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Old 16th Dec 2015, 08:21
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Old f***?

Your next post will be your 3000th though....
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 08:28
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Aaarggh...

oooh ....Thanks for the heads up. Should I expect a PPRuNe recognition of long and loyal service bottle of champagne to arrive in the post ......or is the long service stuff here a bit like at BA ?????

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Old 16th Dec 2015, 11:08
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Your certificate is in the post....unframed!
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 12:18
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Hi all,

I'm starting at BA soon, A320 LHR. I will be commuting from Amsterdam. Planning to stay in a hotel when I'm at LHR. Any advice with hotels or other housing options?

Thanks!
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 13:30
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NLP

A few of the Bath Road hotels, such as the Ibis, the Arora, the Premier Inns (both the "T5" one and the Bath Road one), and the Hilton Garden Inn at Hatton Cross (formerly known as Jurys Inn - handy for the Training Centre) frequently offer discount, also there are a handful of crew B&Bs near the crew car park again just off the Bath Road.

You might want to contact those hotels direct at this stage and see if they can offer anything ahead of your joining BA/before you get ID. I'd best not put any required log-ons here - once you're "in" you may be able to find out full discount details via in company intranet/BALPA forum.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 14:08
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Either you haven't a clue what you're talking about, or your terminology is very sloppy?

Which is it?

If you live close to LGW, it can work of course. (Though everyone at Easy is paid better and works less) If you don't live close to LGW, it's unsustainable whoever you work for.
Clearly using a P instead of a C in that post means my terminology is very sloppy. Either that or I haven't a clue. Either way, I don't expect you LHR boys will change mindsets easily.

I'm not sure if the Easy guys do work less and get paid more to be honest. Ask the guys that are based at LGW that are ex-Easy (those giving up Commands as well) to see why they moved. I'm not sure why the comparison is made either - new joiners will be paid exactly the same as our own LHR colleagues. Have a look at a few recent months rosters to see how hard we're working.

It's unfair that LGW has the reputation that it seems to. My opinion only of course, having worked at LHR and LGW, and living almost midway between both it's a no-brainer for me.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 17:47
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One thing I've been noticing with regards to Easy v BA argument, you don't seem to have many BA guys justifying why they stay at BA....
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 18:06
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One thing I've been noticing with regards to Easy v BA argument, you don't seem to have many BA guys justifying why they stay at BA....
Or why they left BA for easy
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 19:32
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Or why they left BA for easy
Well this is very straightforward in the first instance - you can happily argue that there is no sensible starting package for an experienced pilot at easyJet. At least incomparable to the starting BA offer.

However I have to say from my personal experience that those who are happy at easyJet, living by the lake in the sunshine with part time fixed pattern rosters, simply have no interest in PPRuNe lifestyle debates and are certainly far too busy in their swimming pools to ever feel the need to justify their lifestyle choice.

Be careful the decisions you make based on a very limited and not necessarily complete survey group.
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 22:54
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So near yet so far !

Just fishing to see if any others are in a similar boat to myself, trying to make the last leap into the holdpool.

Aug, passed Day1. Sep, passed Day2. Since then I have been trying to get a SIM assessment slot but to no avail. I know an awful lot of hiring has taken place in this period but as a NTR ex mil mate without qualifying experience for the Long Haul slots I guess I'm pretty far down the list.

Last week my application was put on hold pending the next round of NTR recruitment, however no timescale given.

Rumours of huge recruitment are welcome, rumours of more NTR recruitment even more welcome.

Congratulations to all that have made it !!!
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Old 16th Dec 2015, 22:57
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However I have to say from my personal experience that those who are happy at easyJet, living by the lake in the sunshine with part time fixed pattern rosters, simply have no interest in PPRuNe lifestyle debates and are certainly far too busy in their swimming pools to ever feel the need to justify their lifestyle choice.
There are plenty of those types in BA as well!
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 00:05
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I don't expect you LHR boys will change mindsets easily.
Oh dear. Did it ever occur to you that many of "you LHR boys" actually used to be 'LGW boys'? (and girls??)

