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For International Cadets.
For those who chooses the path to become a CX pilot through the introduction of international cadet scheme. I have this question in mind i want an answer to. 
Lets say you are that lucky person who was selected to become an international cadet, does that mean you are now fully committed to spend the rest of your life in Hong Kong or in Cathay Pacific? (well at least i think that's what CX hopes u to do...otherwise CX is gonna gain nothing out of it...unless u make Captain) And for the duration of ur CX career...spending at least 50% of ur monthly salary trying to get a good life out of Hong Kong (known for its high living cost) i.e. live in a reasonable apartment and own a luxurious car of ur dream n eat out at decent western restaurants......However, knowing there are people who are doing the same job as you (an SO or FO or whatever) that are getting paid almost twice as much as you because he/she has housing allowances (through direct entry) and all the other stuff that a local contract does not include or cover.
It seems to be a good deal for you and a good deal for CX right at the beginning doesn't it? Because people who apply for the cadet scheme dont usually have alot of experience or technically none. But in the long run...it seems you are just getting ripped off by the company, when you ask yourself am I an expat or not? And you are an expat for one good reason "You are a westerner working away from home"
So...does this lead you to the part where you are going to eventually make yourself a real expat that has real expat terms and conditions after a certain period of service? And how are you going to do that?
If you are ignoring this post after reading it, that means u are committed to getting ripped off in the long-run (by the statement above) or U already have other plans in mind after you have ur hrs.
If you dont think you are getting ripped off...then kindly leave a statement
Will be interesting to know what others think of this, in order to see a different point of view.
Cheers
Lets say you are that lucky person who was selected to become an international cadet, does that mean you are now fully committed to spend the rest of your life in Hong Kong or in Cathay Pacific? (well at least i think that's what CX hopes u to do...otherwise CX is gonna gain nothing out of it...unless u make Captain) And for the duration of ur CX career...spending at least 50% of ur monthly salary trying to get a good life out of Hong Kong (known for its high living cost) i.e. live in a reasonable apartment and own a luxurious car of ur dream n eat out at decent western restaurants......However, knowing there are people who are doing the same job as you (an SO or FO or whatever) that are getting paid almost twice as much as you because he/she has housing allowances (through direct entry) and all the other stuff that a local contract does not include or cover.
It seems to be a good deal for you and a good deal for CX right at the beginning doesn't it? Because people who apply for the cadet scheme dont usually have alot of experience or technically none. But in the long run...it seems you are just getting ripped off by the company, when you ask yourself am I an expat or not? And you are an expat for one good reason "You are a westerner working away from home"
So...does this lead you to the part where you are going to eventually make yourself a real expat that has real expat terms and conditions after a certain period of service? And how are you going to do that?
If you are ignoring this post after reading it, that means u are committed to getting ripped off in the long-run (by the statement above) or U already have other plans in mind after you have ur hrs.
If you dont think you are getting ripped off...then kindly leave a statement
Will be interesting to know what others think of this, in order to see a different point of view.Cheers
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as far as i concern the only party that affected the most by the new CPP entry requirements are the HK local. i can hardly think of any strong reason to support those who keep yelling how cx rip off the international applicants. if you think it's a rip off, well, DO NOT apply and apply through the traditional way - DE, this "rip off" will never be your problem. There is no doubt that this international CPP **** do have an affect to the DE in terms of the total vacancy, but it should be minor.
FOr those current "expats" who complain about not able to survive with the local pay, well, no one pointing a gun to your head to send the application. I expect all applications are all mature adult and know the consequence.
in addition, i dont believe in loyalty, what's keeping anyone to stay in a job, say CX in this case & be honest, is their pay, benefits, seniority etc., and the consequence or the possibility to move to other airlines.
the POS of the CPP is a fast track to major and for those who can't afford the initial training of their own.
they prepared a FULL meal (all ratings ) for sell, of course you have to pay. OR you can cook your own FULL meal for sell and let them purchase it form you!
FOr those current "expats" who complain about not able to survive with the local pay, well, no one pointing a gun to your head to send the application. I expect all applications are all mature adult and know the consequence.
in addition, i dont believe in loyalty, what's keeping anyone to stay in a job, say CX in this case & be honest, is their pay, benefits, seniority etc., and the consequence or the possibility to move to other airlines.
the POS of the CPP is a fast track to major and for those who can't afford the initial training of their own.
they prepared a FULL meal (all ratings ) for sell, of course you have to pay. OR you can cook your own FULL meal for sell and let them purchase it form you!
