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NutLoose 21st April 2023 10:04

Ukraine War Thread Part 2
 
Russia’s woes in building new tanks, repairing or even refurbishing old stocks, optics and ball bearings are all normally sourced from the west, so they have a severe shortage now hence the low output in armour etc.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=120a1f8323f2

NutLoose 21st April 2023 10:13

One reason that Ukraine needs to join NATO after the current war.

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NutLoose 21st April 2023 10:32

SAAB is ramping up facilities, supply and would support any Grippen donations to Ukraine if it was ever decided upon.


SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 21st April 2023 20:26


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11423381)
In Dmitri's link, is that a car or a motorbike flying over that row of houses with its headlights still on?

Amazing bit of footage. The delay between impact and actual burst is lengthy, suggests it wasn't a delay fuse but one that wasn't fused and it just cooked off?

The lights look to come from that white car which is parked facing to left of the frame. Its lights are off but the blast probably triggered its alarm which put the lights on. You can just make out twin beams of light as it spirals out of the blast.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....20ae431241.jpg
Parked car
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....55ad07be7c.jpg
twin headlights

NutLoose 21st April 2023 20:42

Knocked out Ukrainian M113

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NutLoose 21st April 2023 20:58

Russian film of the remains of a used switchblade 600


Spunky Monkey 21st April 2023 21:36


Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY (Post 11423785)
Amazing bit of footage. The delay between impact and actual burst is lengthy, suggests it wasn't a delay fuse but one that wasn't fused and it just cooked off?

The lights look to come from that white car which is parked facing to left of the frame. Its lights are off but the blast probably triggered its alarm which put the lights on. You can just make out twin beams of light as it spirals out of the blast.

Amazing!
You actually see the lights of the car swirling up the adjacent building!

mickjoebill 21st April 2023 22:09

Ukrainian 11th Army aviation mixtape
 
Ukrainian 11th army mix tape, mainly helicopters,
click "analysis" on the webpage for details.

https://funker530.com/video/11th-arm...ign=Top10Email

fdr 21st April 2023 23:22


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11422886)
Good news, inflation is falling in the UK, apparently according to Russia, Prostitutes are cheaper meaning your pound can stretch even further.. :p



https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...C99ZKco-EtAAAA

given what ms Skabeyevahaha is prepared to put out for cash, she may have a point there. Imagine the impact to her Crimean dacha renovation fund of the decline in sales of her line of work. [insert sad face here]

NutLoose 21st April 2023 23:45

I assume this is to increase his UAV range of operation, either that or he wishes to be a future contestant in our cap comp, which he may well achieve. I could imagine his tech guys briefing him on their use then pissing themselves laughing when he believed them and left.


NutLoose 21st April 2023 23:56

Latvia to send ALL their Stingers to Ukraine.

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NutLoose 22nd April 2023 00:05

YES…FINALLY, UKRAINE WILL become part of NATO. Post war, the problem I see is Russia will need to go all out plus some if their aim is to prevent that happening now, no deals to renage on later as during that time Ukraine could join.



Winemaker 22nd April 2023 01:00

Re-posted as some of us can't see the links.

Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11423851)
YES…FINALLY, UKRAINE WILL become part of NATO. Post war, the problem I see is Russia will need to go all out plus some if their aim is to prevent that happening now, no deals to renage on later as during that time Ukraine could join.

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/...Cxzdm20eMtAAAA

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/...Cxzdm20eMtAAAA


Winemaker 22nd April 2023 01:08

Ffrom the New York Times today:

The Air National Guardsman accused of leaking classified documents to a small group of gamers had been posting sensitive information months earlier than previously known and to a much larger chat group, according to online postings reviewed by The New York Times.

In February 2022, soon after the invasion of Ukraine, a user profile matching that of Airman Jack Teixeira began posting secret intelligence on the Russian war effort on a previously undisclosed chat group on Discord, a social media platform popular among gamers. The chat group contained about 600 members.

The case against Airman Teixeira, 21, who was arrested on April 13, pertains to the leaking of classified documents on another Discord group of about 50 members, called Thug Shaker Central. His job as an information technology specialist at an Air Force base in Massachusetts gave him top secret clearance.

It is not clear whether authorities are aware of the classified material posted on this additional Discord chat group.

The newly discovered information posted on the larger chat group included details about Russian and Ukrainian casualties, activities of Moscow’s spy agencies and updates on aid being provided to Ukraine. The user claimed to be posting information from the National Security Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency and other intelligence agencies.

The additional information raises questions about why authorities did not discover the leaks sooner, particularly since hundreds more people would have been able to see the posts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/21/u...a-ukraine.html

NutLoose 22nd April 2023 01:50

Brings to mind can those other users who never reported it be charged with conspiracy.. or did they just think it was made up intel.

Imagegear 22nd April 2023 06:09

Now who is threading their way through the Baltic from Moscow to Berlin, in a Rossiya Special Flight Squadron IL96-300 this morning? (FR24)

Or am I being nosey...

IG

melmothtw 22nd April 2023 06:43

Nutloose, why have you started another Ukraine war thread?

ORAC 22nd April 2023 07:02

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius believes limited attacks by Ukraine on Russian territory are an acceptable tactic in repelling Russia's invasion.

In such a war, it is "completely normal for the attacked party to advance into enemy territory, for example to cut off supply routes," he said on the political talk show Maybrit Illner on Thursday evening. "As long as no cities, civilians or civilian areas are attacked , one will necessarily have to accept that."

DuncanDoenitz 22nd April 2023 07:05


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 11423937)
Nutloose, why have you started another Ukraine war thread?

Not Nutloose; the mods have re-booted the thread. (But Nutty's appearance as #1 still appropriate, I feel).

