For International Cadets.

[vaibhav]

hey

with all due respect mr titan .

my parents passed away when I was 17 since then I have been fending for myself work fulltime and fly as much as I can . I agree I need to learn a lot more , but I hope to do that when I am a P2X with CX .

well ... "in aviation if you stop learning even at the age of 60 , you will kill yourself or end up killing others " my mentor told me that .. sounds quite right ...

thanks mr titan ..

vaibhav

[404 Titan]

vaibhav

I am sorry about your parents. That isn’t an easy thing to deal with when you are only 17. All I can say is I hope you were able to stay in the family home and your parents had insurance policies in place to help you out?

My original point though was that you won’t be able to live on AU$500.00 a month in HK. Not even close. You then mention “and kids, will cross that bridge when we come to it”. With all due respect when you come to it, it will be too late. You need to think about it now.

[vaibhav]

hey mr titan

I think we started on a wrong foot here .. I just applied for my cadetship like 2 days ago and have not done enough research I have never visited hongkong the closest I have been to hongkong was in transit HKIA . I am a person who is of simple needs i dont consume alcohol and i dont smoke aswell I cook my own meals and dont eat outside . maybe I go to the cinemas once a month . all i watch is TV and spend time on the internet to entertain myself .. well not to derail from the topic ..

just an assumption what would be the cheapest appartment to find in hongkong and with my given lifestlye how much would you spend per month ..

cheers .. need to rush for a meeting i have a lot to ask you

can I PM you ..

thanks

vaibhav

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vaibhav

can I PM you ..

Of course you can.

[betpump5]

As we know, there is no bond in HK as it is not legal. Therefore these kids with big ideas can just run-off when they start to see the reality of what the more experienced guys are saying. Regardless if they still havent unfrozen their license after 3-4 years?

So why shouldn't they grab the free training if its on offer and they get through? Makes perfect sense to me. I wish I had that break 10 years ago.

sirhcttarp/titan - getting a foot in the warehouse door is the hardest part of the industry. We all know that. So whilst there is an opening that doesn't charge an entrance fee (I see an innuendo coming), you will never put these kids off. I came into the industry with very little trouble. In this day and age, I honestly would have taken this route.

I will agree with one thing though- My housing allowance as a DEFO makes it all worth it.

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betpump5

So whilst there is an opening that doesn't charge an entrance fee (I see an innuendo coming), you will never put these kids off.

I think my point is that while there isn’t an entrance fee, once you are in the rides are expensive. In other words a park with an entrance fee but free rides in the long run is cheaper.

I came into the industry with very little trouble. In this day and age, I honestly would have taken this route.

I think you will find in post #36 I said the same thing.

If I had the opportunity to do a similar course in 1986 when I learnt to fly I would have jumped at it.

I then went on to say though:

I would have taken on board though advice from people that work here in formulating what I would do to make ends meat in HK.

[betpump5]

In other words a park with an entrance fee but free rides in the long run is cheaper.

With the benefit of Hindsight.

For the past 10 years, I have enjoyed the rewards of paying for it all myself after my A-levels in the UK. ( I tell a lie- dad ex-Dan Air cap paid for it inc TR on a 73-classic back in 2000).

This led to a job flying the 732s in Philippines and onto a 742F job before I was 22. DEFO CX 4 years later, allowances and the rest. (I could not live happily in HK without the allowance I will add).

However hand on heart if me (my dad sorry) was offered the CPP, I think he would have wanted me to take that route instead of spending his pitiful savings from a career that saw him made redundant three times!

Taking an impartial view as an outsider, I do see Triple's and the other kids' point that this, maybe,was not the best place for the thread-starter to write such a post initially-it really did read like a "blog" as someone put rather than some kind words of advice (or the offering of advice via the forum or via PM).

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betpump5

Thanks for your input. While I will agree the thread starter may have been able to word his post better, the thread has since developed into one of information for wannabe cadets. I personally have had 33 pm’s from hopefuls asking questions. If the original thread starter posted it elsewhere the audience and my pm’s probably wouldn’t have been anywhere near what they have been. So in my opinion the thread is in the right area, “Fragrant Harbour Wannabes” because this is where wannabes come for information.

PS: It is interesting that the two most vocal opponents of this thread haven’t asked me a single question via PM. Says something really doesn’t it or maybe they just know everything they want to know. I suspect it's the latter.

[PPRuNeUser0163]

Speaking of Pms Titan.. I sent you one-

you get it?

cheers

[404 Titan]

nkand

Yes I did. Thank you.

[404 Titan]

nkand

Check your pm's. I have replied to your question.

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[clinty83]

Hi all

Haven't been on this thread in a while but its interesting to see some threads since i've been gone.

One thing has got me a little riled up. Mr Triplespool can I ask do you have any training/licenses/experience to your name??

[Triplespool123]

An insignificant handful of hours.

[clinty83]

Hmmm, a wee bit of a sheepish answer. Put a figure on it please.

[Triplespool123]

10 ish or so - exactly what was sheepish about my previous answer?

[clinty83]

Because you speak as though you know it all

Boys and Girls CASE CLOSED.

[Triplespool123]

If you are referring to my reply to you, I just ventured guesses as to why you may have been unsuccesful in your application past stage 1. I wouldn't even think that what I wrote was criticism but if it was, then I would think it was constructive.

Anyway, as you found out, hours mean very little in this type of scheme as the "20 hours" guy did make it past Stage 1.

[Triplespool123]

The "not one minute to my name" was simply making a point against one of the posts - I think the post questioning why "no one has thought about the fact they wont own 10 properties as an FO".

My obvious point was saying that for most people here, with an amount of hours that is not even close to the standard 250hrs fATPL, they are not going to be thinking that far ahead with regards to a property portfolio - hence why "this issue wasn't raised".

0 hours or 10 hours is an insignificant handful of hours compared to Clinty's 300.

[404 Titan]

Triplespool123

And I can quite categorically say that clinty83’s failure to get past stage one had nothing to do with his 300 hours. He would never have been invited to stage one if it was. Failure to get through stage one is 100% related to your performance in the interview and nothing else.

[Triplespool123]

Erm... isn't that what I have been saying in every single post in reply to his matter?

at least we have finally agreed on something 404