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to a certain extent, the topic brought up is just another version of the expat vs local package debate that has existed long before the International Cadet scheme came along, though i believe CX is currently coming up with certain financial benefits to try to retain these expat cadets when they have enough hours/experience to go for greener pastures.
i hardly think expats will get ripped off by joing the CPP, given the program does give you a (free) headstart to an aviation career, and you aren't forced to sign a life-time bond anyway. as for loyalty to CX... under normal circumstances, i can't see there would be any such sentiment on part of the expat ex-cadet. not unless CX suddenly becomes a warm and loving employer and pays you richly, that is.
i hardly think expats will get ripped off by joing the CPP, given the program does give you a (free) headstart to an aviation career, and you aren't forced to sign a life-time bond anyway. as for loyalty to CX... under normal circumstances, i can't see there would be any such sentiment on part of the expat ex-cadet. not unless CX suddenly becomes a warm and loving employer and pays you richly, that is.
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Yes after three years it becomes a rip off, HKG is too expensive, without housing you will soon realize, however it is free training so get in and when you have had enough leave. Current cadets are fighting for better conditions, the more cadets will result in a bigger voice and or nothing speaks louder than people leaving. So CX will have to improve the package if they want Int cadets to stay.
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i believe CX is currently coming up with certain financial benefits to try to retain these expat cadets when they have enough hours/experience to go for greener pastures.
to a certain extent, the topic brought up is just another version of the expat vs local package debate that has existed long before the International Cadet scheme came along.
Well i guess my question is...are people really all that interested or should i say long term committed in joining CX when people are getting paid less than a person that came from the same country or race as you? I know there are western cadets that have joined CX well before this international scheme, but cant say they are the same...because they hold a HKID...and im certain they hold a HKID because their parents had made HK their new home well before he/she had the interest in Aviation.
I think the reality is...once you have your hours....who is going to limit themselves to earning less than a real expat would...would you?
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And when u say expat cadets, u mean a western cadet?
Well i guess my question is...are people really all that interested or should i say long term committed in joining CX when people are getting paid less than a person that came from the same country or race as you? I know there are western cadets that have joined CX well before this international scheme, but cant say they are the same...because they hold a HKID...and im certain they hold a HKID because their parents had made HK their new home well before he/she had the interest in Aviation.
I think the reality is...once you have your hours....who is going to limit themselves to earning less than a real expat would...would you?
I think the reality is...once you have your hours....who is going to limit themselves to earning less than a real expat would...would you?
when you apply for the CXCPP, or when the decision to become a commercial pilot was made for that matter, was your aspiration to become an AIRLINE pilot, or a CATHAY pilot?
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Your question is a valid one however I am not so sure about the intention of your question.
There are many valid points being made here in this post and I am not going to reiterate it... however, knowing that a CEP (cadet entry pilot, as it is now call) only has a non-binding bond of 6 years, any CEP can leave whenever they feel that they can not reach their personal goal / target with CX. This is something that the CX management will have to work on if they indeed want to retain such CEP in the company after a few years of service. And this apply to both local and international applicants, because just to remind you, there were many so call local applicants who has overseas passport and are citizen of an overseas country as well. It just happens that they have a HKID card, so they are eligible to apply to the cadet scheme before it is opened to international applicants. So in reality, there might not be so much of a different between the local vs international group of cadets.
As suggested in this post that there have been talk about housing to CEP, but I think it is important to note that it is just talks / rumor. Is it going to happen? Nobody knows, but I will not bank on it until it actually happens. So when you are making your decision to join the cadet scheme or not, I think it is wise to make a decision based on no housing assistant to CEP.
Finally, I think you need to ask yourself the ultimate question: "Why are you doing this (when you apply to the cadet scheme)?" I think if you can answer that honestly with yourself, you will know if the cadet scheme is right for you or not.
Just my two cents.
There are many valid points being made here in this post and I am not going to reiterate it... however, knowing that a CEP (cadet entry pilot, as it is now call) only has a non-binding bond of 6 years, any CEP can leave whenever they feel that they can not reach their personal goal / target with CX. This is something that the CX management will have to work on if they indeed want to retain such CEP in the company after a few years of service. And this apply to both local and international applicants, because just to remind you, there were many so call local applicants who has overseas passport and are citizen of an overseas country as well. It just happens that they have a HKID card, so they are eligible to apply to the cadet scheme before it is opened to international applicants. So in reality, there might not be so much of a different between the local vs international group of cadets.
