Merged: QANTAS/ALAEA EBA

[SpannerTwister]

Originally Posted by SpannerTwister

After full and due consideration I will be voting "NO" for the EBA.

So..How is everyone else voting ?


SpannerTwister

[stuntcock]

eba8 vote

Yes

I didn't get the full 5% either

Are you on a high level spannertwister ?
If you are you'll get more than someone on a lower level
getting 5%

I don't like your chances of the no vote getting up.
Enjoy the backpay

[SpannerTwister]

Originally Posted by stuntcock

Yes
:
:
I don't like your chances of the no vote getting up.
Enjoy the backpay

Yes, I'm in a "higher level", but to me it's not about the number of $$'s that I'll get, We went into this with a "5% for all, Take no prisoners" mentality.

It seems to me that we've failed in this endeavour .............

On the bright side, Hopefully we've got a new attitude, with solidarity and a spine like we've never had before !!

I agree, I too think the "Yes" vote will get up, and I'll certainly enjoy the backpay !!

I guess for me, it's a win-win situation, I get a (semi) decent pay-rise, a fist-full of $$'s back-pay, and the warm feeling inside that I stuck to my principals and didn't sell my beliefs our for a bag of silver and voted "No" !!


Roll on EBA-9



SpannerTwister

[ballhopper]

Voted yes
show me the money
advance payment of a redundancy package
So 40 terminal gingerbeers coming to the base, thats a bumer for those involved. I hope we get the contracts back.

[SpannerTwister]

May be a while before we see any redundancy packages again ...........



SpannerTwister

[Short_Circuit]

I feel the vote will get up from what I hear from around SYD.

What will not get up is the goodwill of the engineers post the buggery campaign..
No good, will come of this, D Cox said in his letter to us,
how right he is.

[Jets on]

I'm with you Short_Circuit. Let's all NEVER forget the attitude of those who have sold their soul.

[Clipped]

Just wanted to get this thread back onto page 1.

Dixon gone, Gregg gone, Cox ?

[hi-speed tape]

Me too clipped. Most folk will now have made their minds up though and the EBA is out in black and white, so it's all possibly comming to an end.
My disapointment lies in a few areas of the EBA, one being the 4 year duration. Should never be more than 3 years unless the company really pull out the stops and wrap the deal up before the current EBA expires, with additional bonuses for the guys' an gals' out on the floor, for doing the right thing during the previous EBA !!!
If the company do not have an EBA 9 ready to roll at the expiry of EBA 8 then the very next day the o/t stops.
We learnt a lot from this last cock up,lets grow on it.
PS: thanks to all who have contributed on this thread even the trolls, I've learnt alot and had many giggles.
Thanks.......Hi-speed.

[domo]

in todays smh

The most interesting was a change in the relationship between Gregg and Dixon. Gregg was vocal in his criticism of the war with maintenance unions and Dixon wanted to take them on for a monumental battle.

anybody know about this?

[griffin one]

If the yes or no vote gets up then its democratic.Everybody had their chance to vote in favour or not. One thing that will never be forgotten is the buggery campaign.Until a manager is in charge that has come from either an engineering background or an ex lame i dont think the boys and girls on the floor will ever show goodwill or loyalty again.
As for the sio lames returning to base just remember half the poor base individuals didnt get a say in where they ended up in 91 when rotation was stopped. Once this EBA is sorted, For the sake of enginnering and the alaea do not climb back onto the high horse and revert to us and them mentality.

[Dockie]

My attitude towards DC and his henchmen will never change. No respect,no trust and always assume that they are lying.

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

I have a feeling that this successful thread will shortly come to a close. Voting results are in.

1552 on voting roll

1298 yes

81 no

94% in favour

6% against

89% of LAMEs took part in ballot.

I think we can take this as a tick of approval from our membership and thank you all for sticking together to get a better EBA outcome. I think it also timely to thank the owners and moderators of PPrune for their co-operation and allowance for what has been a pretty serious industrial dispute to play itself out over this new medium. With our membership spread so far and wide, the campaign could not have taken place the way it did without PPrune. Thanks again.

Steve Purvinas
ALAEA
Federal Secretary

[Slim Dog]

Well done ALAEA

To the people of the ALAEA,
You have done extremely well in these EBA negotiations. All moves that you placed to get us our final outcome worked out with a unanimous vote.
Once again, thank you for your time and your patience. Well done!!

[Dockie]

A big thankyou to Steve and the rest of the executive from the guys at Melbourne Heavy.

[griffin one]

Well done fedsec and crew, Too bad the boys of the old exec didnt have the balls to do what you did.Hopefully there are some ex exec members turning in their sleep after slandering the new exec,After they came to power. More went on behind the scenes then anyone knew,So next time you pass an official just say thanks and be on your way.To sp,wv,pc,and all the rest as M would say TAKE 5 and enjoy some R&R.

[domo]

Sounds like a fat lady is singing

well done all footsoldiers and generals its over in our favour

I believe this battle may have forced dixon out

but only cliffort and dixon will know if this is true

[SpannerTwister]

Moving on

It's official, the Fat Lady has sung !!

Personally I'm a bit disappointed we didn't hang out for the full 5%, but as I said a few posts ago, it's not a bad deal and I think we'll all enjoy our fist-full of dollars !!!

Lest we forget ..............

1) Start our negotiations for EBA-9 well in advance
2) They need our overtime
3) They now know what a LAME is, and how much they need us.....under the current situation. There's something we need to be mindful of.......
4) United we stand....Divided we fall. From this day forward we are No longer Dockies or Line, No longer Cones or Blackhanders, No longer Red or Blue teams, No longer Base or Terminal, we are LAMEs, of our trade, from our sections, from our bases, LAMEs first, categories last.
5) Now we must ensure that "The battle of EBA-8" is never forgotten. We must remember to talk about this often, pass our PIA stories around one to another, ensure the memory of the lessons learnt during EBA-8 are passed on to the younger generations.

Well done to all those who participated, from the Fed Sec, to each individual LAME, and let's not forget all of the other Qantas staff who supported us, the flight-crew and front-counter staff who had to deal with hostile passengers, the bag-snatchers and all the others who worked hard to cope with the delays, to all those who in so many ways supported us, Thanks to you all !!

So, What are you going to do with your back-pay ? Something sensible like straight off the mortgage ? I hope not ...Well, at least not all of it, spend some on yourself and your family !!!

See you back here in a couple of years !!!


SpannerTwister

[1746]

Thanks

Thanks for use of this wonderful medium, PPRUNE and your moderaters!

Thanks to the FED SEC and his crew, for your fantastic efforts! Not only did you manufacture a better result for one and all, but you delivered something more important....UNITY! Even in the darkest moments there was a tangable display of unity and morale has lifted because of it!

Let us never, ever forget the strength we have gained from this unity and thrive to foster it further. No doubt there will be many, many trying times ahead!

Thanks again

[sprocket check]

Well done.

There was an interesting comment from Dixon today on the profit result that went something like:
(not verbose, I heard him on the radio)

"the result for the company would have been much better had we come to an agreement with the LAME's union earlier"

sc