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NutLoose 25th June 2023 03:57

That crossed my mind too, let us hope it isn’t, the other thought was it to subtly replace Lukashenko and take control of Belarus.
One other scenario has been mentioned and that was a power struggle between Shogi and Geronimo against Putin, Putin needed an excuse to get rid off them and this was the ploy to do it. Time will tell.


Meanwhile, some good news on the Ukrainian front.


NutLoose 25th June 2023 04:06

Another bridge dropped hampering Russian movements.


NutLoose 25th June 2023 05:08

Taking out a Russian observation post in Bakhmut.

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NutLoose 25th June 2023 05:14

Removing Russian grads from the war.

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NutLoose 25th June 2023 05:18

Unverified reports yet but Shoigu may have been arrested.


NutLoose 25th June 2023 05:29

In war you cannot hide, they will find you and identify you.

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NutLoose 25th June 2023 05:53

I am not sure if this is a major advance or not.



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NutLoose 25th June 2023 05:58

More on that.


Fighters of the 1st Mechanised Battalion of the 3rd Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completely defeated the 3rd Battalion of the 57th Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade of the Russian Federation and cleared the western bank of the Siverskyi Donets – Donbas canal from Russians on the Bakhmut front.

Source: Andrii Biletskyi, the commander of the 3rd Assault Brigade, in a video address

Quote: "Today, the 3rd Assault Brigade, the 1st Mechanised Battalion carried out offensive operations, and the 3rd Battalion of the 57th Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade of the Russian Federation was defeated. This battalion ceased to exist as an organised military force. More than 30 killed enemies, dozens of prisoners, half a hundred wounded...

The western bank of the Siverskyi Donets – Donbas channel has been completely cleared of the enemy. The bridgehead no longer exists on the west bank."
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https://news.yahoo.com/3rd-assault-b...193828948.html

NutLoose 25th June 2023 06:02

That appears to be a fair way past Bakhmut.

ORAC 25th June 2023 07:11

Just to catch up, Russia lost 7 aircraft yesterday to blue on blue…


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....223e4bb42f.png

ORAC 25th June 2023 07:24

Yesterday:

"In the temporarily occupied Dniprorudny of the Zaporizhzhia region, partisans blew up the bridge through which the Russian invaders were transporting weapons and heavy equipment" - said the Colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Anatoly Shtefan

NutLoose 25th June 2023 09:11


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11456541)
Yesterday:

"In the temporarily occupied Dniprorudny of the Zaporizhzhia region, partisans blew up the bridge through which the Russian invaders were transporting weapons and heavy equipment" - said the Colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Anatoly Shtefan

Already mentioned.

MODS

Just a thank you from me on how you have handled the insurrection and moved the posts, I realise it will have caused you quite a bit of work. It was just one of those events that overlapped threads being a military manoeuvre but involving politics. At least the world is a bit more stable again this morning… I hope.

NL

Tartiflette Fan 25th June 2023 09:24


Originally Posted by SVK (Post 11456584)
PD -

My view is that Prigozhin wants power and Putin needs success on the battlefield. This deal allows Wagner to control the logistics / command hub at Rostov (though not the city as a whole) and hopefully ensure the SMO is conducted better. It also gives Wagner access to more and better supplies.

After a suitable period of time (to reduce suspicion) Lukashenko will succumb to his long illness and in the interim period Prigozhin will take over as Steward of Belarus.

That is until it is his turn to fall out of a window. Make no mistake, as long as Prigozhin remains alive, he is the person that got concessions out of Putin and made Putin look weak. That is unforgivable from a Russian leadership point of view.

I'm unsure how you reach that conclusion ( my knowledge also only based on news reports ).AFAIK Wagner has withdrawn fully from Rostov: there has been no mention of their retaining control of the H.Q. Since there has also been no mention of Shoigu and Gerasimov being removed from their positions, this would also seem an impossible and unsustainable mixing of responsibilities. The published agreement also refers to the majority of Wagner forces returning to Africa: I see that as Putin's desire to de-fang Prighozin, whereas putting them all in Byelorussia, close to Kiev, would have given Prig. the possibility of attempting a heroic attack on the enemy and once again showing him to be the saviour of the Motherland and Putin to be a weak , little twerp.

NutLoose 25th June 2023 09:31

More Gepards coming :) 45 more by the end of the year, they already have 34.

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NutLoose 25th June 2023 09:35

Not happy chappies. I don’t think I would have broadcast anything or at least not without masks on.


NutLoose 25th June 2023 09:38

RIP, another fallen Ukrainian, strange funeral though.


NutLoose 25th June 2023 09:45

So new Russian Minister of Defence and head of Army? If true the Shoigu and Geronimo are gone. So the little show makes sense to aid in their removal.

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Beamr 25th June 2023 12:56

Trench warfare south of Bakhmut. Noteworthy is the amount of communication enabling real team work and success.



Winemaker 25th June 2023 13:45


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11456497)
Another bridge dropped hampering Russian movements.



https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...CxpZXEtrYuAAAA

Nutty, that bridge drop doesn't look like war activity, it looks like a professional commercial demolition that took a great deal of time to rig.

ORAC 25th June 2023 15:23

​​​​​​​"Russia has completed preparations for blowing up the Zaporizhzhia NPP. The plan of the terrorist attack has already been approved - the only thing missing is the order to carry it out" - the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanov


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