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The fact is that the proposed package has a clause in it that may introduce the 10.9 hour shift - see 44.3.1 (b). That shift pattern is specifically designed to have you work an extended roster without an RDO. All well and good if as you say you work 0700 to 1500 with 38hr/wk. But it wont be the case. I would bet my left one that there will be an extended roster introduced in the near future (namely a 10.9 : 4 on/4 off) and you can kiss your RDO's goodbye.
On a lighter note, could someone please clarify this for me:
22.2.3 The average shift penalty will not be paid for sick leave, workers compensation, long service leave and overtime or for any other purpose other than the calculation of ordinary time earnings.
I thought that if we were on workers compensation we still get shift penalties?
The fact is that the proposed package has a clause in it that may introduce the 10.9 hour shift - see 44.3.1 (b). That shift pattern is specifically designed to have you work an extended roster without an RDO. All well and good if as you say you work 0700 to 1500 with 38hr/wk. But it wont be the case. I would bet my left one that there will be an extended roster introduced in the near future (namely a 10.9 : 4 on/4 off) and you can kiss your RDO's goodbye.
On a lighter note, could someone please clarify this for me:
22.2.3 The average shift penalty will not be paid for sick leave, workers compensation, long service leave and overtime or for any other purpose other than the calculation of ordinary time earnings.
I thought that if we were on workers compensation we still get shift penalties?
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ernie and kerrop[who looked great at dateman's planting] are still around but the others are in heaven's bay three at the back of the store enjoying a cool one or two looking down on all the sh%t going on here ahhhh thoes were the days
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No....
After full and due consideration I will be voting "NO" for the EBA.
Firstly, EVERYONE didn't get 5%, and was not the whole aim, for all of us to get no less then 5% ?
To add insult to injury, I believe it is mischievous to add in any increase in out pay as a result of Salary Sacrificing Superannuation.
Salary Sacrificing your superannuation gives rise to two issues that are not Qantas' problem, you will become liable for contributions tax (15%) and also you may need to pay tax on withdrawal, depending on your circumstances.
It seems foolhardy to me for Qantas to call this a pay rise when it exposes you to two additional taxes.
Also, as much as I disagree with the 3%, I cannot believe that for one of the periods the association agreed to a 1.5% increase when we got the level.
So, in effect WE DID NOT GET A FULL LEVEL, 1.5% OF YOUR PAY WENT TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN PAY RISE.
Nice try exec, not too bad a deal, but just not quite there.
SpannerTwister
Firstly, EVERYONE didn't get 5%, and was not the whole aim, for all of us to get no less then 5% ?
To add insult to injury, I believe it is mischievous to add in any increase in out pay as a result of Salary Sacrificing Superannuation.
Salary Sacrificing your superannuation gives rise to two issues that are not Qantas' problem, you will become liable for contributions tax (15%) and also you may need to pay tax on withdrawal, depending on your circumstances.
It seems foolhardy to me for Qantas to call this a pay rise when it exposes you to two additional taxes.
Also, as much as I disagree with the 3%, I cannot believe that for one of the periods the association agreed to a 1.5% increase when we got the level.
So, in effect WE DID NOT GET A FULL LEVEL, 1.5% OF YOUR PAY WENT TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN PAY RISE.
Nice try exec, not too bad a deal, but just not quite there.
SpannerTwister
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it's about time
Qantas decides against servicing 737s in Malaysia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Qantas decides against servicing 737s in Malaysia
Posted 46 minutes ago
Updated 41 minutes ago
Qantas says both planes will now be serviced in Australia. (AAP: Mick Tsikas, file photo) Qantas has decided against sending two of its 737 planes to Malaysia for heavy maintenance work.
Qantas decides against servicing 737s in Malaysia
Posted 46 minutes ago
Updated 41 minutes ago
Qantas says both planes will now be serviced in Australia. (AAP: Mick Tsikas, file photo) Qantas has decided against sending two of its 737 planes to Malaysia for heavy maintenance work.
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Qantas has decided against sending two of its 737 planes to Malaysia for heavy maintenance work
Don't forget that Joint Venture with MAS, trumpeted by none other than GD and DC. That is, long term outsourcing.
On another note - it's nice to see that a 'Qantas spokeswoman' is keeping DC out of the media limelight.
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"Qantas has decided against sending two of its 737 planes to Malaysia for heavy maintenance work."
I find that statement quite humurous because the first one (TJK) has been in Tullamarine for over two weeks and is due out in about a week, and the second one (TJJ) has been on the plan for about a month.
More lies from DC and his henchmen.
It's time for DC to fall on his sword.
I find that statement quite humurous because the first one (TJK) has been in Tullamarine for over two weeks and is due out in about a week, and the second one (TJJ) has been on the plan for about a month.
More lies from DC and his henchmen.
It's time for DC to fall on his sword.
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Yep, those were the days........
When your manager was an engineer! Aircraft used to go on time. A delay or a missed arrival was a black mark against your name.
Now you sit watching aircraft sitting off bay while you try to get to another section at the airport to report for duty !
Fuggin idiots !
When your manager was an engineer! Aircraft used to go on time. A delay or a missed arrival was a black mark against your name.
Now you sit watching aircraft sitting off bay while you try to get to another section at the airport to report for duty !
Fuggin idiots !
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Mike one - Tango Base
Gee you blokes are game putting the "e" in Gus Whisky, I used to put it on the workload with the "e" and it guaranteed a hot phone call every time, I loved it.
Ahh bay 3 or Wally Boyd's bay 6, Lewin, Throbber, Charlie Micallef, Splat, Crilley, Robbo, Dags, Bullock, Bilko, Herman and Darby plus many many more great characters......
Very good value in those day's.
