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Video Mixdown 20th June 2023 09:06


Originally Posted by skridlov (Post 11453824)
African politicians' main interest is in soliciting "dash".

I'm sure Putin is happy to provide it if they say nice things about him.
I suspect that being shunned and isolated by world leaders probably angers him more than losing thousands of his troops. He visibly loved strutting around at summits, having presidents, prime ministers and the world's press waiting in line to meet him and hanging on his every word. Maybe paying a few African leaders to provide some of that for his ego seems worth it to him.
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NutLoose 20th June 2023 09:41

Sweet film, Aviation content plus.. Music choices are improving too.


NutLoose 20th June 2023 09:46

Interesting, the censors have blurred out the weapon carriage.





fdr 20th June 2023 12:09


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11453610)
Ok, the trench taking operations posted above, you see a giinger bearded guy getting demilitarised at the end, it turns out the Ukrainians may have shot a lot of Semen. :p
He was a Russian terrorist and war reporter that used to have a Telegram channel….. so sad, never mind.
https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1...C9rY2j968uAAAA

Looking at the video, if this is wargonzo, he has not got his watch on his left hand... looks irregular enough with the running shoes to be him, but he always has his big strap on his left hand. Whoever it was, they were lights out in less than 1 second from being aware there was someone else out there inviting them to vacate Ukraine.

The Russians need to work on their surrendering, the first 3 didn't have rifles in their hands, but had their fists closed, could easily have been grenades. The 4th guy, his AK was ready to fire, his finger was at the trigger, not likely to be a surrender.

fdr 20th June 2023 13:12


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 11453777)
Interesting analysis of the impact of the Rykove ammunition depot strike. Hope it's correct:
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/sta...71803987058688


Telenko may be right on his analysis, although across the theater of operations of the RF invaders, there would be multiple locations with ammunition stores. Rykove is unlikely to be the primary or sole dump. 75km to the NE is Melitopol... with a rather large depot right beside the main rail line. With Rykove, and the observed disregard of any safety standards by the RF hired help, it is not certain that a standoff weapon was required or even utilised, this could still have been an irritated local tossing a Molotov cocktail into the sorry mess that is RF logistic practices.

Any long range fire capability that is removed from the hands of the invaders is a good thing, the locals of Rykove will need some hearing aids in the future though.

Ukraine has held off dropping the Kerch bridge, and that is understandable on one side, the road could be kept open to permit the invaders to leave the premises, but the rail bridge would seem to be way past it's retirement date, and that would not alter the ability for a general withdrawal of troops. dropping the arch and rail into the water would be a fraction of the damage that RF have made of Ukraine, even just this month.

Winemaker 20th June 2023 13:57


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 11453777)
Interesting analysis of the impact of the Rykove ammunition depot strike. Hope it's correct:
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/sta...71803987058688

Re-posted to make the link visible.

NutLoose 20th June 2023 14:12

Someone needs to drop him an email and tell him he has his 16 Squadron patch on upside down. :p


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7cd66e6f4d.png

NutLoose 20th June 2023 14:25

Hahaha.... he...ermmm haven't they been trying to do that for hmmmm a year plus to nil effect?.



NutLoose 20th June 2023 14:29

:)


NutLoose 20th June 2023 14:34

Those two on the bus giving some Russian it in Mariupol are now having to apologise on TV...I somehow doubt people will believe the apology over their true feelings.


NutLoose 20th June 2023 14:39

I think he should allocate some of that budget to buying condoms.


Over 200 million rubles (about $2,375 million) will be spent on security for Kadyrov and his family in 2023. This is a record number in the past five years.

Beamr 20th June 2023 19:47

Ukrainian military intelligence says the Zaporizhzhia NPP cooling system has been mined by the Z-team.



fdr 20th June 2023 22:12


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11454147)
Ukrainian military intelligence says the Zaporizhzhia NPP cooling system has been mined by the Z-team.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...08637933694977


The Bulletin report seems optimistic in part, as it is assuming that "voluntary" is tolerating a certain increase in cancer deaths and deaths from genetic diseases. That is not tolerable for the people of Turkey or Romania.