As suggested in this post that there have been talk about housing to CEP, but I think it is important to note that it is just talks / rumor. Is it going to happen? Nobody knows, but I will not bank on it until it actually happens. So when you are making your decision to join the cadet scheme or not, I think it is wise to make a decision based on no housing assistant to CEP.
Finally, I think you need to ask yourself the ultimate question: "Why are you doing this (when you apply to the cadet scheme)?" I think if you can answer that honestly with yourself, you will know if the cadet scheme is right for you or not.
Just my two cents.
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I agree with your post 100%. I've recently been suessful in obtaining an interview with CX for the cadet program in Brisbane. I do hold a CPL and an MECIR already yet hve been told the 60 week program will still have to be completed. So lets take a look at what were talking about here. People whom are asking about housing etc need to perhaps harden up or go and get a law degree. I don't care about housing benefits nor am I worried about salaries. To some that may sound incredibly stupid but lets stand back and take a look at whats being offered.
Training that is provided free of charge with an airline that has won the skytrax "WORLDS BEST AIRLINE" award 3 times in the last 10 years and then an oppourtunity to fly their almost brand new inter-continential heavy jet aircraft.
You have to start as a small fish in a big pond and work your arse off to become a big fish. Yes it will take time and some serious effort but thats the nature of the beast. I fly because I love it not because of salaries or benefits involved. If you cant make ends meet on an S/O salary, either earn more ie second job, or spend less ie smaller or shared living costs. I personally would do anything I need to do to be that small fish.
I agree with your post 100%. I've recently been suessful in obtaining an interview with CX for the cadet program in Brisbane. I do hold a CPL and an MECIR already yet hve been told the 60 week program will still have to be completed. So lets take a look at what were talking about here. People whom are asking about housing etc need to perhaps harden up or go and get a law degree. I don't care about housing benefits nor am I worried about salaries. To some that may sound incredibly stupid but lets stand back and take a look at whats being offered.
Training that is provided free of charge with an airline that has won the skytrax "WORLDS BEST AIRLINE" award 3 times in the last 10 years and then an oppourtunity to fly their almost brand new inter-continential heavy jet aircraft.
You have to start as a small fish in a big pond and work your arse off to become a big fish. Yes it will take time and some serious effort but thats the nature of the beast. I fly because I love it not because of salaries or benefits involved. If you cant make ends meet on an S/O salary, either earn more ie second job, or spend less ie smaller or shared living costs. I personally would do anything I need to do to be that small fish.
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'nuff said! though i'm sure EPASZ would like to know if you are willing to stay in CX when you are a big fish...
in my case the CEP salary package that CX provides is more than enough for me to make a living on, even when i have a wife, kids, and retired parents. the salary may not be equal to that of direct-entry pilots, and this is unfair in its own way. but no doubt, you wouldn't need to live in a cardboard box with your salary, especially when you look around you and see so many locals in other walks of life, living on half a CX pilot's salary and still getting by. i don't see why we can't... it is merely a matter of lifestyle and whether you are willing to adjust or not.
for me personally, achieving a dream is priceless. but when you know you can live reasonably well with your pay check, then it just makes you even hungrier to realize that aspiration. and yes, EPASZ, my chance of staying in CX after making F/O or above is pretty high, being a street-raised HKG local.
'nuff said!
though i'm sure EPASZ would like to know if you are willing to stay in CX when you are a big fish...in my case the CEP salary package that CX provides is more than enough for me to make a living on, even when i have a wife, kids, and retired parents. the salary may not be equal to that of direct-entry pilots, and this is unfair in its own way. but no doubt, you wouldn't need to live in a cardboard box with your salary, especially when you look around you and see so many locals in other walks of life, living on half a CX pilot's salary and still getting by. i don't see why we can't... it is merely a matter of lifestyle and whether you are willing to adjust or not.
for me personally, achieving a dream is priceless. but when you know you can live reasonably well with your pay check, then it just makes you even hungrier to realize that aspiration. and yes, EPASZ, my chance of staying in CX after making F/O or above is pretty high, being a street-raised HKG local.