Ahh bay 3 or Wally Boyd's bay 6, Lewin, Throbber, Charlie Micallef, Splat, Crilley, Robbo, Dags, Bullock, Bilko, Herman and Darby plus many many more great characters......
Very good value in those day's.
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The Old Legends
The good old days! Yep, got to a big reminder of it at The Dateman's farewell. Great to see Kerop, Wilko, etc looking fresh as!
Pretty sure I saw the work of the Phantom Pisser as well at the wake. I think the Phantom Nudist must have been out of the country. Very unusual for him to miss a gathering like that. I know The Dateman sighted the Nudist down in Melbourne a few years ago. I think Dateman may have even know the Phantom Nudist's identity! Good old Dateman. I miss him a lot. A true legend.
Dateman brought us all together that day and made us realise that we are a family. Dateman may have passed away, but he really is still here with us. It is his spirit that makes us what we are. Forget the dopes we have to put up with and keep his spirit in your soul and all will be good. Do what we are best at and still manage to have laugh with your mates. We really are blessed with our mateships that we have. That's something a lot of people don't have and I really think we are lucky to have that. I know when I am on the job the boy's are watching my back and are ready to do whatever it takes to get the job right.
Wilko reckoned he missed the place. One of the young blokes told him not to even think about coming back because he would end up punching managers in the head! Funny, I laughed my head off! Could you imagine some of those guys who ARE the foundations of our industry putting up with these tuggers! Mate, it would be a war!! Be pretty funny watching the old guys messing with their heads. I would pay to watch new school management vs Wilko in a face to face meeting trying to push their crap down his throat. Gold. Imagine Kerop at work on Donut Boy! Ha! That would be funny to watch!! Hey Boy!!!!!!
Pretty sure I saw the work of the Phantom Pisser as well at the wake. I think the Phantom Nudist must have been out of the country. Very unusual for him to miss a gathering like that. I know The Dateman sighted the Nudist down in Melbourne a few years ago. I think Dateman may have even know the Phantom Nudist's identity! Good old Dateman. I miss him a lot. A true legend.
Dateman brought us all together that day and made us realise that we are a family. Dateman may have passed away, but he really is still here with us. It is his spirit that makes us what we are. Forget the dopes we have to put up with and keep his spirit in your soul and all will be good. Do what we are best at and still manage to have laugh with your mates. We really are blessed with our mateships that we have. That's something a lot of people don't have and I really think we are lucky to have that. I know when I am on the job the boy's are watching my back and are ready to do whatever it takes to get the job right.
Wilko reckoned he missed the place. One of the young blokes told him not to even think about coming back because he would end up punching managers in the head! Funny, I laughed my head off! Could you imagine some of those guys who ARE the foundations of our industry putting up with these tuggers! Mate, it would be a war!! Be pretty funny watching the old guys messing with their heads. I would pay to watch new school management vs Wilko in a face to face meeting trying to push their crap down his throat. Gold. Imagine Kerop at work on Donut Boy! Ha! That would be funny to watch!! Hey Boy!!!!!!
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Ending the hiring freeze would mean having someone at the helm with some balls and some foresight. I don't think anyone at the front has either.
When is Muzza and his band of dysfunctional merrymen going to be shown the door for his excellent management style. If the board can gag Geoff ******** surely they can axe muzza and co.
When is Muzza and his band of dysfunctional merrymen going to be shown the door for his excellent management style. If the board can gag Geoff ******** surely they can axe muzza and co.
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SIT Lames,Ames sent back to base maintenance
I'm not too keen about being sent back to base maintenance.
Feedback from Leading Hands meetings with Managers indicate about 40 people to go back permanently,not sure if thats total , or off pillars 1 & 2,
3 & 4.
I wouldn't mind working there under the current 10.9 hour roster as it stands at the moment.1 excess crew on the day swing shift going to base.I thought that was what the Sydney Precinct thing was about.
According to Mr DM Krispy Kremes Syd SIT and SDT are merged together.
I haven't seen too much cooperation on manpower.
I guess they haven't ordered the new mike buses yet.
I guess we'll have to want till after the eba8 vote to see what will happen and whether management decide to keep any customer contracts.
Any thoughts from other concerned ACS SIO lames,ames
Feedback from Leading Hands meetings with Managers indicate about 40 people to go back permanently,not sure if thats total , or off pillars 1 & 2,
3 & 4.
I wouldn't mind working there under the current 10.9 hour roster as it stands at the moment.1 excess crew on the day swing shift going to base.I thought that was what the Sydney Precinct thing was about.
According to Mr DM Krispy Kremes Syd SIT and SDT are merged together.
I haven't seen too much cooperation on manpower.
I guess they haven't ordered the new mike buses yet.
I guess we'll have to want till after the eba8 vote to see what will happen and whether management decide to keep any customer contracts.
Any thoughts from other concerned ACS SIO lames,ames
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back to base
Well if they are going to take 40 people back to base the first people that should go back is the people who came over when heavy shut down a few years ago, then it should go on when you came to the SIT, most recent people go back. Also the people seconded there at the moment to go back to where they are from to. Which leading hands meetings were these?? Base meetings??
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Yes I agree with you.
These meetings were held at DMM's office SIT, early morning a few days ago.
Maybe it will come down to license coverage or who the favorite boys are.
These meetings were held at DMM's office SIT, early morning a few days ago.
Maybe it will come down to license coverage or who the favorite boys are.
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Who cares where they work at QE ??
If your'e happy youl'l be productive, if not you'll give the bare minimum.
Try and force a guy to work in an area, on a roster he's not happy with.Better to give him a package.........
If your'e happy youl'l be productive, if not you'll give the bare minimum.
Try and force a guy to work in an area, on a roster he's not happy with.Better to give him a package.........