Deliberately setting explosives within a NPP is a nuclear terrorist act...
Deliberately setting explosives within a NPP is a nuclear terrorist act...

Deliberately setting explosives within a NPP is a nuclear terrorist act...

what does it take for the seat warmers at the UN to actually abide by their charter.

Russia is a Terrorist State.

ZNPP is an existential threat to NATO countries as well as Ukraine, Souther Russia, the "Stans and Western China.

In every scenario of destruction of the ZNPP, the Black Sea will become a nuclear contaminated pond, the Med will as well, and those countries relying on grain from the Ukraine and Russia will have famine conditions. All thanks to the fact that the UN cannot bother to read and apply their own charter. There are no winners in a nuclear catastrophe.

BlankBox 20th June 2023 22:20

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8d06271116.png

Now I know where crop circles com from...

ORAC 20th June 2023 22:51

Left shoe…

The Pentagon did a recalculation of the cost for military aid to Ukraine in 2022 & 2023 and found out it overestimated the cost of the provided military aid by $6.2 billion. This means the US can allocate this amount for additional military aid this fiscal year.

Right shoe….

​​​​​​​US to announce new military aid package for Ukraine tomorrow - Secretary of State Anthony Blinken
“President Biden said that we will support Ukraine for as long as it takes ... We will continue to fulfill this obligation, including with the help of a strong new US aid package, which I will be able to announce tomorrow,” Blinken said at a briefing with the Foreign Minister Great Britain by James Cleverley.

NutLoose 20th June 2023 22:52

Stunningdawn and if it wasn’t so tragic the events being played out in front of our eyes it would be surreal.




ORAC 21st June 2023 05:08

The Polish & Slovak Mig-29's are now in front line Ukrainian PSU service defending Ukrainian air space.

These fighters help replace losses, but do not provide the increased capabilities needed from 4th Generation Western jets.

Ukrainian Air Defense 🧵

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...045500420.html
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ORAC 21st June 2023 06:04

​​​​​​​Terrorist Girkin-Strelkov: Russia has no chance to win, Putin and the higher ranks of Russian leadership are delusional. Russia lost all initiative on the frontlines.

ORAC 21st June 2023 06:22

​​​​​​​Kakhovka reservoir turned into a desert.

ORAC 21st June 2023 07:25

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...on-of-ukraine/
Western companies are still financing the Russian invasion of Ukraine

Despite tremendous business interest in Ukraine’s reconstruction and development, a large number of Western companies continue to undermine Kyiv’s efforts by contributing to the Kremlin’s war chest. This ongoing corporate complicity must be stopped if Ukraine’s meaningful recovery is to happen any time soon.

The recent destruction of the Kakhovka dam is one of over 90,000 suspected Russian war crimes in Ukraine. Clearly, no reconstruction of Ukraine can succeed unless Russia is completely deprived of the resources to continue its invasion. The international community cannot have a meaningful conversation on recovery or reconstruction unless international companies that continue to feed Putin’s war chest cease their business operations in Russia entirely.

When Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine first began in February 2022, some Western businesses demonstrated swift and early exits from the Russian market, putting values over profit. While these often high profile departures generated a lot of media coverage, in reality the majority of Western firms have chosen to remain in Russia.

According to data from the Kyiv School of Economics (KSE), out of 1,361 Western companies with Russian subsidiaries at the start of the full-scale invasion, only 241 (17%) have completely exited Russia. The remaining Western companies generated $136 billion in revenues during 2022, thus helping the Kremlin to finance the war in Ukraine.

Perhaps even more staggering than these numbers are the excuses used by the leadership of Western multinationals to justify their continued presence in Russia. The most common justifications for persisting with “business as usual” in Putin’s Russia primarily revolve around the provision of essential goods. This argument is widely cited despite the fact that it is rarely supported by the nature of the businesses in question.

It should be crystal clear by now: All western companies that have not left the Russian market since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine began almost seventeen months ago are complicit in the Putin regime’s war crimes and crimes against humanity. In a very real sense, Western businesses that refuse to leave Russia are silent enablers of Putin’s invasion. Any meaningful conversation about Ukraine’s recovery and reconstruction should start by shedding a bright light on the issue of corporate complicity.…


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