!)
Tower and True, have a look back through my posts. I have frequently criticised LDY. The previous management was a particular target of my malcontent. Their incompetence was highlighted by the CAA's closure of the airport due to safety issues a few years back. The current management do seem to be trying, but in difficult economic circumstances. Unless they have a joker up their sleeves, then I agree, LDY is in trouble. I have also criticised those very optimistic types who keep thinking new routes are imminent.
What I do dislike is the ranting about tax-payers' money being wasted. After the policing costs of the summer just gone, which could have paid the running costs of LDY for several years, and the amount of money being planned to be spent on various sports stadiums, the (relatively) small outlay that LDY requires, in the context of sh?te roads to the NW, is entirely fair....for now.
I've also worked at Heathrow (up to 1400 flights a day, and that's not during 24 hour ops) and Frankfurt over the years, as well as RAF Linton-on-Ouse and various others. Does that mean I'm better? Probably not.
I saw your location, and assumed it was an error and you must be back in Norn Iron. Either that or your love for the place must be strong. Still being exercised by LDY's existence from the Middle East- impressive! Also, you need to differentiate between a tirade and a bit of banter (and remember this:
This thread has been so quiet recently that I feel it's only right to spice it up.
Tower and True, have a look back through my posts. I have frequently criticised LDY. The previous management was a particular target of my malcontent. Their incompetence was highlighted by the CAA's closure of the airport due to safety issues a few years back. The current management do seem to be trying, but in difficult economic circumstances. Unless they have a joker up their sleeves, then I agree, LDY is in trouble. I have also criticised those very optimistic types who keep thinking new routes are imminent.
What I do dislike is the ranting about tax-payers' money being wasted. After the policing costs of the summer just gone, which could have paid the running costs of LDY for several years, and the amount of money being planned to be spent on various sports stadiums, the (relatively) small outlay that LDY requires, in the context of sh?te roads to the NW, is entirely fair....for now.
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Never mind the Summers policing costs, if you were able to recover the Bloody Sunday Enquiry costs you could have run all three airports for a few years!
I have family and properties in the area and friends still working in the NI aviation sector so I like to stay in touch with what's happening.
CutHere, you don't really come across as the ATC type and I'm fairly sure I know all the Northern Irish ATCO's who've been through Dubai, did you work in the Met office at DXB n LHR?
I have family and properties in the area and friends still working in the NI aviation sector so I like to stay in touch with what's happening.
CutHere, you don't really come across as the ATC type and I'm fairly sure I know all the Northern Irish ATCO's who've been through Dubai, did you work in the Met office at DXB n LHR?
Oh dear. Are you equating the murder (as accepted by the Prime Minister, and indeed UK law) of fourteen people, to a bunch of people who think drinking twelve Strongbow by noon and then indulging in "recreational" rioting is a good way to show disquiet over NI coming into line with the rest of the UK when it comes to flying flags? There goes a bit of respect I have had for you.
If such behaviours (on ALL sides) stopped, then the number of people visiting NI would go up, inward investment might increase, and all three airports would see real growth, rather than the cannibalisation of routes we've seen over the years.
As for the Met Office, it closed during my time at LHR, but believe it has reopened since. A good move in my mind, and in the minds of people who work there.
How should an ATC type behave? Did I say I was Northern Irish? (plural of ATCO is ATCOs- you can have that one for free).
As an aside. Did you have a look back through my posts over the years? If so, did you discover how often I've criticised LDY's management? Have I espoused a position where LDY would be anything other than a regional airport?
Enjoy the heat. I'll keep an eye out for you on the Discovery Channel.
If such behaviours (on ALL sides) stopped, then the number of people visiting NI would go up, inward investment might increase, and all three airports would see real growth, rather than the cannibalisation of routes we've seen over the years.
As for the Met Office, it closed during my time at LHR, but believe it has reopened since. A good move in my mind, and in the minds of people who work there.
you don't really come across as the ATC type and I'm fairly sure I know all the Northern Irish ATCO's
As an aside. Did you have a look back through my posts over the years? If so, did you discover how often I've criticised LDY's management? Have I espoused a position where LDY would be anything other than a regional airport?
Enjoy the heat. I'll keep an eye out for you on the Discovery Channel.
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If any airports had to close in Ulster, it probably should be one of the Belfast airports as well as Donegal airport. The main population centre in Co Donegal is far closer to Derry airport.
For starters, the PSO route to Donegal from Dublin should be rerouted to Derry.
In general the airport infrastructure in Belfast and Derry are light years behind Dublin, Cork and Shannon.
If Derry airport could hire the management of Ireland West, Knock airport, probably the most successful airport through the recession, maybe they could replicate some of the growth in Derry Airport.
For starters, the PSO route to Donegal from Dublin should be rerouted to Derry.
In general the airport infrastructure in Belfast and Derry are light years behind Dublin, Cork and Shannon.
If Derry airport could hire the management of Ireland West, Knock airport, probably the most successful airport through the recession, maybe they could replicate some of the growth in Derry Airport.
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When last I looked, Donegal was in the Republic!!
If any airports had to close in Ulster, it probably should be one of the Belfast airports as well as Donegal airport