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Food for thought for those who think it is a raw deal:
By joining the CPP you are effectively bypassing the initial 5 years plus of GA/regional carrier time. This adds five years onto your career in a major. You have to realise that these extra five years will be on a senior captain salary. Have a look at the pay scales and you figure out if it is worth it.
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Epasz,
Your thread intrigues me.
My first assumption was here is a failed CX applicant, DEFO/DESO/CPP Cadet or otherwise who is rambling on to make himself feel better that he got rejected. However I will bite! If only to put my views across becasue your post makes it look like we are idiots who haven't been reading the small print.
Flying is a dream. No one does it for the money. The time, effort and traning initially and throughout the career could get you far more money working as a doctor, lawyer etc.
Because flying is a dream and not a job, the rewards are merely a bonus. This is why many a prospective pilot will spend upto £90K of his parents hard earned cash for a fATPL just so that he/she (if lucky enough) can fly in West Africa building hours, OR if they have some spare change lying around, will pay Mr O'leary £30K to fly 737s for him.
These are the choices open to me in the UK.
That is what pilots do my friend. And for many hundreds of thousands of pilots out there, the majority of them will never reach an international carrier-let alone a top three airline (Cathay, Emirates, Singapore).
How the hell can you come here and write that CX is "ripping you off". CX will pay for your fATPL (Worth more than £100k if paid for in the UK) and then a TR on a 773ER/744/A340 worth an extra £45K+. OH, and 90% schooling allowance. Promotion to JFO almost doubles your salary by the way.
But yeah, you're right mate. I'll reject this. I'll stay in England and pay for it all myself. Then consider myself lucky enough if I found £30K lying around to go to Ryanair.
Espaz, your thread is pointless. Do you seriously think that there is any international wannabe pilot out there that would not apply for this scheme on the basis that he/she will not get a housing allowance-and hence pay for it him/her self?
For an international wanabee (who obviously can't apply to Singapore, Emirates cadet schemes due to nationality), CPP is by far the best scheme out there. It is pure Gold.
I have a question for you Espaz and unlike your "question", mine is pretty clear:
What was the point of your thread?
Your thread intrigues me.
My first assumption was here is a failed CX applicant, DEFO/DESO/CPP Cadet or otherwise who is rambling on to make himself feel better that he got rejected. However I will bite! If only to put my views across becasue your post makes it look like we are idiots who haven't been reading the small print.
Flying is a dream. No one does it for the money. The time, effort and traning initially and throughout the career could get you far more money working as a doctor, lawyer etc.
Because flying is a dream and not a job, the rewards are merely a bonus. This is why many a prospective pilot will spend upto £90K of his parents hard earned cash for a fATPL just so that he/she (if lucky enough) can fly in West Africa building hours, OR if they have some spare change lying around, will pay Mr O'leary £30K to fly 737s for him.
These are the choices open to me in the UK.
That is what pilots do my friend. And for many hundreds of thousands of pilots out there, the majority of them will never reach an international carrier-let alone a top three airline (Cathay, Emirates, Singapore).
How the hell can you come here and write that CX is "ripping you off". CX will pay for your fATPL (Worth more than £100k if paid for in the UK) and then a TR on a 773ER/744/A340 worth an extra £45K+. OH, and 90% schooling allowance. Promotion to JFO almost doubles your salary by the way.
But yeah, you're right mate. I'll reject this. I'll stay in England and pay for it all myself. Then consider myself lucky enough if I found £30K lying around to go to Ryanair.
Espaz, your thread is pointless. Do you seriously think that there is any international wannabe pilot out there that would not apply for this scheme on the basis that he/she will not get a housing allowance-and hence pay for it him/her self?
For an international wanabee (who obviously can't apply to Singapore, Emirates cadet schemes due to nationality), CPP is by far the best scheme out there. It is pure Gold.
I have a question for you Espaz and unlike your "question", mine is pretty clear:
What was the point of your thread?
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What was the point of your thread?
Im sure after a few years in CX you won't feel bad about the DESO (being at lower rank, working in the same company, and perhaps working away from home as well)next to you earning the same amount as you when you are a JFO , because you have to thank CX for letting you achieve your dream n skip all those tough road.
There are no idiots out there applying for CX....like u said...its all about achieving a dream that's all.
The scheme is gold like you said. Because it is first of its kind...N I could only say, great move for CX to have introduce this scheme to international candidates during this finanical crisis to help save billions of allowances in the future.
