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This is interesting pre war what Russia was after military size wise for Ukraine. Why does one get the feeling they whipped this up last night on a PC and are trying to pass it off as an agreement :oh:
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Nukem Dukem. Now wants to nuke the Dnipro region, the crossing points for arms into Ukraine along with Poland, Germany and Slovakia, I don’t know if to feel disappointed as the U.K. hasn’t been specifically named this time, just mentioned as a NATO country.
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Ukrainian services rescuing people from their roofs in occupied territory, one Russian attempt to respond was rapidly seen off.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11452742)
This is interesting pre war what Russia was after military size wise for Ukraine. Why does one get the feeling they whipped this up last night on a PC and are trying to pass it off as an agreement :oh:
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...C9zdjMxa0uAAAA Russia would wish to have that level of demilitarisation of the Russian federation Military. How things change in a year!, [or since MS DOC writing last night...] |
Originally Posted by petit plateau
(Post 11452625)
Russian losses suggest quite a lot is going on
https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaf...mEEmsrLUZSY5Rl The likely exchange ratio suggests that Ukraine is prioritising hollowing out the opposition in a frugal manner, over simply acquiring land at high cost https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...sive-frontline https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/...icide-mission/ Ru rotary aviation alive and kicking. How to effectively combat it without appropriate air assets? |
Massive explosion/fire which has been burning for hours at Rikove, reportedly an ammunition train unloading at an Ammon depot on the main line between Crimea and Melitopol.
The Air Force confirmed the destruction of an ammunition depot in the Kherson region “You saw the burning ammunition depot. The commander already thanked the boys for their good work. Less ammunition, more fire,” Air Force spokesman Yuriy Ignat said. |
https://english.nv.ua/nation/russian...-50332646.html
Russian units in Kherson Oblast and Crimea, stricken in cholera outbreak, ‘losing combat effectiveness’ An epidemic of cholera is spreading among Russian military personnel in Kherson Oblast and Crimea following a Russian terrorist attack onthe Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant, the Atesh partisan movement reported on Telegram on June 17.…. The latest information reveals that numerous occupiers with suspected cases of cholera are being admitted to military hospitals on a daily basis. “The targeted units along the Kherson direction, positioned along the North-Crimean Canal, are losing their operational capabilities and are being evacuated to the rear for treatment,” the message reads. It is known that several military personnel have already died. The cholera epidemic most likely arose due to the Russians using water from open sources. It is noted that they are facing difficulties in obtaining bottled or purified water. “Naturally, the undermining of the Kakhovka dam has caused colossal damage to the environment, resulting in the outbreak of numerous diseases we have yet to hear about.” “We urge the residents of Kherson Oblast and Crimea to exercise particular caution regarding the water they consume,” Atesh added. Deputy Minister of Health and Chief Sanitary Doctor Ihor Kuzin had previously stated that a cholera outbreak could occur following the Russian invaders’ sabotage of the Kakhovka dam. |
J. Goebbels... wait, D. Peskovs daily dose of vatnik propaganda: De-militarizing of Ukraine largely complete for the UAF is not using their old Soviet era weapons anymore.
So, RU has achieved their goals, does this mean they'll go home now? You couldn't make this up, Hollywood. |
Lots of reports in the press about how the Ukrainian counterattack is being hit hard by Russian attack helicopters as they advance over the flat fields.
They need more organic embedded AD such as Starstreak, though they did take out 2 yesterday. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....63bb9d8e7d.png |
Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11452796)
J. Goebbels... wait, D. Peskovs daily dose of vatnik propaganda: De-militarizing of Ukraine largely complete for the UAF is not using their old Soviet era weapons anymore.
So, RU has achieved their goals, does this mean they'll go home now? You couldn't make this up, Hollywood. Good old Russia, this again sounds like a possible end game play, tell the locals at home the goal to demilitarise Ukraine is about complete so mission accomplished and withdraw. How the work around handing back Crimea will work etc, as it will be a hard one to feed the Russians back home. |
Interesting update on what’s happening at front.
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Good thread to read, seems to think Russia is trying to bleed Ukrainian troops dry before reaching the main defence lines
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Finally one Russian propagandist has had his eyes opened..
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11452905)
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In a word - bollocks…
The paper notes the Ukrainian and Russian starting positions (Russian in italics, Ukrainian in plain text), which are so far apart they’re barely on the same page….. Certainly no agreement, of any kind, because the talks broke up and both sides went home. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11452913)
In a word - bollocks…
The paper notes the Ukrainian and Russian starting positions (Russian in italics, Ukrainian in plain text), which are so far apart they’re barely on the same page….. Certainly no agreement, of any kind, because the talks broke up and both sides went home. The mood music now seems to suggest Putrid is now trying to convince the Russian people and Africa that he has won. How stupid can Putrid get? If you b*gger the water supply don't be surprised if your troops go down with cholera and other nasty diseases. |
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