You know a little of BA. That's perfectly understandable. Many have been on the same path you are currently on. They moved on. As will you.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 11:06
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you mention of good quality of life but I'd like to hear from LH people who've been in a few years.
I've been in 10 years, joining as a DEP on 777.

As probably mentioned, lifestyle means different things to different people. My preference is flying East with the odd Caribbean and South American trip for variety. I rarely go to the US, maybe twice a year. I can achieve this easily and I am about 35% from the bottom of the list.

Swapping and sector swapping is very popular and with luck you can re-write your whole roster.

Blind lines only by bidding mistakes, I was wiped recently as I underbid and was given 3x5 day trips for the month.

Can always get leave in summer, but have not really tried for Christmas.

Have the seniority to achieve Airbus SH captaincy but would think about maybe 787 instead, just for a change, but equally happy on the 777.

When I last looked we had 50 different destinations and there is usually enough time to make the most of any place.

My choice to go East, others like going West or beach or golf or kite surf of time at home or weekends at home. Consequently used to the time change, can sleep down route and have no issues forgetting about work and relaxing in the UK.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 18:47
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Oh dear. Did it ever occur to you that many of "you LHR boys" actually used to be 'LGW boys'? (and girls??)

You know a little of BA. That's perfectly understandable. Many have been on the same path you are currently on. They moved on. As will you.
Thanks for the education.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 23:22
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LGW...

Isn't that what they put next to that extra 5 tons of fuel they load? I've never actually known what that stood for.

I always thought it was like some kind of soccer chant. You know, like "Let's Go Worldwide", and here's lots of gas to do it...

BA: great for some, shite for others. Kinda like everything else in life.

Best of luck to everyone trying to get in.

Cheers

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Old 20th Dec 2015, 12:49
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Smile Drowning in the holdpool

Hi all,

I've been in the holdpool since before the summer 767 rated, unfrozen but havnt quite got the hours for long haul. I doubt I will make the hours up by the time I'm due to drop out. Can anyone shed any light on whether short haul recruitment may kick off again for non rated people?
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 15:08
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Pick up the bone to LC or LA. Sure they would be happy to talk to you
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 17:24
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Hi Guy's

I am french, mid 30's and A380 F/O with Ek, expecting left seat within the next year.
Looks like that BA is coming to DXB for roadshows to find type rated 380 FO.
I am seriously considering trying to join, even if it means a big pay cut and a long time on the right seat.
Couple of questions if someone has the answers that would be cool.

-Is there a lot of guys commuting to france or south of Europe?

-Salaray when joining is around 54000 what about after 4-5 years. Cannot find the pay scale anywhere.

-Upgrade on the 380 or LH, 10-12-15years?

Ek is good to me so far, but I don't see myself and familly staying here more than another 5 years.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 18:28
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Originally Posted by lfrk View Post
Hi Guy's

I am french, mid 30's and A380 F/O with Ek, expecting left seat within the next year.
Looks like that BA is coming to DXB for roadshows to find type rated 380 FO.
I am seriously considering trying to join, even if it means a big pay cut and a long time on the right seat.
Couple of questions if someone has the answers that would be cool.

-Is there a lot of guys commuting to france or south of Europe?

-Salaray when joining is around 54000 what about after 4-5 years. Cannot find the pay scale anywhere.

-Upgrade on the 380 or LH, 10-12-15years?

Ek is good to me so far, but I don't see myself and familly staying here more than another 5 years.
I'll let someone else discuss the pay points.

French commuters? Dozens, probably hundreds. If you include cabin crew, possibly more.

Left seat A380. Plan on twenty. It's a smallish fleet and those skippers who are there will want to stay. Many new Longhaul captains are aged around 40 so will be there for a long time.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 18:49
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Long Haul FO increment is just under 3000 per year.

Commuting no problem on the 380. Of the daily departures there are 3 FO slots on 3 day trips (will be 5 for part of summer), 6 on 4 day, and 6 on 5 day. So the majority of trips are longish, most get back early, none too late for flights to France, and only 1 of the reports (2 in summer) isn't commutable from France on the same day.

You aren't tied to A380 for upgrade, but, it will be long time if you don't want to fly another type. A350 may be less, and A320 certainly much much sooner.
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