Payday at Arik Air
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First Nation is just another name for Bellview with a new backer. Thing is, how do they get their AOC back. It should take over 12 months to go through the process. For an airline like 1St Nation with all Bellview personnell, will the NCAA give them approval?
I understand training has already been done? on which AOC.
Here we go again
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I understand training has already been done? on which AOC.
Here we go again
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Airline reaches milestone carrying 5 millionth passenger during summer period
Arik Air sees significant rise in passenger figures for August - {Travel Daily News}
In the article, watch out for these two underlined comical lines from AJ (see excerpts below):
Arik Air underwent a rapid expansion in 2009 and this year the focus has been on consolidating in these new markets – from introducing our truly unique service and offering on new and under utilized routes, the aim has been to maintain those standards that set us apart from our competitors; I feel we have achieved this and the figures speak for themselves.
Will that dumb 5,000,000th pax please stand up for recognition? I hope it wasn't that guy who smashed Arik's computers at their check-in desk in MMIA.
I wonder how long it will take to carry another million pax.
In the article, watch out for these two underlined comical lines from AJ (see excerpts below):
Arik Air underwent a rapid expansion in 2009 and this year the focus has been on consolidating in these new markets – from introducing our truly unique service and offering on new and under utilized routes, the aim has been to maintain those standards that set us apart from our competitors; I feel we have achieved this and the figures speak for themselves.
Will that dumb 5,000,000th pax please stand up for recognition? I hope it wasn't that guy who smashed Arik's computers at their check-in desk in MMIA.
I wonder how long it will take to carry another million pax.
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Increase in Passengers
Nigerian aviation 'experts' have been banging on about the increase in pax numbers for years.
What doesn't add up is with all this extra business the airlines are still going bust...
If BA, LH, DL, AF, VS etc could post pax increases of 10.3% then everyone would know they are heading for bumper profits and dividends.
Just think what the Nigerian aviation sector would have been like without W3 and their 'funny funds' corrupting the sector and supplying too much capacity too quickly. VK & AJ would be in a much better place, with VK still sporting a global brand and gaining international market share and good yield on Long-haul that W3 can only dream of. AJ servicing the oil sector and still having full service. Even B3 might still be operating (maybe not so good)
The Big Boys in Abuja really messed up in the name of greed back, I hope it was worth it just to get rid of the 'black money'
What doesn't add up is with all this extra business the airlines are still going bust...
If BA, LH, DL, AF, VS etc could post pax increases of 10.3% then everyone would know they are heading for bumper profits and dividends.
Just think what the Nigerian aviation sector would have been like without W3 and their 'funny funds' corrupting the sector and supplying too much capacity too quickly. VK & AJ would be in a much better place, with VK still sporting a global brand and gaining international market share and good yield on Long-haul that W3 can only dream of. AJ servicing the oil sector and still having full service. Even B3 might still be operating (maybe not so good)
The Big Boys in Abuja really messed up in the name of greed back, I hope it was worth it just to get rid of the 'black money'
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"This Day" had a full page advert pronouncing some huge amount of money was being taken out of Naija by those non-Nigerian airlines... so fly the patriotic airline, Arik ! You won't see many non-flattering articles in This Day about Arik. They hand Arik an award every year for being the most awesomeness airline in the world.
The advert stuck me as grasping at straws.
By the way, Air Nigeria is planning B737NG's to go to London. I think they could really kill Arik on that route with the reputation Arik has earned of Late, Later, Cancelled, Filthy, and Hungry.
On the salary front, some people have gotten paid. I don't know yet if this will be the standard scam of pay just enough to keep some people working, and then pay the rest in a week or three.
LOTS of people walking this month.
The advert stuck me as grasping at straws.
By the way, Air Nigeria is planning B737NG's to go to London. I think they could really kill Arik on that route with the reputation Arik has earned of Late, Later, Cancelled, Filthy, and Hungry.
On the salary front, some people have gotten paid. I don't know yet if this will be the standard scam of pay just enough to keep some people working, and then pay the rest in a week or three.
LOTS of people walking this month.