Triplespool123,
If your dream for a career is to make the bunks and sit in the jumpseat for the next 5+ years, then I'd hate to see your nightmares.
The majority of us do it for the money. We're just lucky we enjoy our job.
You seem to have the idea the only way to progress in aviation is to pay your way into jobs, or take substandard deals without thinking long term for your career. Have you heard of hard work. What about starting small and working your way up through the industry, or do you have to start on a widebody jet as anything else would be below your standards.
Why don't you go down to West Africa and get some experience. Then you can tell us how your dream is progressing.
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If your dream for a career is to make the bunks and sit in the jumpseat for the next 5+ years, then I'd hate to see your nightmares.
Flying is a dream. No one does it for the money.
You seem to have the idea the only way to progress in aviation is to pay your way into jobs, or take substandard deals without thinking long term for your career. Have you heard of hard work. What about starting small and working your way up through the industry, or do you have to start on a widebody jet as anything else would be below your standards.
Why don't you go down to West Africa and get some experience. Then you can tell us how your dream is progressing.
FCG
I am concerned some here may not have done their due diligence in actually determining the real cost of living in Hong Kong. Remember that this is one of the most expensive cities in the world to live and the standard of accommodation isn’t what you are use to in the west. A family of four in a gross 1000 ft² apartment, 870 ft² net, when you have probably been use to 4x this space can make or break a family. Remember you get to get away three times a month but your wife is trapped here in cramped living conditions with the kids. If you are single it may be just doable if you live like a hermit but if you are married with children then this is a serious issue. Remember your first year salary is only HK$33179.00 per/month.
Cathay will make back in four years your training cost by not paying you an accommodation allowance. You unfortunately will be paying for it though for the rest of your CX career.
Current upgrades are blowing out considerably.
SO → JFO = 5 years
JFO → FO = 1 year
FO → Capt = 10 years
To be able to get a permanent base you have to be a minimum rank of FO so it will take you at least 6 years, assuming a base is available to go on one. Currently almost all bases are full from DEFO recruitment.
Lastly cadets here are trying their utmost to improve their conditions of service. The rest of us including DESO’s DEFO’s etc are struggling just to keep what we have. If you come here with the attitude some seem to have here that money isn’t important you won’t win any friends.
Summary: Realistic Monthly Table of Expenses for a family of four.
HK$ (/mth).....
Tax 5,700
Rent 16,000 (minimum 3 bedroom 1000 ft²)
Utils 4,700
Public Trans 1,000
Food 13,000
Misc 4,500
Total 44,900
HK$ (/mth).....
Tax 5,700
Rent 16,000 (minimum 3 bedroom 1000 ft²)
Utils 4,700
Public Trans 1,000
Food 13,000
Misc 4,500
Total 44,900
Current upgrades are blowing out considerably.
SO → JFO = 5 years
JFO → FO = 1 year
FO → Capt = 10 years
To be able to get a permanent base you have to be a minimum rank of FO so it will take you at least 6 years, assuming a base is available to go on one. Currently almost all bases are full from DEFO recruitment.
Lastly cadets here are trying their utmost to improve their conditions of service. The rest of us including DESO’s DEFO’s etc are struggling just to keep what we have. If you come here with the attitude some seem to have here that money isn’t important you won’t win any friends.
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404 Titan,
thank you for your insight. the picture you have painted is that the entry-level salary package cannot possibly feed an expatriate family of 4, who are new to HKG. this is very true and i can only say that CX's LEP salary was set by assuming that the LEPs would live with their parents for a long long time!
but would this change if one were to keep the family at home for the first couple of years, and then bring them later when your salary package will have increased dramatically?
thank you for your insight. the picture you have painted is that the entry-level salary package cannot possibly feed an expatriate family of 4, who are new to HKG. this is very true and i can only say that CX's LEP salary was set by assuming that the LEPs would live with their parents for a long long time!
but would this change if one were to keep the family at home for the first couple of years, and then bring them later when your salary package will have increased dramatically?
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Possible but by having your family live in Australia you are now potentially exposing yourself to Australian tax. If you then combine this with commuting costs of about HK5000.00 per month you will be worse of, i.e. two houses etc etc etc.
Possible but by having your family live in Australia you are now potentially exposing yourself to Australian tax. If you then combine this with commuting costs of about HK5000.00 per month you will be worse of, i.e. two houses etc etc etc.
