Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11336317)
More on the previous report if the withdrawal of Russian forces from Crimea….
https://censor.net/en/video_news/338...ia_videophotos Russians massively transfer military equipment from occupied Crimea to mainland - media. VIDEO&PHOTOS In the occupied Crimea, a lively movement of columns of Russian military equipment was recorded from the occupied Kherson region in the direction of the Kerch bridge…. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11336352)
Excellent thread on remaining Russian ASM/SSM/IRBM stocks.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...889127936.html |
Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
(Post 11336452)
If the numbers in this thread are reliable it sadly looks like the rain of precision missiles falling on the beleaguered people of Ukraine doesn’t have to stop any day soon even if stocks have been much depleted. Of course it may be that some of the remaining stock has been ‘converted’ into yachts and palaces. We can hope.
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Armenia just stuck the knife into Russia and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) :}
They got their wish So the fact the CSTO is no more there are unhappy people lol. More on the reasoning behind it. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...1860c667b2d30f That sledge hammer they sent to the EU, they should chop the head off it and send it back... .. |
Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11336469)
the thing is that Russia can't empty their stocks to Ukraine. They really need to have stocks to keep up deterrence and readiness. In essence, they should be decreasing their usage of missiles very sharply very soon.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11336472)
That sledge hammer they sent to the EU, they should chop the head off it and send it back...
It would have to be a big box |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11336472)
Armenia just stuck the knife into Russia and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) :}
.. That sledge hammer they sent to the EU, they should chop the head off it and send it back... |
Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
(Post 11336519)
Doesn’t that assume some rational logic in their military decision making? Not too much evidence of that in their actions over the last 9 months which seem to have resulted in the destruction of a very high proportion of their military resources.
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Originally Posted by henra
(Post 11336538)
That is an interesting (and for Putin most critical one) development. First signs of the end of what was the "Russian Empire". And this after first rumours/signs of Kazakhstan starting to untie the ropes to Russia...
That move by Prigozhin/Russia was so desperate/childish as it would get in the first place. I like the idea, cutting it to slices/chopping it and handing it back, though. You have to talk to children in a way that children do understand.... Or send it to Zelensky and get him and his workforce to use it in publicity photos online using it to repair damaged buildings or even knocking in tent pegs etc, those will soon get back to Russia, showing both EU support by donating it and Ukrainain's using the Russians attempt as showing it's might in a practical everyday lowly use.. .. |
Originally Posted by henra
(Post 11336538)
That is an interesting (and for Putin most critical one) development. First signs of the end of what was the "Russian Empire". And this after first rumours/signs of Kazakhstan starting to untie the ropes to Russia...
That move by Prigozhin/Russia was so desperate/childish as it would get in the first place. I like the idea, cutting it to slices/chopping it and handing it back, though. You have to talk to children in a way that children do understand.... Grotesque, the product of a warped, evil failed state. |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11336559)
I have seen nothing of the original disgusting gesture in the media. Have I missed it, or is such crass, offensive and threatening behaviour by Putin now seen as the norm?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...eu/ar-AA14vaZp |
The best response to Prigozhin would be to send him a child's pacifier!
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Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
(Post 11336452)
If the numbers in this thread are reliable it sadly looks like the rain of precision missiles falling on the beleaguered people of Ukraine doesn’t have to stop any day soon even if stocks have been much depleted. Of course it may be that some of the remaining stock has been ‘converted’ into yachts and palaces. We can hope.
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Yevgeny Fedorov, State Duma deputy from the United Russia party, called Armenia an "illegal state". These people are so detached from reality its laughable. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11336607)
Given these are the only weapons Russia is really employing to any effect, I wouldn't be surprised if they directed the majority of the arms industry to contribute to their production. Unfortunately they've found a chink in Ukraine's armour and are exploiting it to the full.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11336626)
You would think something as simple as a net type curtain slung between some scaffolding towers would protect the substations, the suicide drones are flying from one direction so you can position the screen to cover that direction and the curtain should catch the drone in its dive before it strikes the target. They all seem to rely on basic GPS and they must have a set glidepath to the target, so the angle should be able to be worked out and a screen erected accordingly.
I'd wager this has set in motion lots of 'studies' here in the west. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11336648)
Its bizarre because almost every country on Earth would be vulnerable to such attacks. Its like no military planner ever considered that their power grid would be make such an obvious target.
I'd wager this has set in motion lots of 'studies' here in the west. I'd also wager that there are a lot of threat assessments regarding Russia that have been hastily re-written over the past few months. I've been well out of the loop for twelve years, but the last time I went to a RUSI conference that was discussing the potential threats Russia posed (would have been around 2008 or 2009) the capability of their air force and land forces were definitely considered to be significantly better than has been borne out by the war in Ukraine. Medium range missiles seem to be just about the only threat that might have been assessed reasonably accurately, I think. The impression I have is that we (as in the West) paid too much heed to weapon and platform technical capability, and far too little heed to Russia's ability to effectively deploy their military capability. Ukraine has undoubtedly performed massively better than most in the West would have expected, but there seems little doubt that this has been aided by the incompetence of even some supposedly highly capable Russian forces (like the air assault force at Hostomel). Clearly, Russian logistic support seems to be poor, bordering on non-existent in some areas, which has aided and abetted Ukrainian forces. I'd also question the decision made by Russia to initiate this war with a ground forces attack with limited top cover. The tactics seem to have been deeply flawed, and very different to those that I think Western countries might adopt. Before starting the ground forces attack against Iraq, for example, there was the "shock and awe" air and missile attack that both knocked out a fair bit of Iraq's air defences and must have played a significant part in putting the fear of god into their ground forces. We didn't see much of that from Russia at the beginning of this war, yet from what's been happening over the past few weeks it seems clear that Russia had the capability to do that. I believe that the study of this war is going to be a set piece in military colleges around the world for years to come. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11336648)
Its bizarre because almost every country on Earth would be vulnerable to such attacks. Its like no military planner ever considered that their power grid would be make such an obvious target.
I'd wager this has set in motion lots of 'studies' here in the west. |
Originally Posted by GlobalNav
(Post 11336669)
The apparent commitment not to allow attacks on Russian territory should be reassessed. Wouldn’t the Russian power grid be at least as vulnerable?
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11336648)
Its bizarre because almost every country on Earth would be vulnerable to such attacks. Its like no military planner ever considered that their power grid would be make such an obvious target.
I'd wager this has set in motion lots of 'studies' here in the west. Already on the way tank wise according to this, though I cannot fathom what the heck the navy have to do with it.. pun intended ;) https://worldnewsera.com/news/uk/roy...-x-ray-vision/ Another thought re the substations, stack freight containers around them to form a wall. |
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