Merged: QANTAS/ALAEA EBA

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

The requirement for training to progress moves up one grade along with quota brackets etc...

[STRIKEBREAKERBRAKA]

Yes hardnut i agree,but i think the majority will give it the thumbs up.Well done everyone involved.

[1746]

Clarification

Sp and the Team!!!!

Well Done

Notice says "plus a level for every LAME" and that means exactly that doesn't it?

[Syd eng]

Pretty good outcome for me, will see me move up 2 grades in pretty quick time. Another yes vote here.

[domo]

4.5% pay rise + a grade rise = over 10% divided by 2 = over 5%
and the 3% rise in 5 months time comes at the higher grade

WELL DONE GUYS every lame gets a grade jump, better than I hoped for

[Stagger Lee]

Well I have just studied the document and barring any hidden glitches or misinterpretation from the fat lady or GD (the qantas brand destroyer) it will get my vote .... with a big thank you card for the fed executive and his bunch of merry men

[CTMike]

The greatest result (besides the money)is that we have shown our resolve.They expected us to divide and crumble but we stuck together and won.3% on face value who cares we know that we got our five.

[Sunfish]

And everyone lived happily ever after.

....Except for those who scabbed while you were on PIA.


Congratulations to your Executive and to all of you for having the intelligence and guts to stay united and stick to your guns.

It's now obvious that QF have cut way too deep in their engineering workforce, but the Board and DC probably still believe the Boeing/Airbus sales talk about reduced maintenance requirements - I'm sure their will be savings in manpower requirements....which will be partially offset by other requirements nobody saw coming.

[Syd eng]

over 11 was my calculation too, I will see 2 grades over the term of the agreement.

[ballhopper]

my package has increased over 10%
the missus will be pleased

[Lean Sigma]

Useing raw figures

2007- 3%
2008- 1.5% plus a level.(level worth approx 4%)= 5.5%
2009- 3%
2010- 3%

Makes a total of 3% + 5.5% + 3% + 3% = 14.5%

14.5% / 4 years = 3.625 % per annum

This is reality and the devil in the detail.

[jack diamond]

bh

also the taxman will be pleased

[chockchucker]

Fed Sec,

my compliments to you and the negotiating team on a job well done. I think the vast majority will do as well as could hoped for out of the deal (realistically at least).

If I have one small gripe, it would be the staff travel priority point (J14 for LAME's with 10 years service). Trivial perhaps but, a LAME is a LAME. Not sure why we had to discriminate between those who have 10 years service and those that don't. I think that the achievement of qualifying as a LAME deserves the same priority as one's colleages (years of service not withstanding).


Apart from that one small gripe. Well done. I just hope Qantas doesn't try to screw us over in the final document. Personally, I'll be looking forward to getting on with business.


Thanks again to you and all the negotiating team for your hard work. Bet you're looking forward to EBA 9

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

Useing raw figures

2007- 3%
2008- 1.5% plus a level.(level worth approx 4%)= 5.5%
2009- 3%
2010- 3%

Makes a total of 3% + 5.5% + 3% + 3% = 14.5%

14.5% / 4 years = 3.625 % per annum

This is reality and the devil in the detail.

The data you feed in needs to be correct to calculate your outcomes. A level is 4.3% for lvl 13 to 7.5% for a level 3. The $77 between each grade is going to be adjusted so the figure combined over the four years is never less than 16% or 4%pa. Super savings go on top then the additional level for those currently waitlisted, ready for lvl 15 or entering L10 during life of agreement.

[stuntcock]

EBA 8 Outcome

I'd like to say job well done to the FED SEC for the negotiations with QF EBA Post PIA Offer.Good to see no negative feedback yet regarding this deal.

Personally for me this represents a great outcome considering global
aviation conditions at the moment.

I guess there will be some people that aren't happy with this deal,but I don't think pushing any further will achieve anything.

Put it to the vote I'm sure it will get up .

Don't tell your wife about the backpay

[woollcott]

I hope everybody has read the preamble in the notice, instead of just going to the dollars. It gives credit to the exec, and explains the likely outcomes of continuing the action and/or 48hr stoppages. It seems the exec walked a very fine line, and did it to perfection. Congratulations for a job well done.

I would have liked to see an additional item.
I would like an apology concerning their slander of us. If not, at the very least a statement from GD or DC as to the worth of engineers to the company.

Mind you, I wont be holding my breath........................

[Ngineer]

to the ALAEA exec and your legal team.

Your first go at negotiating an EBA has been very impressive indeed. You have all carried this out with a very high degree of professionalism, caution, insight and integrity. I am a proud LAME once more and you have again won my vote.

You should all be congratulated for your hard work.

[carltonjudd]

all that for so little. next time just take the first offer. if this is the best we can do we all all in trouble.

[Bolty McBolt]

Hi to all

With this kind of result...Who needs over time !!!!!

[QF94]

4.5% pay rise + a grade rise = over 10% divided by 2 = over 5%
and the 3% rise in 5 months time comes at the higher grade

If only QF employed smart enough managers to see this in the first place. Unfortunately, we have a bunch of academics (not very good ones at that) making hard-ball decisions that cost the company not only hundreds of millions of dollars in delays, but in its reputation. This is going to take many years to fix.

QANTAS is a very good company and the people in it are also good, but is run by ill-fated half wits!

At least there is now some closure and we can all get on with what we are employed to do. That is to get the aircraft backlog cleared and get on with our job.

Hopefully there won't be the old standover tactics from our so-called managers ensuring we're doing our job, although I don't think they'll show their faces around in too much of a hurry.

Good job FedSec. Well done to all for digging in and waiting out the management.