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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 12:36
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When I was still flying
Ah, now it makes sense.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 12:44
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I can assure you that the booze flows freely on BA flights to and from Saudi but not (I think) in their airspace. However its not a good idea to arrive there visibly intoxicated.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 13:29
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I also do not believe this is a question, but two amalgamated to make it seem ridiculous.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 14:11
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I'll admit it's a very odd question but:

it's BA's trainset so if you want the job you better come up with an answer.
Just about sums it up.

Unfortunately BA are not going to pay to put every applicant through a sim on day one so that those that can fly an outside loop, engine out can display their wares. Given numbers "HR" (or their outsourced recruiters if applicable) are going to put a pretty fine net on the pre sim no-tech filters.

For the unaware BA do make a very big deal out of their Diversity and Inclusion policy (going as far as having on some suitably selected line pilots pretty much on call to offer advice on the subject) so I'd suggest whether you think the question stinks or not if you're appying it's a case of "forewarned is forearmed....."

john smith:

BA is a British Airline. I can't think of many places worse to visit that Saudi, but in the event I ever had to go there, I'd be pretty irritated if the airline refused to serve alcohol or pork products to avoid offending cultural sensibilities.
You may well be irritated, I would as well, but as Max rightly says says booze is served on Saudi flights...

What a sad state of affairs that a once great British institution has allowed itself to descend to this.
Descend to what? I'd have thought having an policy which fundamentally boils down to: talk to people and treat people as you would wish to be talked to/treated yourself is a good thing.

In many ways it's like other formerly state run organisations (see the BBC, inter alia).
Oh no it's not...I can promise you any idea of BA being run like the BBC went out of the window the day Bob Ayling left.

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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 19:15
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Thanks to all for the discussion following my post.

Would someone kindly point out an actual example/a situation that relates to this interview question.

Thanks!

PS: My personal opinion is (again this is just personal!) that a "good pilot" in addition to outstanding flying skills features a fair share of non-technical talents as well.
I think it is a good thing that BA are taking that into consideration.

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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 19:19
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Just to confirm, I can categorically state that the question posed has never been asked and is certainly not in the current bank of questions!
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 19:24
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John Smith,

I don't normally post on this forum but feel compelled to say that I'm glad to hear that you're not to be found on any flighdeck let alone a BA one.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 19:31
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I'm just thankful that I don't have to put up with such tosh in my new career.
I'd love to know what that is.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 23:04
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Two pages of some very strident views? Perhaps you all need to chill and be accepting of other peoples' opinions.
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Old 23rd Oct 2016, 23:06
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Give us an example in your life when you have been too accommodating for reasons of cultural diversity and thereby have let someone else down
Well, how about this?

I personally have strong beliefs regarding animal welfare. Many others do too, and strongly disagree with halal slaughter. We neither need, nor want it. However, since halal is EVERYWHERE, in order to paint ourselves as 'diverse' in this PC world, we either become vegetarian, or sacrifice our beliefs, as we are forced to accept, 'our' beliefs are seen as less important?

Am I letting myself down?

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Old 24th Oct 2016, 08:27
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4468,
Quite possibly a perfect answer that many of us could use but I doubt I'd have thought of that on the spot.
Without wishing to detract from your thought provoking post how about a flippant example.
It's the belief ( now rescinded)of the airport authority at a certain UK airport is / was that Tabards should be worn to collect your case. The collection point is in the open air. However reading the user instructions of said tabard it states not to expose to UV light. So to adhere to the beliefs of the airport owners I'm damaging my employers property. I could of course wait for nightfall, a cloudy day or indeed wear the tabard under my uniform jacket as the requirements state a tabard must be worn but doesn't demand that it is used as an outer layer.
The requirement for female crew to wear a winter coat into a ME destination in 40 degree heat and your duty of care as a commander is another potential example.
I'm pleased it's not a real question though and agree it's an amalgamation of 2 questions.
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Old 24th Oct 2016, 09:09
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The requirement for female crew to wear a winter coat into a ME destination in 40 degree heat and your duty of care as a commander is another potential example.
Please s t , that's such an incredible/daft scenario nobody here will believe it's worthy of an answer...
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Old 24th Oct 2016, 09:26
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Oh yeah you'd only have that as an example AFTER you'd got the job,my bad.
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Old 24th Oct 2016, 10:37
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..yep, and you'll only realise after you've got the job just how much time and effort is spent by some in trying to avoid spending a penny more of the flight ops budget......but I digress....

BTW what's the answer to the question ?
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Old 26th Oct 2016, 19:21
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Joined around 6 months ago, last few months of submitting preferences have resulted in a total of zero of those preferences becoming reality (and they weren't particularly unrealistic!)

The swapping system however works well and gives junior guys like myself a chance to control things to an extent.
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Old 26th Oct 2016, 19:25
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Expect to work 3 out of 4 weekends per month roughly. If you are a sharp swapper and user of open time that can be reduced if you can hack the minimum 2 local nights rest at base or are willing to back to back the 3 day African trips.

Blind lines thus far as someone 80-90% down the fleet list are pretty good. Preferences depend on how you use them - if you ask for lots of things you are unlikely to get much. If you make one or two, you are more likely to be in luck. Whenever I have needed a specific day or weekend off, solely putting that as your preferences or a call to preops have solved the problem.

Trip swapping with other guys on the fleet is what really allows you control of your life. In the months I've been on line, I've never flown more than one or two of the trips on my original line, and never once flown the roster I was originally given.

It's a great fleet, you'll love it.

Edit to say strange that my experience with preferences is so different, maybe Ive just been lucky thus far.
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Old 1st Nov 2016, 10:06
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Has anybody heard any rustlings regarding any more long haul positions becoming available or is it still only short haul?

Hearing that the bid results have been delayed?
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Old 1st Nov 2016, 15:41
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The requirement for female crew to wear a winter coat into a ME destination in 40 degree heat and your duty of care as a commander is another potential example.
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Old 1st Nov 2016, 15:44
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Swapping and sector swapping is the way ahead. Can completely re-write the roster and extend or reduce trip length. All subject to FTLs. The beauty is that if its legal then it can be done, via computer and not at the whim of a person.
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Old 1st Nov 2016, 16:04
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Agreed, but we have been here before when eMaestro was introduced, what, a decade or so back? Given the current state of play excluding the "whim of the person" in management seems to be the big problem..

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