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Sorry to say, but Air Nigeria will not be killing Arik Air on the LHR route if they plan to use a 737. Lets not forget they abandoned the route because of losses they were sustaining on the route so it's hardly a given they will eliminate a competitor with lets face it a better hard product. Soft product is anyone's guess.
Quite frankly I think the govt aviation agencies are really doing a disservice to the Nigerian Aviation industry and it's players. It's almost as if when you get too big, you fear the govt and not your competitors. Yesterday's Virgin Nigeria is today's Arik could be tomorrow's Aero/Dana Air, etc. Ridiculous industry. All it takes is a 's'election.
Quite frankly I think the govt aviation agencies are really doing a disservice to the Nigerian Aviation industry and it's players. It's almost as if when you get too big, you fear the govt and not your competitors. Yesterday's Virgin Nigeria is today's Arik could be tomorrow's Aero/Dana Air, etc. Ridiculous industry. All it takes is a 's'election.
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I think Air Nigeria will wipe the floor with Arik. Why?
1) They flew to LGW not LHR
2) In the last 12 months of the route, even with a horrible hard product the average LF was 77.3%.
This includes the peaks and troughs throughout the year.
3) They can take you further than London (even into Europe with their interline partners).
4) They withdrew because of losses because the wet-lease was too expensive, not due to loads.
5) Even on the JNB route they gave SAA a run for their money and had a slightly bigger market share at the time of suspension.
Unfortunately, due to my distance from the action, can't confirm news about the B737, but I'm sure Arik will be history(unless they change their strategy on the route) if Air Nigeria flies to London. Hard product is not everything.
1) They flew to LGW not LHR
2) In the last 12 months of the route, even with a horrible hard product the average LF was 77.3%.
This includes the peaks and troughs throughout the year.3) They can take you further than London (even into Europe with their interline partners).
4) They withdrew because of losses because the wet-lease was too expensive, not due to loads.
5) Even on the JNB route they gave SAA a run for their money and had a slightly bigger market share at the time of suspension.
Unfortunately, due to my distance from the action, can't confirm news about the B737, but I'm sure Arik will be history(unless they change their strategy on the route) if Air Nigeria flies to London. Hard product is not everything.
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Reality on ground is that it is very much possible to fill a twotter with 100% load to LHR with any carrier other than Arik! See small print below.
Small Print: Twotter that has a gigantic aux tanks!
Small Print: Twotter that has a gigantic aux tanks!
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Arik Order 100 New Generation Twotters for Mass EXpansion
Oba1, have you heard?
From the grapevine, Arik are jumping onto the Viking's order sheet and buying all the available options for a massive expansion drive so that they can carry another million pax within 6 months.
Now, who needs a job?
From the grapevine, Arik are jumping onto the Viking's order sheet and buying all the available options for a massive expansion drive so that they can carry another million pax within 6 months.
Now, who needs a job?
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Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it) Arik is flying to ALOT of undesireable (from a profit stanpoint) locations within Nigeria. Perhaps they can clip their wings alittle and jettison some weak destinations in order to reduce costs.
Meanwhile the issue of dud checks presented to NCAA appears not to be an Arik issue, but with the way the NCAA attempted to cash the checks.
Arik Air Blames NCAA Over Dud Cheques | P.M. NEWS Nigeria
Meanwhile the issue of dud checks presented to NCAA appears not to be an Arik issue, but with the way the NCAA attempted to cash the checks.
Arik Air Blames NCAA Over Dud Cheques | P.M. NEWS Nigeria
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Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it) Arik is flying to ALOT of undesireable (from a profit stanpoint) locations within Nigeria. Perhaps they can clip their wings alittle and jettison some weak destinations in order to reduce costs.
Number one money loser is New York, not any route in Nigeria. Some of those routes are grossly subsidized. Uyo was started at 100% seats purchased by the government there, but of course, Arik screwed that one up, and we don't fly there at all. Dana does, of course, with really good loads.
Gombe is subsidized. And others.
Number two weak route is probably Abuja to London. I think I heard 47 went today on flight 105.
Akure, sure, you could cut that. But it doesn't cost much to send a Q400 there, as opposed to sending big planes for multiple hour trips with a few dozen pax.
