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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 09:42
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Court Case Since 2002?

Arik wasn't even founded until 2006 - how is this connected?

According to the website normal ops today, is this true?

VK have put on extra flights on LOSPHC, this all reminds me of 2007 and the events leading up to VK's eviction from MMIA. I see AJ are thinking of moving to GAT as MM2 is too expensive, isn't there an outstanding court case from BiCourtney to shut that down as well, AJ's move may bring the issue to a head...

What goes around comes around - especially in Nigeria when your political protection disappears.
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 09:55
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"For fear of disappointing its passengers on the London route, the airline, however, succumbed to NAMA’s pay-as-you-go policy as the airline was said to have rushed to pay $25,000.00 from its accumulated debts running into over $1.5 million."


Didn't Arik employees get a letter from Lydia / Dr. M that proclaimed that they absolutely did not owe the huge amounts of money claimed, and that they were "going to sue" !!!!???

It was all a vicious rumour spread by pilots.
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 10:34
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Guys, from the grapevine, i gather that he's waiting for the $700,000 he's charged the Nigerian Government to fly the soccer team into South Africa for this World Cup thingy.
I heard that still hasn't been paid.
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 10:39
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Guys, from the grapevine, i gather that he's waiting for the $700,000 he's charged the Nigerian Government to fly the soccer team into South Africa for this World Cup thingy.

I heard that still hasn't been paid.
Now there's a surprise!
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 11:38
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This is truly reminiscent of the what went down with VK not too long ago. Nigeria could easily have had two large carriers that in many ways would keep each other honest.

Is GAT big enough to accomodate not just Arik (who it is is already too small for) but Aero as well?
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 13:53
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Angel Bye bye Arik

Seriously though, poor Arik I feel most for our illustrious acting DFO Victor E and really hope he is having a good day sorting out their problems that have just been heaped on him and he had no part at all in creating.

RIP Arik. RIP

P.S. Any FO who wants short notice interview at Garuda Indonesia PM me as I have colleagues out here who have cancelled at short notice (accepted other offers) and they want guys who can start in two weeks time. $5200 per month, 12 wks on, 2 off, Biz class flight out and back. Serviced apartment, transport to from work. 1 yr contract initially. Good luck fellow Arik guys
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 18:50
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I read they coughed out N50m for todays ops. http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/09/02/...-n50m-to-nama/
I don't know if it is the money or dedicated staff keeping the company until now. Looks like chaos and mis-management will ruin the company and not lack of funds.
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 00:18
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Seriously though, poor Arik I feel most for our illustrious acting DFO Victor E and really hope he is having a good day sorting out their problems that have just been heaped on him and he had no part at all in creating.

V.E. is back in the home land on rotation and doing sims there. He's missing all the fireworks.

Another crazy day of flying at Arik. They hadn't paid for flight planning either. Pilots rostered for one of the sims were cancelled due to no payment. Getting fuel, if available, can take hours. Airplanes / crews all out of position. Crews timing out... not necessarily from flying, but waiting for fuel. Everything is hanging on, hour by hour.

Why on God's earth would these passengers come back at all? Extremely late or cancelled is the best Arik can do.
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 17:21
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Still no payday yet? What are the new DFOs & the new CP doing about this?
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 18:19
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"Still no payday yet? What are the new DFOs & the new CP doing about this?"

What can they do!!! They are not incharge of paying us

Definition and Designation.
DFO (Director of flight Operations)
CP (Chief Pilot)
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 23:03
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3ooks like Arik has responded to the article I posted in post: 232:

I think the response could have been more diplomatic though.

This is Arik's responce:

Arik Air Response To Mr. Akaninyene Inyang?s Report On SaharaReporters | Sahara Reporters
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 07:09
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The responses to Arik's Statement.....

"I am amused that Arik doesnot feel responsible for the whole saga. The reason Mr. Inyang went 'berserk'is because of the flight cancellation that he has no control over. It was Arik's responsibility."

xxxxxxx

"I am sure Arik Air Management would be aghast at the comments their attempted face-saving response has generated. The fact that the response contained numerous grammatical errors has not helped at all. The response was set out, completely unprofessionally, at the very least. It is a really bad piece, for an Airline of that repute. I have read several responses in situations of this type"

xxxxxxx

"I cant disclose my name(as I work for Arik), but all I have to say is the Moloku is very close to being fired.

I have also heard that Mr. Inyang is being compensated for all the loss (financially/emotionally) he faced during the horrific event. I guess, Arik is now on the path of improving its customer services, and making an effort in regaining its image as nigeria's only carrier."
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 09:55
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Arik is now on the path of improving its customer services, and making an effort in regaining its image as nigeria's only carrier."

In your dreams
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Old 6th Sep 2010, 16:12
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Well the management should not worry about paying the salary course soon there will be no pilots left to pay to
Pilots can just go somewhere else but I feel sorry for the hard working Cabin Crew and ground staff. I thought slavery was history and now you have a black Chairman abusing his own black people in his own country it’s a disgrace!
About reputation in the pilot world I would say good luck to get new pilots in
By the way according to PARC Air Nigeria need ASAP 20 Captains and 20 First Officers for the B737 so good news for the local pilots
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 20:55
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From the Aero Contractors pay thread:

"The pay cut for expats has been implemented already.Local pilots got full pay for august, but it came in very late i.e 6th september."


7 Sep.... still no pay at Arik
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 15:32
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Navigation Charges

Preferential treatment no longer exists - Minister

"The Punch", Thurs, 9 Sept 2010

The Minister of Aviation, Mrs. Fidelia Njeze, has said that the practise of "grand-father right" is no longer tenable in the aviation industry worldwide.

Grand-father right is the practise whereby an airline is given preferential treatment in the payment of some charges or certain privileges.......

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Still no paychecks. It will be interesting to see how many pilots become surprisingly unable to perform any duties for Arik Air on the 10th !!!

Tick,

Tock,

Tick,

Tock,

Tick,

Tock

It's the 10th !!!!

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Old 9th Sep 2010, 16:07
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...and how many will pick up and leave when they finally are paid. Any predictions?
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 18:59
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The problem is that by the time they are paid for August (at the end of September), they would now be owed another month so they'd hang on for that payment, and on, and on, and on....................
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 19:50
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Yes or by the time you have carried on working waiting for your salary to arrive late and it finally doesnt come at all you out of pocket by 2 months salary or worse

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Old 10th Sep 2010, 07:13
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Payday at Arik

Thursday and Friday are public holidays days in Nigeria, due to the Muslims ending the month of Fast.......surely the banks dont open on those days in Nigeria.
I expect payments for local staff will be on Monday 13th September 2010.
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