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Old 30th Jan 2018, 16:31
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Actually the rosters for March are pretty . CAP is 93:11 for FO's on the Airbus. Out of 307 trip lines only 11 of them will be sufficient for me to reach CAP. If this is March, what's the summer going to look like.

Would be great to see new guys coming in.

Obviously it's not the 7(?) guys out of the 479 FO's leading to the high CAP. It's the many people being promoted to LH or Captain (fantastic news btw). If I would run the show I would start at the bottom and make sure we have enough FO's on the Airbus before people leave the fleet, but I guess the beancounters don't want to have 10 FO's too many on a fleet...

Edit: Reading Wiggy's post, everyone seems to be working hard. Hope they get the recruitment machine up and running to the maximum.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 16:38
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If I would run the show I would start at the bottom and make sure we have enough FO's on the Airbus before people leave the fleet,
Err....right, nice in theory, ideal world etc, but be very careful with that thought.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 17:11
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have those doing the JSS training been pulled off line to do so or are they just doing the “job” in their normal BALPA days but are visible for once.
The 7 JSS trainers do about half their CAPs with Ground Days, either writing material or doing presentations, etc. So in fact it's 3.5 FOs worth of available FOs that have been taken away from the 320. None of them are BALPA reps. Normal line FOs who applied for the job.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 17:14
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Ah OK, I haven’t been in a position to actually attend one of these sessions so far but I stupidly assumed (yes I know) they were reps so many thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 20:02
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Writing material? Like stand up comedy?

Must be nice collecting all those Caffè Nerro stamps I guess.

Even a CAP increase of 1 hour can make the difference between having to pick up another day trip or not.

90 hours = 20 x 4.5 hr credit day trips, so 100-140 trips to be picked up by everyone else, so essentially 100-140 people with one or two less days off.
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Old 31st Jan 2018, 20:36
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The only job for experienced pilots advertised on the BA website at the moment is for Cityflyer DECs.
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Old 31st Jan 2018, 21:58
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Err ...that’s no doubt true because of the FPPs arriving and the DEP hold pool
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 08:01
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Expect some DEP 320 rated soon. They'll get as many 320 rated guys from the pool if possible to do a short typerating. Current holdpool non rated pilots might be surpassed by a new DEP round for rated guys/gals.

About 170 DEPs still in the holdpool. With the current plan all of those will get an offer in 2018. (Perhaps not on the position you have applied for (LH))

Horse's mouth
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 08:09
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They'll get as many 320 rated guys from the pool if possible to do a short typerating.
And they’ll receive a five year freeze for that whopping three sims on the Operators Conversion Course.
(Dons flak jacket, retreats to safe distance).
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 09:00
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Originally Posted by nrn View Post
Current holdpool non rated pilots might be surpassed by a new DEP round for rated guys/gals.
I hope that’s for short haul only? I reckon there won’t be too many 74/77/78 rated guys and gals in the pool. Seeing as one has entered the LH pool as a regional jet jockey, one hopes to receive a call

Thanks for any updates from within lads! Much appreciated.
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 09:46
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From what I gather, there is no LH pool. There is a BA holdpool. Might not be the news you want, but managing expectations and all of that.

(Hope you'll get what you applied for of course, but be prepared for something else).
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 10:12
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Of course, theres only one pool. Should’ve been more precise. I applied to the LH campaign back then. If a SH position comes around I’ll be happy to take it! It’s just being passed by type rated guys left right and centre is sometimes not easy. But it’s their train set!
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 11:16
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Well that’s 3 RYR guys I know of, off to BA. 1 747 and 2 777. If they were plucking rated LH DEPs out the pool then clearly they’ve exhausted them all, that or they’re just going down the list in order. Either way it’s good news for you Saab. Especially as their last email said they’d be no DEP offers in 2018. You’ll get your call soon don’t worry.

Plucking type rated guys out the pool is understandable. Last I checked, I’ve not received anything that says we’ll be called in the order we entered the pool. Very very first email mentioned that, ‘when matched with a pilot position in the airline, you will be contacted and given a verbal offer.’
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 11:54
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I wonder if people with a 737 rating will have a shorter course? I know, bit far fetched perhaps but I do believe Qatar airways did do a shortened course for small boeing to big boeing.

Perfectly understandable if they have a huge need for Airbus guys and need em ASAP. It’s all good news to be honest. From no DEP to at least a few
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 12:53
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No it won't be a shortened course, far from it!
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 14:17
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Any idea of split between LHR/LGW?
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 17:11
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On the SH airbus fleet leave buy back is now being offered for this summer for both first officers and captains.

I presume this is very positive news for the hold pool pilots.
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Old 1st Feb 2018, 20:15
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The latest company newsletter states rated DEPs joining the 777 in April, with more to come. Also anticipates DEPs on the 787 later in the year. Add that to those I know one way and have had long haul offers recently, there seems to be a fair bit of movement again all of a sudden. Good news for all!

Goes to show that any news from pilot recruitment, who, like everyone, are subject to the vagaries of the Big Plan, is accurate up to 0.01ms after the send button is pressed.
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Old 2nd Feb 2018, 06:19
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Goes to show that any news from pilot recruitment, who, like everyone, are subject to the vagaries of the Big Plan, is accurate up to 0.01ms after the send button is pressed.
Ain’t that the truth...though you might need to revise that figure to 0.001 milliseconds due to the introduction of JSS..., which, rumour has it, is leading to some of the current difficulties with predictions/forecasts regarding manning levels... .

It will be interesting to see how this plays out for everybody over the next few months:

For those already “in” will Bidline monthly rostering get a stay of execution? (edit to add: Just read something that might lead one to believe there might indeed be a temporary reprieve..though that would lead to high CAPs..there's a surprise)...

For those waiting to get into BA just how quickly and by how much will the level in the hold pool be lowered?

Anyway has been said by previous posters it can only be good news for the hold poolers, though of course 0.001 milliseconds will be up by the time you have read this.....

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Old 2nd Feb 2018, 11:21
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On the subject of leave buy back I can’t see a big uptake as the deal is not very good.
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