Meanwhile the issue of dud checks presented to NCAA appears not to be an Arik issue, but with the way the NCAA attempted to cash the checks.
Arik Air Blames NCAA Over Dud Cheques | P.M. NEWS Nigeria
Arik Air Blames NCAA Over Dud Cheques | P.M. NEWS Nigeria
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Did LH Technik Get Paid?
Did LH Technik Get Paid?
The Dud Check's to the NCAA cover story is brilliant - I take it that means in the last 4 years of Op's this is the first time W3 have paid so the NCAA didn't know what the procedure was
LOL!
The biggest mistake made by VK was pulling off London - why?
I'll tell you.. 1) when the decision was made oil was USD147 a barrel, by the time they pulled off oil was below USD70 a barrel and falling = route covering it's costs and more. But by then UBA were calling the shots and they were convinced (alledgely)that Virgin were using the route as a method to get the money out of VK = wrong!
2) Within weeks of them pulling off London the CBN effectively shut down the Forex system in Nigeria. VK's access to hard international currency to pay international suppliers -which all airlines need - was effectively cut off. UBA didn't see that coming as they were too busy saving their own skin from the impending CBN clampdown on banks.
3) Everyone at VK HQ was convinced that the Nigerian Domestic Routes are profitable - hmm how many Nigerian airlines will still claim that is true?
Just think what VK could have achieved if they had access to the W3 A340 Long Haul product rather than 2 very worn out unreliable B767.
NYC/LON are not set up to make money for W3, it's obvious, Arik Air pay HiFly who pay Arik Air International = a great way to move funds out of Nigeria, A very patriotic airline as advertised in This Day.
Another patriotic question... why do the top jobs at W3 only get advertised overseas and not on their website under careers?
The Dud Check's to the NCAA cover story is brilliant - I take it that means in the last 4 years of Op's this is the first time W3 have paid so the NCAA didn't know what the procedure was
LOL!The biggest mistake made by VK was pulling off London - why?
I'll tell you.. 1) when the decision was made oil was USD147 a barrel, by the time they pulled off oil was below USD70 a barrel and falling = route covering it's costs and more. But by then UBA were calling the shots and they were convinced (alledgely)that Virgin were using the route as a method to get the money out of VK = wrong!
2) Within weeks of them pulling off London the CBN effectively shut down the Forex system in Nigeria. VK's access to hard international currency to pay international suppliers -which all airlines need - was effectively cut off. UBA didn't see that coming as they were too busy saving their own skin from the impending CBN clampdown on banks.
3) Everyone at VK HQ was convinced that the Nigerian Domestic Routes are profitable - hmm how many Nigerian airlines will still claim that is true?
Just think what VK could have achieved if they had access to the W3 A340 Long Haul product rather than 2 very worn out unreliable B767.
NYC/LON are not set up to make money for W3, it's obvious, Arik Air pay HiFly who pay Arik Air International = a great way to move funds out of Nigeria, A very patriotic airline as advertised in This Day.
Another patriotic question... why do the top jobs at W3 only get advertised overseas and not on their website under careers?
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Out of curiousty
Hi guys, I have had my eye on Arik Air and have been following this thread for a while now. Normally I don't engage in forums but I am seriously considering employment with the airline and felt I should get some more information. I have just seen Arik's news on carrying the 5 millionth pax as well as obtaining the Cat 1 Status. They seem to be a rapidly growing and ambitious airline.
Could all the issues noted above not be attributed to growing pains? On an important note, have they actually defaulted on any salary payments as of this time? I ask because although I see the same grievance towards the end of every month regarding payment of salaries, it doesn't appear that there are many employees walking out - am I wrong? does it have a high employee turnover?
I ask the question because I cannot seem to match the salary that their offering within Europe at the moment and I really don't fancy going to the middle east. The offer of one month on/off is also very attractive.
Could all the issues noted above not be attributed to growing pains? On an important note, have they actually defaulted on any salary payments as of this time? I ask because although I see the same grievance towards the end of every month regarding payment of salaries, it doesn't appear that there are many employees walking out - am I wrong? does it have a high employee turnover?
