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Old 16th Dec 2015, 23:05
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Stocious
I don't expect you LHR boys will change mindsets easily.
Oh dear. Did it ever occur to you that many of "you LHR boys" actually used to be 'LGW boys'? (and girls??)

You know a little of BA. That's perfectly understandable. Many have been on the same path you are currently on. They moved on. As will you.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 10:06
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you mention of good quality of life but I'd like to hear from LH people who've been in a few years.
I've been in 10 years, joining as a DEP on 777.

As probably mentioned, lifestyle means different things to different people. My preference is flying East with the odd Caribbean and South American trip for variety. I rarely go to the US, maybe twice a year. I can achieve this easily and I am about 35% from the bottom of the list.

Swapping and sector swapping is very popular and with luck you can re-write your whole roster.

Blind lines only by bidding mistakes, I was wiped recently as I underbid and was given 3x5 day trips for the month.

Can always get leave in summer, but have not really tried for Christmas.

Have the seniority to achieve Airbus SH captaincy but would think about maybe 787 instead, just for a change, but equally happy on the 777.

When I last looked we had 50 different destinations and there is usually enough time to make the most of any place.

My choice to go East, others like going West or beach or golf or kite surf of time at home or weekends at home. Consequently used to the time change, can sleep down route and have no issues forgetting about work and relaxing in the UK.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 17:47
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Oh dear. Did it ever occur to you that many of "you LHR boys" actually used to be 'LGW boys'? (and girls??)

You know a little of BA. That's perfectly understandable. Many have been on the same path you are currently on. They moved on. As will you.
Thanks for the education.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 22:22
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LGW...

Isn't that what they put next to that extra 5 tons of fuel they load? I've never actually known what that stood for.

I always thought it was like some kind of soccer chant. You know, like "Let's Go Worldwide", and here's lots of gas to do it...

BA: great for some, shite for others. Kinda like everything else in life.

Best of luck to everyone trying to get in.

Cheers

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Old 20th Dec 2015, 11:49
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Smile Drowning in the holdpool

Hi all,

I've been in the holdpool since before the summer 767 rated, unfrozen but havnt quite got the hours for long haul. I doubt I will make the hours up by the time I'm due to drop out. Can anyone shed any light on whether short haul recruitment may kick off again for non rated people?
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 14:08
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Pick up the bone to LC or LA. Sure they would be happy to talk to you
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 16:24
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Hi Guy's

I am french, mid 30's and A380 F/O with Ek, expecting left seat within the next year.
Looks like that BA is coming to DXB for roadshows to find type rated 380 FO.
I am seriously considering trying to join, even if it means a big pay cut and a long time on the right seat.
Couple of questions if someone has the answers that would be cool.

-Is there a lot of guys commuting to france or south of Europe?

-Salaray when joining is around 54000 what about after 4-5 years. Cannot find the pay scale anywhere.

-Upgrade on the 380 or LH, 10-12-15years?

Ek is good to me so far, but I don't see myself and familly staying here more than another 5 years.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 17:28
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Originally Posted by lfrk View Post
Hi Guy's

I am french, mid 30's and A380 F/O with Ek, expecting left seat within the next year.
Looks like that BA is coming to DXB for roadshows to find type rated 380 FO.
I am seriously considering trying to join, even if it means a big pay cut and a long time on the right seat.
Couple of questions if someone has the answers that would be cool.

-Is there a lot of guys commuting to france or south of Europe?

-Salaray when joining is around 54000 what about after 4-5 years. Cannot find the pay scale anywhere.

-Upgrade on the 380 or LH, 10-12-15years?

Ek is good to me so far, but I don't see myself and familly staying here more than another 5 years.
I'll let someone else discuss the pay points.

French commuters? Dozens, probably hundreds. If you include cabin crew, possibly more.

Left seat A380. Plan on twenty. It's a smallish fleet and those skippers who are there will want to stay. Many new Longhaul captains are aged around 40 so will be there for a long time.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 17:49
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Long Haul FO increment is just under 3000 per year.

Commuting no problem on the 380. Of the daily departures there are 3 FO slots on 3 day trips (will be 5 for part of summer), 6 on 4 day, and 6 on 5 day. So the majority of trips are longish, most get back early, none too late for flights to France, and only 1 of the reports (2 in summer) isn't commutable from France on the same day.

You aren't tied to A380 for upgrade, but, it will be long time if you don't want to fly another type. A350 may be less, and A320 certainly much much sooner.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 06:52
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Originally Posted by Hotel Mode View Post
Long Haul FO increment is just under 3000 per year.
Are you sure? With The 34 Pay points? Or are you talking about your contract here?
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 13:22
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Anyone who attended assessment day 1 last week heard back yet?
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 17:55
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It's about 1500 on the new pay points
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Old 23rd Dec 2015, 15:43
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Commuting no problem on the 380. Of the daily departures there are 3 FO slots on 3 day trips (will be 5 for part of summer), 6 on 4 day, and 6 on 5 day. So the majority of trips are longish, most get back early, none too late for flights to France, and only 1 of the reports (2 in summer) isn't commutable from France on the same day
Hotel Mode
Might need a read up on the new Crew Members responsibilities under EASA and FRMS.
If your commuting in and operating say in the evening to HKG if something happened you might be in some bother....
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Old 25th Dec 2015, 03:25
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Hey guys,

Merry Christmas! Just wondered if anyone has been able to find any good software in order to practice the computer based ECAM tester we now have to do on day 1? The one with TCAS problems etc.. I have been looking around online and can't really find anything that would be of any use.
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Old 25th Dec 2015, 12:06
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Thumbs up

SinBin,

We stay at BA to fly with you mate

Have a great Xmas in your new gaff
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Old 25th Dec 2015, 17:42
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Apparently, the number of boys being christened "Nigel" is at an all-time low; only ten in the UK last year. I wonder if BA's recruitment team are worried.
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Old 25th Dec 2015, 20:35
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The current campaign is also expecting to recruit a few named Nigella.
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Old 27th Dec 2015, 07:33
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No doubt the prospective Nigels will have read all about 'new shorthaul' arriving February.

Bidline has been 'switched off' for shorthaul, and you can now have 12hr 4 sector days and 10hr nightstops.

Think very carefully my friends, this is not going to be pretty.
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Old 27th Dec 2015, 09:21
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Bidline has been 'switched off' for shorthaul,
Pure and unadulterated horse poop. Bidline cannot be "switched off", it is part of the contract and the industrial limits cannot be overridden just because EASA has changed the FTL's. Any changes to the duty rig must be negotiated with BALPA. The most limiting of BLRs or the EASA FTL's will be the worst case. We are bidding for February at the moment and there is very little difference in SH. There will be bigger changes for LH where Back to Backs are no longer being rostered, either voluntarily or otherwise. Yes, there will be changes but no worse than every other company is facing and actually with a lot more protections than most.

Make yourself miserable with doom laden scenarios if you must but try to keep some element of reality in there - or just leave the profession, you will not be missed.
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Old 27th Dec 2015, 09:24
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Unless I've missed something, which is entirely possible, bidline rules have not been replaced, or modified. 10.4.1 still applies.
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