ORAC 22nd April 2023 07:06


Nutloose, why have you started another Ukraine war thread?
He didn’t, the Mod closed the first part due to the length and opened the second. Nutloose just happened to be the first post transferred onto the new part.

https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...l#post11423867

fdr 22nd April 2023 07:43


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11423851)
YES…FINALLY, UKRAINE WILL become part of NATO. Post war, the problem I see is Russia will need to go all out plus some if their aim is to prevent that happening now, no deals to renage on later as during that time Ukraine could join.

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/...Cxzdm20eMtAAAA

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/...Cxzdm20eMtAAAA

Ukraine would make a good NATO member, they know what is important, and how to protect their own territory from an aggressor nation. The expectation that Russia would renege on any agreement is well founded on the history of Russia, they certainly have a way of disregarding agreements that is at least consistent. Russia has itself to blame for becoming a pariah nation, the pavlovian response that characterises Russia's acceptance that corruption is business as usual and their govt is what they deserve.

Now in the spirit of Easter, and Eid, and to give an aero flavour to the tawdry business of keeping up with Voldamorts Fort Fumble ensembles escapades, and to preserve balance...

everyone can have a bad day, like waking up in the morning and thinking it is a good idea to invade your neighbour.

What the problem is....


https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn0ML...d=MDJmNzVkMjY=

fdr 22nd April 2023 07:47


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11423945)
German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius believes limited attacks by Ukraine on Russian territory are an acceptable tactic in repelling Russia's invasion.

In such a war, it is "completely normal for the attacked party to advance into enemy territory, for example to cut off supply routes," he said on the political talk show Maybrit Illner on Thursday evening. "As long as no cities, civilians or civilian areas are attacked , one will necessarily have to accept that."

The only civilians and cities attacked so far have been by Russia, deliberately or as own goals. It takes enthusiasm to try to better the turret toss record which stands at around 235' IIRC, by doing it to a peacefully sleeping Lada in a parking lot in Belgorod. Ordinarily, vandalism is not covered by insurance, so that sucks. :}

Thrust Augmentation 22nd April 2023 12:43


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11423948)
Nutloose just happened to be the first post transferred onto the new part.

And a well deserved 1st spot it is!


Sue Vêtements 22nd April 2023 13:05


Good news, inflation is falling in the UK, apparently according to Russia, Prostitutes are cheaper meaning your pound can stretch even further.. https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif
But aren't all the prostitutes Russian anyway?

Maybe it's a supply and demand thing

NutLoose 22nd April 2023 13:09


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 11423937)
Nutloose, why have you started another Ukraine war thread?

I didn’t, the mods did, read the last post on the first one, my name appears simply because my post was the first one when they split the two threads and transferred some posts over.

ahhh... I see it’s already been remarked on :uhoh:


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NutLoose 22nd April 2023 13:21

Convoy of newly camouflaged Ukrainian Bradley’s formed up on transporters and carrying new fwd facing arrow tactical markings, rather apt ones for a counterattack if I say so myself.


NutLoose 22nd April 2023 13:45

Another discarded cigarette in Moscow.

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NutLoose 22nd April 2023 13:56

The self inflicted bomb that hit Belogrod has uncovered another probably left over from the war for the Russians to deal with :)


NutLoose 22nd April 2023 14:13

Ukraine has signed up for new nuclear power stations from the US, to be up and running 2029… we would still be holding enquiries.

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NutLoose 22nd April 2023 14:31

A man both proud and happy with his new ride.

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Imagegear 22nd April 2023 14:43


Originally Posted by Imagegear (Post 11423927)
Now who is threading their way through the Baltic from Moscow to Berlin, in a Rossiya Special Flight Squadron IL96-300 this morning? (FR24)

Or am I being nosey...

IG

Ahhh, Now I see, Mass expulsion of Russian diplomats by Germany

IG.

ORAC 22nd April 2023 14:58

U.S. hits Russia's "shadow fleet": largest oil carrier in India is deprived of international insurance

The shadow fleet of dozens of tankers, which transports Russian oil to Asia bypassing Western sanctions, was hit by the US sanctions.

India-registered Gatik Ship Management, which became a major carrier of oil from Russia last year, has lost international insurance because of a violation of the "price cap" mechanism, Bloomberg reported, citing a source familiar with the situation.

The Mumbai-headquartered company, which nobody knew about until last year, assembled a fleet of 48 tankers with a combined capacity of more than 30 million barrels and worth $1.4 billion. Almost all of the vessels entered Russian ports and exported oil or oil products, a Vortexa analysis showed.

NutLoose 22nd April 2023 15:01

It sounds like Germany 1939

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ORAC 22nd April 2023 15:22

Wow!!

Chinese ambassador to France stating that ex-Soviet republics have no status in international law as sovereign nations.

That should lead to the ambassadors in the Baltic states, and elsewhere, being invited to explain themselves…


Less Hair 22nd April 2023 15:33

How about the UN charter? Does China still intend to respect it?

ORAC 22nd April 2023 15:50

Copy of Nutloose video with added subtitles.


Buster Hyman 22nd April 2023 16:09


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11424199)
Chinese ambassador to France stating that ex-Soviet republics have no status in international law as sovereign nations.

Yet they have Embassies there. :rolleyes:

[email protected] 22nd April 2023 16:17


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11424209)
Copy of Nutloose video with added subtitles.

A policy of isolationism - don't think many want to be their friends now anyway.

NutLoose 22nd April 2023 16:26

Prigozhin Is finally coming to a realisation how truly fu**ed the Russian army around him is. It’s as if he is coming to terms with the real truth of it all.


NutLoose 22nd April 2023 16:32

This is one of the most incredible things I have seen in this whole !!!!!show.


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