I ask the question because I cannot seem to match the salary that their offering within Europe at the moment and I really don't fancy going to the middle east.
The offer of one month on/off is also very attractive.
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They seem to be a rapidly growing and ambitious airline
The facts speak for themselves. Salaries are paid late, bills are not paid, suppliers have had enough and are demanding cash up front.
There is NO MONEY. Bums on seats do not make money. PROFIT makes money and they are not making enough profit to pay the bills.
They will continue to stagger from one day to the next until either they go bust or they find a massive new source of investment.
Are you feeling lucky ?
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I've wondered that myself, why they typically don't advertise positions on their website???
Arik has alot of inefficiencies so not all their woes are due to growing pains.
Another patriotic question... why do the top jobs at W3 only get advertised overseas and not on their website under careers?
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Arik Air is not growing at the moment. From it's peak, it probably has less aircraft operating now. Denim is long gone (with Arik owing $3million USD). "Bravo" (737) is gone. I believe that the only aircraft to arrive in 2010 is the A330, which has flown about 100 total hours. Much of that time has been non-revenue service for proving flights and repositioning.
B737's are getting parked, for lack of crews and the bits that keep them running. Arik's credit is so poor, that some tyre suppliers will not provide service even with cash in hand. They are sick of the games.
CRJ is grounded for brakes (again). The two Q400's are flying routes previously only flown by CRJ / B737.
The competition says that Arik is the best advert they have. Lots of new customers telling the tales of woe at Arik (but you won't read that in "bought and paid for" This Day).
Next month is 4 years of operation. Still no IOSA. Still no ticket sales at the new domestic terminal (a big empty office sits abandoned). Six months have passed without a permanent MD.
Nobody has actually received the advertised 30 on / 30 off. So, good luck with that. I've said it before; pilots are our own worst enemy. They truly will keep coming with nothing more than words, until the day they lock the doors for good.
B737's are getting parked, for lack of crews and the bits that keep them running. Arik's credit is so poor, that some tyre suppliers will not provide service even with cash in hand. They are sick of the games.
CRJ is grounded for brakes (again). The two Q400's are flying routes previously only flown by CRJ / B737.
The competition says that Arik is the best advert they have. Lots of new customers telling the tales of woe at Arik (but you won't read that in "bought and paid for" This Day).
Next month is 4 years of operation. Still no IOSA. Still no ticket sales at the new domestic terminal (a big empty office sits abandoned). Six months have passed without a permanent MD.
Nobody has actually received the advertised 30 on / 30 off. So, good luck with that. I've said it before; pilots are our own worst enemy. They truly will keep coming with nothing more than words, until the day they lock the doors for good.
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Dude,
If you hate Arik so much why are you still sticking around there huh ?
Why dont you leave then huh ?
Or is the reason that you are still there because nobody else will take you......
Careful dude big brother is watching
If you hate Arik so much why are you still sticking around there huh ?
Why dont you leave then huh ?
Or is the reason that you are still there because nobody else will take you......
Careful dude big brother is watching
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Oba1kanobe is a legend!
Yogi or Yoda? Leave Oba1 alone, there's something called freedom of speech & freedom of expression. What makes you think he's not waiting for the perfect time to piss on W3 like they've been doing to him? Trust me, he's the only one you know, there are many others out there.
I reckon your main issue here is the fact that Oba1 the legend has been helping other ignorant innocents from falling into AJ's trap, maybe you are just an errand boy to scare the bloke?
Go flog your useless Big Brother Camera because it can't see Oba1kanobe's lightsaber, so stop the threats 'Dude'!
I reckon your main issue here is the fact that Oba1 the legend has been helping other ignorant innocents from falling into AJ's trap, maybe you are just an errand boy to scare the bloke?
Go flog your useless Big Brother Camera because it can't see Oba1kanobe's lightsaber, so stop the threats 'Dude'!
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Ray of Hope for Arik Air
I see Presidential candidate Babangida is rumored to have selected
Peter Odili to run as his Vice President
If this unholy alliance were to by some chance win = happy days for Arik again.
Peter Odili to run as his Vice President
If this unholy alliance were to by some chance win = happy days for Arik again.