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I don’t have the time to do a proper reply now to your post but suffice to say what allowances are you talking about? If it is overnight allowances then you are dreaming. It is very rare that I come home with more than 20% of my allowances. Some places it isn’t enough at all. If you want to be anti-social sure and squirrel them away fine but life is going to be pretty boring, no friends and all.
As for the girls. You might think you are cool but let me fill you in. Most here will think you are a tool. It’s a shame you will have so many days off but with no spare cash dude you won’t be able to doing anything on them.
If you don’t believe me speak to some of the Hong Kong Airlines pilots to see what it is like to live in HK on a low salary.
I don’t have the time to do a proper reply now to your post but suffice to say what allowances are you talking about? If it is overnight allowances then you are dreaming. It is very rare that I come home with more than 20% of my allowances. Some places it isn’t enough at all. If you want to be anti-social sure and squirrel them away fine but life is going to be pretty boring, no friends and all.
As for the girls. You might think you are cool but let me fill you in. Most here will think you are a tool. It’s a shame you will have so many days off but with no spare cash dude you won’t be able to doing anything on them.
If you don’t believe me speak to some of the Hong Kong Airlines pilots to see what it is like to live in HK on a low salary.
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Dear Epasz, 404 Titan, and Forward COG,
Thank you for your time in writing your posts because you guys have swayed me completely. Thank you.
You are right, I can not live in a shoebox, breathing in polution and living with 7million people on your doorstep whilst paying 50%+ of your salary for the privelige. I'm a pompous white westerner you see and hold myself classes above my asian friends. From what you are saying, I won't have enough money left over to pay for a couple of filipino maids to wipe my backside and cook my food
Also,the big shiney jets have never really appealed to me - at least not initialy. Botswana looks good though flying turbo-props on a few thousand a year. Hopefully I will be lucky enough to get that job (in this current climate) having already got my parents to re-mortgage their house to the tune of £80K.
Having built a few thousand hours in West Africa and being apart form my family for a few years, I should be able to get a job flying with the Worlds Favourite Airline - British Airways. I believe Skytrax were going to put BA as the No.1 airline for the last 5 years running but due to politics and our foreign police synergies with the USA, it would not have looked so good for Skytrax to do so.
If I can't get into BA, then I'll dig around for a bit to find 30K to fly for Ryanair - hopefully I have some left over to pay for my uniform, and 6 months accomodation during line training.
Guys, thanks very much. I'm going to call CX HR department now to withdraw my application. Who needs £150K worth of traning when I can pay for it all myself?
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Thank you for your time in writing your posts because you guys have swayed me completely. Thank you.
You are right, I can not live in a shoebox, breathing in polution and living with 7million people on your doorstep whilst paying 50%+ of your salary for the privelige. I'm a pompous white westerner you see and hold myself classes above my asian friends. From what you are saying, I won't have enough money left over to pay for a couple of filipino maids to wipe my backside and cook my food
Also,the big shiney jets have never really appealed to me - at least not initialy. Botswana looks good though flying turbo-props on a few thousand a year. Hopefully I will be lucky enough to get that job (in this current climate) having already got my parents to re-mortgage their house to the tune of £80K.
Having built a few thousand hours in West Africa and being apart form my family for a few years, I should be able to get a job flying with the Worlds Favourite Airline - British Airways. I believe Skytrax were going to put BA as the No.1 airline for the last 5 years running but due to politics and our foreign police synergies with the USA, it would not have looked so good for Skytrax to do so.
If I can't get into BA, then I'll dig around for a bit to find 30K to fly for Ryanair - hopefully I have some left over to pay for my uniform, and 6 months accomodation during line training.
Guys, thanks very much. I'm going to call CX HR department now to withdraw my application. Who needs £150K worth of traning when I can pay for it all myself?
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Triplespool123, You are an idiot.
Don't worry about withdrawing your application I'm quite confident you'll get weeded out in the first interview.
I won't bother giving you any advice, as some of the other informed and experienced PPRuNe posters have because you seem to know it all about Hong Kong and Cathay Pacific..
Cronus
Don't worry about withdrawing your application I'm quite confident you'll get weeded out in the first interview.
I won't bother giving you any advice, as some of the other informed and experienced PPRuNe posters have because you seem to know it all about Hong Kong and Cathay Pacific..
Cronus